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Nov-22-12
 | | chessgames.com: <Annie K.: <cg> plz, is today's GOTD pun one of mine? It seems awfully familiar... :)> "Turkish Delight?" Honestly I don't see a Turk pun with your name on it, but if you say so, you can have the credit. Daniel thinks he made it up but it could just as likely be a case of cryptomnesia. <Mark Crowther has got PGN for 543 games of the World Youth Championship (2012) in <TWIC 941>> Excellent! God bless Mr. Crowther, that man is truly something to be thankful for today. |
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Nov-22-12
| | chessgames.com: <optimal play: Question please... How do we add "Annotations" to an existing game on CG.com?> Basically, we all add annotations by kibitzing. A few very special games are annotated by grandmasters (for example, see games annotated by Keene) but this is accomplished by a special arrangement and is not something that the members can do on demand. If you are a titled player and have annotations that you'd like to donate to the site, contact us by email and we'd be happy to make arrangements as we've done with Keene and others. |
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Nov-22-12
 | | Annie K.: <cg> yup, I looked it up myself - it's in the old list (http://www.chessgames.com/puns.html, search text for "Turkish"). Pretty sure that's mine. But Daniel can have half the credit at least, anyway, I wouldn't have thought to add in the extra twist of timing it for Thanksgiving. Heh! :) |
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| Nov-22-12 | | optimal play: Sorry, I guess the brevity of my question left it unclear. Specifically I'm thinking of the annotation by Wilhelm Steinitz for the 14 game match between Blackburne & Zukertort played at London in 1881
which was published in the London newspaper "The Field" (I'm guessing that would be out of copyright by now). I note that so far you have 5 of those games and I was wondering how we could include Steinitz's annotations in that specific "Annotation" box that appears under the game? |
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| Nov-23-12 | | Mrs. Alekhine: Hello!
I just faced a curious problem- suddenly tonight my default "chess viewer deluxe" java setting stopped working? I'm on Google Chrome.
So I went to the java troubleshooting page and refreshed browser, rebooted, without solving the problem. So then I changed preferences to "chess viewer deluxe II beta" and now there's no problem. Does this mean the beta version has actually killed the old version? I'm not a computer expert. Anyone else on Chrome and default "Chess viewer deluxe" have this happen? |
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| Nov-23-12 | | Alien Math: <Mrs. Alekhine> Have same occur on more then one games? Which java and chrome versions are using?
Open a new webpage, at top type about:plugins then see how many Flash plugins have enabled, should only have one Notes if have Java(TM) files with many many applications, try disable that, then close the page and open a new page, type about:plugins again then enable the Java(TM) files, sometimes work The test page for java http://java.com/en/download/testjav... The windows 8 version for control panel notes http://java.com/en/download/help/en... The google chrome page have none notes for windows 8 http://java.com/en/download/faq/chr... Not know why |
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Nov-23-12
 | | WannaBe: <optimal play> I think the answer to your question is this: Edit the PGN, anything in {} will be recognized as annotation. Find a game with annotation, and select PGN: View under the chess board for an example. <Mrs. Alekhine> Sounds like a cookie issue, did you have to (re)log-in? Or did the page auto-recognize you? By chance you deleted some cookies and or cleaned up your internet cache of the browser? Did you install an updated Chrome? |
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| Nov-23-12 | | Mrs. Alekhine: <Hanh>, <MannBee> Thanks for your help- The java test page shows me with the latest version and working properly. I have the latest updated Chrome and I hadn't cleared the cache for several days when this started happening last night. I'm not too worried about it now, since the beta "Chess Viewer Deluxe II" works fine. I just wanted to report in so the admins know something anomalous happened with something or other. |
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Nov-23-12
| | chessgames.com: <Mrs. Alekhine>
Thank you so much for your report. It dovetails with some similar emails we've recently received about Chrome suddenly disliking Chessgames, at least for some users. When you say <suddenly tonight my default "chess viewer deluxe" java setting stopped working> what exactly do you mean? Did you see the board, but with no pieces? Or pieces, but no game score? Or just a big white rectangle? Or not even that? Normally when we hear that the Java viewer stopped working, we offer some very boilerplate advice: how to enable/disable Java on your web browser, download the new version of Java, etc. However, we were greatly surprised to read that switching to Chess Viewer Deluxe II solved your problem. Brilliant of you to think of trying that! The major difference between the CVD and CVD2 is that the old one makes an extra web request, to get the PGN file. Conceivably, some browser might interpret that as potential hanky-panky and not allow it to execute. CVD2 cleverly reads the source of the page itself, in which one finds the embedded PGN. It's a much more efficient way of doing it. In principle, Chess Viewer Deluxe II (Beta) should be superior to Chess Viewer Deluxe in every way. Based on your description perhaps we should revisit the issue of changing the default viewer. The reasons why we've hesitated on that move for so long is unclear. |
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| Nov-23-12 | | optimal play: Thanks <WannaBe> I presume that would mean re-submitting the entire pgn with Steinitz's annotations in {} |
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| Nov-24-12 | | Mrs. Alekhine: Hello <admins> and thanks for such a detailed reply. I saw no board at all, the board never loaded.
