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| Feb-21-15 | | Abdel Irada: I know the situation isn't exactly the same, but I wonder if something like the special-purpose "channels" on FICS would be useful for <Kenneth Rogoff>, <Louis Stumpers>, <Odd Lie>, etc. This wouldn't help much with some of the more diffuse page takeovers, but I'm guessing a lot of users would find it much less confusing to have a <Politics> page, a <Stumpers> page and an <Odd Lies> page. (And it would help them get there if you added a link from the player page to the special-topic page.) Not only that, but it would stop the random monthly visitor to <Kenneth Rogoff> who drops in and demands to know why everyone's talking about politics. ∞ |
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| Feb-21-15 | | Jim Bartle: Well, here's a comment on the C Carroll page, after several Super Bowl posts on February 3: <Tabanus: I was about to give the first name, birth date, and some other biographical information. Plus a nice picture if CG would have it.> That would be one hell of a coincidence. No posts in 12 years, then he was just about to post the biographical information when damn!, someone posts about football. |
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Feb-21-15
 | | SwitchingQuylthulg: <Tabanus: <cg> Hundreds, at least. I get a little carried away here. But probably thousands with min. one post to be transferred. Your site has sooo great potential for the future, if only it could look more serious and appealing to the general public.> There are many good reasons why cleaning up such discussions, or parts of them, might be useful. That pages full of off-topic stuff damage CG.com's public appeal is not one of them; many more people actually share that childish, unsophisticated sense of humor than feel as offended by it as you do, and even the more grown-up bits of public don't really want player pages to be clinical, always serious and entirely on topic. This is not to say anybody (including him) would mind much if, say, all of <WhiteRook48>'s early posts got the axe (which would take the admins about a minute of coding, if that). But you and the general public find very different things appealing. |
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Feb-21-15
 | | Tabanus: <Jim Bartle> Why not? I've posted on many players or made bios after +10 years of silence. Examples: Charles Francis Buck, Val D Berzzarins, Christian Wingard, Albert Roberts, Edward Alberoni, L D Barbour, Harry Davidson, Samuel Newham, William Leighton Newham, Alfred Brodie, Edward Ambrose Dudley, Earl Simonson, M Didier, Hermann Liebenstein, Karl Vine, Karl Forster, A S Bernstein, S Solomons, Harry Kline, Otto Friedmann, Jens Kotainy, Benoit Colin, A de Poplawski, James Alexander Robertson, George Lumley, John Collett, Anton Edward Caroe, Luis Haritver, James D Slater, Alexander Thompson Bigelow, Ivars Dahlberg, Viesturs Seglins, Washington de Oliveira, Wilfried Dorazil, William Joseph Ingoldsby, Juan Brunner, Jesse William Stapp, Alexander Frijda, Arthur Garwood Ashbrook, etc. I'll stop there. All of these had no kibitzing (and most of them no bio) until 2012 or later. And I believe almost 2/3 of the players in the database still have no kibitzing? Don't tell me there will be off-topic posts on all of these. |
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Feb-21-15
| | Tabanus: There is something good and/or interesting to write about almost <every> player in the database! <Switch> Yes that may be true, unfortunately. I see your point. Not that I think much of this stuff <promotes> CG.com's public appeal. Especially not abroad, in non-English speaking countries. |
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Feb-21-15
| | Tabanus: <This is not to say anybody (including him) would mind much if, say, all of <WhiteRook48>'s early posts got the axe> I too noticed his post about regretting what he did. I'm sure that applies to many other teenagers too. Regarding the "general public" I hope CG will also consider Russians, East Europeans, Asians, Africans, and so on, and not only Americans. |
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Feb-21-15
| | Tabanus: Now let's assume this was a Norwegian site and I started a series of off-topic posts on Sander Kukk. I'm not so sure <everybody> would find it funny. |
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| Feb-21-15 | | Jim Bartle: <tabanus> One heck of a coincidence. |
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| Feb-21-15 | | Abdel Irada: <Tabanus>: If you have biographical information, it should be added to the player's biography (if any) atop the page, and entirely separate from any kibitzing. Also, as a general proposition, you are a purist. You want this site to be serious and focused, and not distract itself with trivia. However, not everyone agrees with this vision.
Sooner or later, I think you're just going to have to accept this and ignore the posts you deem fluff. And if you really can't stand some users for this reason, you can put them on ignore — if I understand correctly, you can now put as many names on your ignore list as you like. But unless you're pointing to specific inappropriate posts, you're going to make no headway forcing people to stay on topic or even talk about something you deem consequential. (This is not criticism but prediction.) ∞ |
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Feb-21-15
 | | Penguincw: Grr. I always miss out on "opportunities".
