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Nov-10-12  DrNyet: While a training game certainly may be a serious game and a test of skill, an aspect that may make for distorted results is that the opening or colors could be dictated by one of the players to practice specific situations.

Perhaps a category like "Skittles, training, etc." would make sense if you want to minimize the number of categories. That sounds klunky... maybe "Unofficial"?

Nov-11-12  Boomie: <chessgames.com>

Put a link to this forum at the bottom of the page.

Nov-11-12  Boomie: <chessgames.com>

Links to posts in the Chessgames Challenge game do not work. They all take you to the most current page. We need to have this function working to find stuff buried in our mountain of analysis.

Nov-11-12
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  chessgames.com: <DrNyet> "Unofficial" is probably the best term because it would cover words like "casual" which certainly wouldn't apply to a Soviet training game. I'm still not satisfied with the answer to the question, "to what extent should such games be segregated?" In some situations it would be wrong to lump them together; in other situations it would be silly to make a distinction.

<Links to posts in the Chessgames Challenge game do not work. They all take you to the most current page.> We're aware of that, and I agree, it is annoying. They haven't worked since we first implemented those kinds of links. I promise that one day we'll address that issue.

<Put a link to this forum at the bottom of the page.> That's not a bad idea but I somewhat fear people abusing it. I suppose we can cross that bridge when we get to it.

Nov-11-12
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  chessgames.com: I think what I'm trying to say is that our database has a significant percentage of games which are "unofficial" by most people's standards. The Immortal Game was unofficial, was it not? Anything by Greco or Philidor would be unofficial. Therefore, the sheer volume of work to correctly sort games on this criterion is enormous.

So I can't really disagree with anything said on the subject, but I have to wonder if it's worth the effort to even go there. The idea of just adding a "training" type might be the more moderate solution.

Nov-11-12
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  Annie K.: <cg: <<Links to posts in the Chessgames Challenge game do not work. They all take you to the most current page.> We're aware of that, and I agree, it is annoying. They haven't worked since we first implemented those kinds of links. I promise that one day we'll address that issue.>>

Ah, the perl-type links? I noticed, a while back. Please make that <one day soon>, it really is a major inconvenience to be unable to point people to past posts. :)

Nov-11-12  The Last Straw: <chessgames.com>Report: The Kenneth Rogoff page is filled with 3,829 pages of discussion unrelated to Rogoff. Please try to fix this.
Nov-11-12
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  OhioChessFan: <Ah, the perl-type links? I noticed, a while back. Please make that <one day soon>, it really is a major inconvenience to be unable to point people to past posts. :) >

I know a person who's made that compl-errrrrrr-suggestion many times here.

Nov-12-12  Blunderdome: It would be great if you built a leaderboard for the tournament pages that could accommodate a KO format.
Nov-12-12  hms123: <chessgames.com>

FYI <Rinus Award>:

Activate: DcGentle
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Activate: truefriends
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I will confirm by email.

Nov-13-12  paavoh: @CG.com:

The tournament does not have the word "knock-out" in its title on the indicated WWW page.

Your designation of "FIDE Knock-Out Women's ..." might be funny for some, but offensive for others.

<Can we please have a forum for the <2012 FIDE WOMEN'S KNOCKOUT WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP>, which starts tomorrow?

http://chess2012.ugrasport.com/>

PS. Many thanks for your wonderful work!

Nov-13-12  Blunderdome: Also, all the tiebreak games at FIDE Knock-Out Women's World Championship (2012) have been reported as classical.
Nov-13-12
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  jessicafischerqueen: Good Morning.

I'd just like to thank you for making the new <Historical Tournament> project a fabulous reality.

Two groundbreaking new functions- the intros and information on rounds and games can now be edited by the CG historian team when and if new information comes to light. In addition, deep historical background information and links about each tournament can now be posted in the new Kibbutzing section.

Just wonderful, I'm so excited about this. Finally, I'm so glad you also have two prominent links on the front page that lead to these new tournament collections.

Congratulations and thank you from me and all others who regularly use these invaluable historical tournament collections.

New Tournaments (scroll to bottom to see the new Historical Additions)

Nov-14-12  notyetagm: <CG.COM>

You have a broken link. The link for the <2012 WORLD YOUTH CHAMPIONSHIP (GIRLS)> is the same as the <OPEN (BOYS)>.

OPEN TID -> tid=79278
GIRLS TID -> tid=79279

The girls tid is given as 79278 in the link, pointing to the open tournament.

Nov-15-12  Antiochus: The World Seniors 2012 has already started.
Due to the financial crisis this is a reduced tournament in comparisson to the last 3 years. Even so, we hope for good games like these two from the second round:

Acers 1/2 Sveshnikov
Jansa 0-1 Sasu-Ducsoara

Homepage: http://worldseniors2012.chessdom.com/
Live games: http://worldseniors2012.chessdom.co...

Nov-15-12
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  chessgames.com: <paavoh> <The tournament does not have the word "knock-out" in its title on the indicated WWW page. Your designation of "FIDE Knock-Out Women's ..." might be funny for some, but offensive for others.> I'm very sorry, I'm unclear on why some would consider it offensive (or funny, for that matter). Is it some unfortunate association with the term "knock-out" (as in boxing etc.?) We normally label knock-out events as such, to distinguish them from the more common Swiss or round-robin formats.

