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| Jan-04-12 | | Blunderdome: BTW, if you are choosing not to acknowledge the existence of the 3-1 scoring system, I fully support you. |
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| Jan-04-12 | | matebay: Hi Boss,
Over the CG entry in wikipedia, our members are indicated as over 156,000. Surely there is nothing more detached from the truth. Also, most of the features mentioned neither reflect current trends nor most recent state of the art improvements as discussed in this chessforum for example. Time for a drastic revision to reflect the true state of current affairs. The old entry has outlived its significance and purpose. |
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Jan-04-12
 | | tpstar: As before, all suggestions for improving and updating the Wikipedia entry should be posted on my chessforum. Constructive criticism must be appropriate and tasteful, with no random swipes at the group's writing skills or any individual kibitzer. Then we should have Susan Polgar review it at the end before it gets posted. We should also consider listing <Wesley So> as a former member of the group, explaining to the chess world why he left. Any ideas for how to word this paragraph are welcome! |
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| Jan-04-12 | | matebay: <tpstar: As before, all suggestions for improving and updating the Wikipedia entry should be posted on my chessforum. > Please show me any grant of authority from CG (a memo, policy declaration or power of attorney) so that I may oblige. In the absence thereof, I will continue to refer my concerns with my boss, Daniel Freeman. |
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Jan-04-12
| | tpstar: The first page of my chessforum contains three entries by the site on how they would officially handle the Wikipedia entry. Page 8 of my chessforum still has those 28 personal attacks in a row (the standing site record set by <SugarDom>) but we shouldn't put that in our updated version. |
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| Jan-04-12 | | voratco: Wikipedia is not owned by CG or tpstar. Tpstar does not have the final say on what goes in the entry. Anybody who has internet connection can update the entry without malicious intent. Anything in question can be challenged. |
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| Jan-04-12 | | matebay: Sorry to disappoint you <tpstar> but <voratco> is right. No need to go to a church when you can go straight to heaven. The bible never mention the need of any priest to lay your confession upon. Just pray straight to the Father... <Voratco> speaks the truth. <Tpstar> attempt of placing himself in dominion over others timely thwarted. What is Wikipedia?
Click "Edit" to change an article
Editing tutorial for Wikipedia
Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia, written collaboratively by the people who use it. It is a special type of website designed to make collaboration easy, called a wiki. <Many people are constantly improving Wikipedia, making thousands of changes per hour.> All of these changes are recorded in article histories and recent changes. For a more detailed account of the project, see About Wikipedia. <How you can contribute
Don't be afraid to edit – anyone can edit almost every page, and we are encouraged to be bold! Find something that can be improved and make it better—for example, spelling, grammar, rewriting for readability, adding content, or removing non-constructive edits. If you wish to add new facts, please try to provide references so they may be verified, or suggest them on the article's discussion page. Changes to controversial topics and Wikipedia's main pages should usually be discussed first.
Remember – you can't break Wikipedia; all edits can be reversed, fixed or improved later. Wikipedia is allowed to be imperfect. So go ahead, edit an article and help make Wikipedia the best information source on the Internet!> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipe... |
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Jan-04-12
 | | OhioChessFan: <tps: Constructive criticism must be appropriate and tasteful, with no random swipes at the group's writing skills or any individual kibitzer. > Excuse me, who made you the arbiter of that? |
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Jan-04-12
| | tpstar: <matebay> You just posted this on the Sulsol Page: "There are over <15,600> registered members (of which about 13 percent have visited over the last three months), with <250> new members per month.[1] At any time, several hundred people are actively using the site.[3] Group demographics from a 2005 Questionnaire: 98 percent male, 50 percent from North America, average rating 1600-1800 with one third unrated.[6] Members post messages under a Username handle, which may be their real identity or else an anonymous handle. Active and prominent ChessGames.com members include former Women's World Champion Susan Polgar. Former members include former World Championship candidate Nigel Short, prolific authors Raymond Keene and Eric Schiller, past USCF President GM Maxim Dlugy,IM Lawrence Day, WGM Natalia Pogonina and WGM Yelena Dembo." Wikipedia is not to be used for publishing such false statements. <Nigel Short> is not a former member since he just posted today, and <Raymond Keene> is not a former member since he just posted last month. When are you going to stop lying? |
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| Jan-04-12 | | matebay: As it is, <tpstar> has done a poor job. Take it from wiki itself:
<This article does not cite any references or sources. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (April 2011)> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChessG...
