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Jun-15-12
 | | chessgames.com: <Annie> That's a delightful story. It's sad but not entirely surprising that the actual chess content got mangled on the cutting room floor. It reminds me a little of the story from Casablanca, where Humphrey Bogart personally set up a position from a correspondence game he was playing, only to see a stage-hand knock over the pieces and replace them on ridiculous squares. Anyhow assuming Jovanovic-Manzardo is a legitimate game then sure, it deserves inclusion, even if the legend of it being Silman's inspiration is apocryphal. It would make a cute daily puzzle if nothing else. Whether or not being the chess-consultant for a Harry Potter movie is worthy of including in Silman's bio: we'll leave that to the biographers to decide. |
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Jun-15-12
 | | Annie K.: <It reminds me a little of the story from Casablanca, where Humphrey Bogart personally set up a position from a correspondence game he was playing, only to see a stage-hand knock over the pieces and replace them on ridiculous squares.> Ouch... :\
The game seems legit, I just found it in the 365chess.com database:
http://www.365chess.com/game.php?gi...
I reckon that link is worth a bio mention, as I have posted it, years ago, to a mostly lay audience, and it got quite enthusiastic responses. Anything that can interest people in chess, without involving political rants, drunk GMs fighting, or, um, toilets... can't be bad! :D OK, off to do both then. :) |
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Jun-15-12
 | | chessgames.com: Jovanovic vs B Manzardo, 1967 ... expect it as a puzzle some day :-) |
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Jun-15-12
 | | Annie K.: ...and I see you also merged the two Manzardo player profiles already. That was FAST! :D |
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Jun-15-12
 | | chessgames.com: CG Librarian is so fast she corrects things before you're done typing the slip :) |
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Jun-15-12
 | | OhioChessFan: Here's a book the Librarian recommended:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images... |
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Jun-15-12
 | | Annie K.: Impressive! :D
(Note to self: type slips faster.) ;)
<FIDE player card [...] Anyhow, we'll figure something out. It's a very important link and perhaps should get higher placement than the "let-me-google-that-for-you link"> I think it (just the 'FIDE player card' link) would look good right under the 'Last published FIDE rating' line. :) |
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| Jun-16-12 | | Open Defence: great! so if the store carries the set I can even set up the position once i get it! :-D |
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Jun-16-12
 | | chessgames.com: <I think it (just the 'FIDE player card' link) would look good right under the 'Last published FIDE rating' line. :)> That's a very good idea. |
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Jun-16-12
 | | chessgames.com: Nobody enquired about yesterday's mysterious quote of the day: <Ain't nothin' simple when you're doin' it for real.> -- William "gus" Baird Too bad we didn't slate it for today as it would have gone perfectly with our live game today McShane vs Kramnik, 2012. The story is, that "gus" Baird was Daniel Freeman's favorite college professor at Georgia Tech. His experience as a computer technician for the military made him part drill sergeant, part computer hacker, and pure class. He used to tell the freshmen how we had it so easy with our hard drives and compilers, and how in his day you'd program in assembler on punch cards, or even write raw machine code in hexadecimal off the top of their heads. The name "gus" was never capitalized, because it was short for Augustus, in which the "g" is lowercase. (You know what a big-deal those Unix guys make over case sensitivity.) I was sad to learn that gus passed away in the early 1990s but his legacy at Georgia Tech will live forever. |
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Jun-16-12
 | | Annie K.: <You know what a big-deal those Unix guys make over case sensitivity> Heh! That quote is a nice way to commemorate him. :)
<Deffi> what exactly *is* a "Harry Potter chess set"? That might help, as I, for one, have no idea... |
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Jun-16-12
 | | chancho: <Annie> http://www.amazon.com/Harry-Potter-... |
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| Jun-16-12 | | hms123: <Annie>
Here are some examples:
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/toy... http://www.amazon.com/Harry-Potter-... They seem to be rife on the ground. |
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Jun-16-12
 | | Annie K.: Thanks, guys. :) I doubt I'd want to actually play with one of those sets, but I suppose they are kinda cute, at least for decorative purposes, and/or play, if one gets used to them. Well, anything to get kids interested in chess... ;) |
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| Jun-16-12 | | twinlark: <chessgames.com: <I think it (just the 'FIDE player card' link) would look good right under the 'Last published FIDE rating' line. :)> That's a very good idea.> It's still a good idea...erm...but "FIDE.com player card"(?) |
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| Jun-16-12 | | Blunderdome: <CG> Thought I had heard that Bogart has set up a position from the Immortal Game -- anyone know for sure which it is? |
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Jun-16-12
 | | chessgames.com: There's some discussion of that subject on the Humphrey Bogart page. |
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Jun-17-12
 | | Stonehenge: I've tried to update two player's pages with their FIDE cards. The first one didn't show his FIDE card *at all* and the second one showed <FIDE.com player card> after <Last FIDE rating>. |
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Jun-17-12
 | | chessgames.com: <Stonehenge> We're playing around a little bit with the display of the FIDE link. Now that we've moved the location of the FIDE link the response time is no longer guaranteed to be instantaneous (but in some cases it is.) We didn't want to say anything about this change because this too may change in the near future. In short, we're playing around with different ways of doing this. Fear not that your information was entered in vain: if you entered the FIDE # we have that info and it will be used and displayed, sooner or later. |
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Jun-17-12
 | | Stonehenge: Thank you :) |
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| Jun-18-12 | | Benzol: <We're playing around a little bit with the display of the FIDE link. Now that we've moved the location of the FIDE link the response time is no longer guaranteed to be instantaneous (but in some cases it is.) We didn't want to say anything about this change because this too may change in the near future. In short, we're playing around with different ways of doing this.