<JFQ> That been so long in the wish-list I feel like I owe you folks an apology rather than accepting thanks, but I thank you very much in any case. We're all giddy with the prospects for what the Tournament Index area might look like, after a few hundred tournaments are added.

<notyetagm> Ooops! Thanks.

<Antiochus: The World Seniors 2012 has already started.> Thanks for the info. We will make pages.

Nov-15-12
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  chessgames.com: <Blunderdome: Also, all the tiebreak games at FIDE Knock-Out Women's World Championship (2012) have been reported as classical.> Yes, that almost always happens with events like this. By the time the tournament is over we'll make sure that all the rapid games are rapid, the blitz games are blitz, and the armageddon games are armageddon. In the meantime it might show some erroneous designations, sorry about that, but you can tell from the round #'s what kind of game it is.
Nov-15-12  notyetagm: <CG.COM>

Can we please have a forum for the <RECTOR CUP> rapid chess event?

Thanks

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TWIC DOSSIER -> http://www.theweekinchess.com/chess...

TWIC PGN -> http://www.theweekinchess.com/asset...

Nov-16-12  notyetagm: <CG.COM>

Can we please have a forum for the <HOUDINI CHESS ENGINE>?

Thanks

Nov-16-12
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  chessgames.com: We don't have a page on Houdini, really? That can only mean we don't have any Houdini games. Surely we can find an good one to get a start. Any GM-vs-Houdini game around?
Nov-16-12
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  SwitchingQuylthulg: The only Houdini games we have are those of Golden Executive / Houdini :)

<cg> There's always this 40-game match between Rybka and Houdini: http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/f...

The PGN is a mess, but fixing that should not be too hard, and if you think 40 games is too many you can always pick the ones that you like :)

Nov-16-12  whiteshark: Houdini 3 - Rybka Cluster: 1-0 !

Some members of the German CSS-forum are organizing a show match between Houdini 3 on 16 cores and the Rybka Cluster playing with 64 cores. Time control: 105 minutes + 15 sec/move. Yesterday was the first match, played from the opening position without opening book. That didn't prevent Houdini 3 from playing a standard Nimzo-Indian defense against the Cluster's queen pawn opening - it's a testimony to the quality of current top engines that very good main-line openings are played without book. Houdini 3 slowly outplayed the Rybka Cluster in the middle game, and with a couple of excellent moves that took the Cluster by surprise (37...Qe6! and 42...a5!!) it completely invaded white's fragile position. A very fine performance by the world's #1 against the former world champion. Here's the complete game.
Rybka Cluster on 64 cores - Houdini 3 on 16 cores
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e3 b6 5. Bd3 Bb7 6. f3 c5 7. Nge2 Nc6 8. O-O cxd4 9. exd4 O-O 10. Qc2 h6 11. a3 Be7 12. Na4 Rc8 13. b4 Re8 14. Bb2 b5 15. Nc5 bxc4 16. Bxc4 Ba8 17. Qd2 Nd5 18. Ba6 Rb8 19. Bd3 Bg5 20. f4 Bh4 21. Rac1 d6 22. Ne4 Nce7 23. g3 Bf6 24. h3 h5 25. Rf2 Nf5 26. Re1 Nb6 27. Nxf6+ Qxf6 28. d5 Qg6 29. Nd4 Nxd5 30. Nxf5 exf5 31. Kh2 Nf6 32. Rfe2 Ne4 33. Qe3 Re7 34. Bxe4 Bxe4 35. Bd4 a6 36. Qc3 Ree8 37. Rc1 Qe6 38. Qa1 Rec8 39. Rce1 Qg6 40. Rc1 Rxc1 41. Qxc1 Qe6 42. Bb2 a5 43. Qc3 f6 44. Kg1 axb4 45. axb4 Rc8 46. Qd2 Qd7 47. Qe3 Qb5 48. g4 Rc4 49. gxf5 d5 50. Qf2 Bxf5 51. h4 d4 52. Qg3 Rxb4 53. Re7 Bg4 54. Bc1 Rb1 0-1.

Houdini also won the 2nd game a few days ago... /
I'll check for a link...

Nov-16-12  whiteshark: Here is one source: http://www.chess2u.com/t6503-houdin...

but 1st I saw it on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Houdi...

Nov-17-12
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  Peligroso Patzer: Although the problem I am going to discuss in this comment does not affect the CG site, I would be curious to know whether other CG users have encountered anything similar with the on-line endgame tablebases.

The problem I recently encountered involves a curious omission in the endgame tablebases available at either the Nalimov ( http://www.k4it.de/index.php?topic=... ) or Shredder ( http://www.shredderchess.com/online... ) endgame tablebases.

I was reviewing the technique for winning the endgame that arose in I Sokolov vs Ivanchuk, 2006 after <71. Kc1>:


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I set up the position (with colors reversed) at the Nalimov site and played through the winning method until I reached this position (with White to move):


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The evaluation given for both legal White moves was “Not found”. The same thing happened when I tried running the position through the Shredder site. (BTW, the position although simplified is not altogether trivial since <Kg5!> wins, but <Kh7?> only draws.) When I selected Black to move for the same position, the tablebases did state that taking the pawn (< … Kxf6>) would draw and all other moves would lose.

Curious. Has anyone encountered anything similar with these tablebases?

Nov-17-12  tbentley: There seem to problems at both sites with all positions with K+2P vs K or K+P+B vs K with the superior side to move. For example, at


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promoting to queen, rook, or knight are the only defined moves.

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