No reference or sources! Contents all close to fabrication just like the 156,000 alleged membership population. <tpstar>'s nomination as the best informed kibitzer is hereby contested. His chances to get the plum reduced to nil. |
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| Jan-04-12 | | voratco: <<tpstar>'s nomination as the best informed kibitzer is hereby contested. His chances to get the plum reduced to nil.> I second the motion.
In as much as tpstar is here everyday, mocking the Carlsen fans, So fans, Nakamura fans, he should just channel his energy fixing the wiki entry. That would even make him an inch closer to his highness. |
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| Jan-04-12 | | matebay: <Excuse me, who made you the arbiter of that?> No one. He just made that up. |
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| Jan-04-12 | | matebay: <Nigel Short> is not a former member since he just posted today, and <Raymond Keene> is not a former member since he just posted last month. Kindly show the link to the post. Thank you. |
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Jan-04-12
| | tpstar: <matebay> Nigel Short Raymond Keene
Now you apologize to the group for trying to sabotage the Wikipedia entry, and you apologize to the site for lying. |
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| Jan-04-12 | | voratco: <Maybe the following amendment is in order:> I am not sure what "maybe" means but looking at the dictionary, it clearly means..... Definitions of maybe (adv)
may·be [ máybee ] Audio player
perhaps: expresses uncertainty
neither yes nor no: used to give a response that is neither yes nor no
introduces suggestions: used to introduce advice or suggestions I do not see sabotage or lying anywhere. Care to point where you got your meaning? |
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| Jan-04-12 | | hatsis: Caution: Spin doctor at work. |
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| Jan-04-12 | | matebay: <tpstar: <matebay> Nigel Short
Raymond Keene
Now you apologize to the group for trying to sabotage the Wikipedia entry, and you apologize to the site for lying.> As <voratco> correctly pointed out, mine was a suggestion ---subject to scrutiny and correction...which you did. So no need for any apology. But I realized that you keep yourself abreast of current events (i.e. the posting of prominent members)...so I withdraw my vehement opposition to your nomination for the best informative kibitzer...This I do in the interest of justice...But please keep in mind that most informative does not mean most sage or correct and upright in disposition. Nonetheless, you are up to a difficult task for I have also nominated LMAJ for the category...may the best man win. |
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Jan-04-12
| | tpstar: <matebay> You also ratcheted down the numbers, because you were trying to hurt the site. Apologize immediately. You brave Barangay warriors, hiding behind your handles. While I'm around, looks like you'll keep hiding. |
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| Jan-04-12 | | matebay: <You also ratcheted down the numbers, because you were trying to hurt the site. Apologize immediately.> Reveal your sources of the 156,000 membership population first. Did you conduct a census? And also the 2500 new memberships per month. Show that these figures were not concocted out of thin air. Then I will gladly apologize. |
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| Jan-04-12 | | benjinathan: Will you people just shut the hell up. |
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Jan-04-12
 | | Domdaniel: <matebay> -- < the best informative kibitzer> There is no such Caissar category. It's *best informed*. Do you grasp the difference? A person might be well informed, but only speak occasionally. Or they could rattle on vacantly ad nauseam.
I find it amusing that you keep picking fights with people who have forgotten more than you'll ever know. |
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| Jan-04-12 | | Running Hand: Quite. Er, who? |
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Jan-04-12
| | OhioChessFan: <matebay: Reveal your sources of the 156,000 membership population first. > According to Chessgames.com on this page, ChessGames.com Statistics Page # of registered users: 172,665
I am certain they can back that number up. Of course there are doubles and spoof accounts and sock puppets and all, but that many have registered. While I agree about some issues you've raised here, there is simply no way this site would publically advertise that number if it wasn't true. |
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| Jan-04-12 | | voratco: These numbers can be challenged according to wikipedia due to the fact that: Base articles on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. Self-published or questionable sources as sources on themselves Self-published and questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves, usually in articles about themselves or their activities, without the requirement in the case of self-published sources that they be published experts in the field, so long as: 1. the material is not unduly self-serving;
2. it does not involve claims about third parties;
3. it does not involve claims about events not directly related to the source;
4. there is no reasonable doubt as to its authenticity;
5. the article is not based primarily on such sources. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipe... I am not questioning the validity of the number of members but it's quite outdated as pointed out by OCF. I am just pointing it out so tpstar can do his homework and go fix the entry to defy any odds of scrutiny. Also sabotage is out of the question because changes can easily be reverted back to the original synopsis, meaning anyone can change the contents but with a click of a mouse can be within the original state. I don't think any fool will try to do just that. Unless your name is.... |
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Jan-04-12
 | | Annie K.: <cg> any chance of seeing to the ChessBookie payoffs, sometime soon, please? ;) |
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