However, the board not only loads fine with the <beta>, it also loads fine with all of the other java viewer preferences. lol "brilliant" no, credit goes to you folks, since your java trouble shooting page told me to try switching viewers in preferences. Well as far as I'm concerned the <beta> works and that's why I like it. If the reason why the original <chess viewer deluxe> stopped working for me is because of the technological improvements you've detailed, then maybe the <beta> is proving its worth. Finally, I am starting to believe that <Google Chrome> is evil. 1. At least here in Korea, when I sign in to Chrome, no matter from what computer, a highly annoying extra search tab appears, one that has been labeled malware by many internet sites. Luckily, Chrome bookmarks still persist even if you don't actually "sign in" to the browser, so I simply keep myself signed out. What kind of browser encourages you to "sign in" anyways. 2. My daily <spybot killer> picks up the same two tracking bots every day, both are labeled as being from Chrome. 3. I would ditch Chrome altogether if not for the fact that it has superb instant Translating on any page, but mainly because I have over 34,000 chess bookmarks on Chrome, all arranged in hundreds of different bookmark folders. Yes, hundreds. |
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| Nov-27-12 | | morfishine: <CG> Is there an interactive board template where we can paste PGN without having to type in all the moves? Thanks, Morf |
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Nov-27-12
 | | Stonehenge: Thanks for the picture here: Wilhelm Schoenmann. But Schönmann isn't playing Rellstab, they are both standing, Schönmann on the left. It says <International Master Ludwig Rellstab (right) and chess master Schönmann (left) gave their expert opinion on the games.> |
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Nov-27-12
| | Annie K.: <morfishine> try http://pgnplayer.com. |
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Nov-27-12
| | chessgames.com: Stonehenge, you are quite right, so sorry. |
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Nov-27-12
| | WannaBe: <morfishine> If you use Chess Viewer Deluxe (or beta) right click on the game's score, and a pop-up will allow you to paste PGNs. |
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| Nov-27-12 | | morfishine: Thanks <Wannabe> I found the copy PGN & paste PGN, but is there a blank template to paste these into? |
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Nov-27-12
| | WannaBe: <morfishine> Blank template? Not quite sure what you mean, or try to do. If you want a game with no moves, try the Topalov-Kramnik game. |
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| Nov-27-12 | | morfishine: Hi <Wannabe> I've tried to take a random game and paste the PGN, but it doesn't take: only the original PGN remains. On the plus side, once I type in the moves, the FEN is updated for diagram purposes |
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Nov-27-12
| | WannaBe: <morfishine> Dunno what to tell ya, I've done it 100s of times, from NotePad copy/paste, from game to another game... E.g. I go to Short vs Kasparov, 1993 and right click on the moves portion, select copy Game (PGN) Then go to another game, say J Konecna vs L Tobolikova, 1994 and right click, select paste Game (PGN), voila. I've also done it by copying PGN from GameKnot and pasted it with the same method. Without knowing the specific details (browser, how are you copying/pasting, etc.) I can't help you further. =( |
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Nov-27-12
 | | Check It Out: <CG> I've been noticing hyperlinked words here and there in various posts. I was reading an <OCF> post at the POTD just now and noticed a hyperlinked word, the word "bet". I figured it was to another post having something to do with his comment. Unfortunately, it took me to a weird casino website that would not let me leave until I pressed "leave this page" a dozen times or so. Very invasive. To be clear, I don't think <OCF> had anything to do with it. When I navigated back to his post a moment later there were no hyperlinks to be found. Any information on this phenomenon?
-- postscript:
Very strange: I'm in the "preview your kibitz" for this very post and the word "casino" is hyperlinked right now. I'm going to post and see if it's linked after that. |
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Nov-27-12
| | Check It Out: Nope, it's not. What's going on with these invasive hyperlinks? |
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Nov-27-12
 | | Viewer Deluxe: <Mrs. Alekhine> and <chessgames.com>
This will sound a bit too technical but may be related to your problems.
One other main difference between CVD and CVD2 is the usage of APPLET element. The newer approach relies on OBJECT element which is the modern and recommended way of doing it. Most of the current browsers still support APPLET and that’s why the difference might not be obvious.
In theory, if both are equally well supported, the result should be perfectly the same. In practice, there are always subtle differences which may be more visible with some browsers. So, why take chances? Since APPLET is long deprecated, there’s only one reliable way to stay compatible. <morfishine>,
Copy/Paste only works with IE. Which browser have you tried it with? <to all>
Feel free to ask CVD specific questions on my forum. If you’re lucky, others might have described something similar and you may find an idea or direction which is worth trying. |
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Nov-27-12
| | Annie K.: <CIO> sounds like (hopefully only) your browser may have picked up something nasty. For a start, I'd suggest switching to another browser, and see if that helps. |
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| Nov-27-12 | | morfishine: <Viewer Deluxe> Thanks, that must be the problem: I'm using Mozilla Firefox...I guess its typing for now... BTW: I can copy and paste into my PGN viewer, but it won't let me add moves beyond whats pasted... |
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