Fear not that your information was entered in vain: if you entered the FIDE # we have that info and it will be used and displayed, sooner or later
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As a biographer I can see the FIDE number at the bottom of the page but what about those people who aren't? I know that I uploaded a fair number ( no pun intended ) of FIDE numbers for New Zealand players and they were visible for kibitzers to click onto. Now they've just disappeared. How do kibitzers find them now? A good example is our own <Richard Taylor>. |
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Jun-18-12
 | | chessgames.com: <Benzol> I think I understand what you are saying but please understand that we are not removing the FIDE links, it's just that as of a few days back a *delay* was introduced. This delay is already well known to the super-admins like the CG Librarian. For example, when she moves some games from one Ivanov to another, the win percentage does not change instantly. Likewise, after Magnus's win today his statistics aren't instantly changed. Those headers are computed and cached away by a program that runs in the wee-hours of the morning. If you come back tomorrow you'll see that his stats may have changed a bit, but it's not instant. The reason to want to do it this way is one of software efficiency considerations: so that when people pull up Carlsen's page the software doesn't have to compute his favorite openings for the millionth time that day. To make matters more complex, we also have a concept of "minor players" vs "major players" which simply has to do with the number of games. I want to stress it has nothing to do with how good or poor of a player they were--for example, "NN" is a major player, while Captain Evans is a "minor" player. That doesn't mean Captain Evans was a patzer, it just means we don't have many games for him, and therefore we do NOT precompute a cached header. The technical point to this distinction is that with minor players it's no longer worth the administrative overhead to create a cache file for them, it's actually more efficient to compute their statistics on the fly every time their page is loaded. Oh, and did I mention, the delay is not always 24 hours? Every night the software works on recomputing headers, but if it finds that there has been too many mass changes, it tends to the highest rated players first and leaves the rest for the next night. So in theory it could take a as long as week for a low rated player to see an update to his header. Very unlikely, but possible. The biographers, who have been spoiled by "instant gratification" for all these years, now are running up firmly against this delay. One attitude could be "tough, live with it" -- but frankly if there was a way to make all of this invisible to the biographers I would do it. We have nothing against "instant gratification", it's just a tall order sometimes. |
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Jun-18-12
 | | chessgames.com: On a related subject, what is best?
<FIDE.com player card> <fide.com player card> <fide.com card>
<FIDE player card>
<FIDE card>
<fide.com>
or something else?
Note that it is a priority to us that the end-user is perfectly aware that clicking this link will cause them to leave Chessgames. That's why the ".com" is somewhat important to us. We're not one of these sites that prohibits linking to other sites but we don't want to steer confused readers in the direction of fide.com for no reason at all. For similar logic, brevity is important. <FIDE.com player rating card> might be the most correct but it would stand out as the prominent link on the page if we called it that. The shorter the text, the less obtrusive it is. We don't expect people to be clicking on these very much at all, but it should be easy to find if they need it. |
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Jun-18-12
 | | WannaBe: Player's rating card <ON> fide.com |
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Jun-18-12
 | | chessgames.com: <Benzol> Reviewing the Richard Taylor case I see a problem that you were probably trying to point out to me but I was too dense to understand what you were getting at. Poor Mr. Taylor does have a FIDE rating, but we can't see it, and what's worse there's no link to his card where we would be able to see it. Furthermore Taylor is a "minor player" (no offense Richard) and therefore the delay factor has nothing to do with his case. Now, if the new rating list came out, Richard would be correctly identified and our record on him would be updated with a current FIDE rating. Then the link would appear and everything would be kosher. But as things stand we have the data and are hiding it. OK, just call this a temporary bug. When we make changes like this there are ripple effects, but don't worry, we'll get it sorted out. Thanks. |
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