Anyway, I'd like to add one thing about the conversation regarding "deleting GOTD submissions": Can it be possible to automatically remove puns that one submits after someone else has submitted a different pun for GOTD? I have a bunch of games where I submitted a lame pun for a game, and that game ends up as GOTD but with a different pun from a different user. I find it pointless to still have it in there... |
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Feb-21-15
| | Tabanus: <Abdel Irada> Are you trolling me? ;) I want the <old> trivia/crap removed, so that pages like Sabih Alam Butt will look better. And hundreds of other pages. There will be plenty of new trivia left, only that you'd risk it would disappear sooner or later. Why this worry, I've now made my point. |
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Feb-21-15
 | | Annie K.: <cg> I can't see why (i.e., which forum causes the issue), but the Recent Chessforum Activity page is very stretched right now. :s <Penguincw> yeah, I have one of those too. Although it is also possible for a (not really lame) pun to just be "held in reserve" because the particular game you submitted it for actually has a pun that works for it even better, but yours might still be used for a different game by the player whose name you're punning on. All in all, the more possible scenarios I think of, the more I believe the delete option should be offered to actually negative-scoring puns only. |
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Feb-21-15
| | Annie K.: Recent Chessforum Activity back to normal now. :) |
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Feb-21-15
| | SwitchingQuylthulg: <Annie K.: <Penguincw> yeah, I have one of those too. Although it is also possible for a (not really lame) pun to just be "held in reserve" because the particular game you submitted it for actually has a pun that works for it even better, but yours might still be used for a different game by the player whose name you're punning on. All in all, the more possible scenarios I think of, the more I believe the delete option should be offered to actually negative-scoring puns only.> But puns with really bad voting scores stand out from the group, and thus have a decent chance of catching an administrator's eye... :) |
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Feb-21-15
| | Annie K.: ...and they have been known to overrule the public opinion, now and then - and a good thing, too, in some cases. Yep. :D |
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| Feb-22-15 | | Abdel Irada: <Tabanus>: I looked over the Sabih Alam Butt page, and you are right. There's not a word of content on that page that does its poster credit. The problem is, we can agree that this stuff is trash, but removing it puts us on a slippery slope. Once we get past all the "Hee hee, his name is Butt," we come to all the other cases where it isn't so clear. I have great sympathy for your desire to improve the pages, but little certitude that any remedy will not be worse than the disease. ∞ |
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Feb-22-15
 | | chessgames.com: I'm not sure where to file this, but a few weeks ago we were discussing "fixpgn" and I think it was zanzibar who rightfully asked why it is only run a few times a week, and not several times a day. There wasn't really a good answer for that, other than it wasn't programmed efficiently enough to run frequently. (By default, it tries to tackle all 174,000 games.) This situation has now been remedied. In short, you won't be running into headers that contradict the data as frequently. |
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Feb-22-15
| | Tabanus: <Abdel Irada> I rest my case, and join CG's high hopes for the idea of side-discussions. Perhaps the axe can be used on some of these at some time in the future, if they hire a Viking ;) |
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| Feb-22-15 | | MarkFinan: <MarkFinan: Billy Joel - Keeping the Faith: http://youtu.be/ph7oZnBH05s
"I never felt the desire, to let music set meoon fire.... > Ceegee.. Try repost the above and see if the word "music" appears in the preview kibitz box as "Meeeon!?". I typed it out and when I checked for typos the bottom box where you can edit your post was fine, the box above still had it spelled as meeoon! |
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| Feb-22-15 | | MarkFinan: It's done it again! The word "music" got filtered into "Meeon!". |
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Feb-22-15
| | Annie K.: Meow? ;s
<cg> The European Individual Chess Championship 2015 is starting in two days: http://www.eicc2015.com/participants/ :) |
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| Feb-22-15 | | zanzibar: <<chessgames> <This situation has now been remedied. In short, you won't be running into headers that contradict the data as frequently.>> This welcome bit of good news has not failed to catch "our" attention. Thx. |
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Feb-23-15
| | Annie K.: Yes, indeed!
BTW, I just noticed on the homepage that today's opening is called the 'Makagonov System' - presumably named after Vladimir Andreevich Makogonov? Would be nice to synchronize the spellings, in one direction or the other. :) |
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Feb-23-15
 | | kamalakanta: It is Makogonov. This should be fixed. |
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| Feb-24-15 | | notyetagm: <CG.COM>
Can we please have a forum for the <16TH EUROPEAN INDIVIDUAL CHESS CHAMPIONSHIP (EICC)>, which just started today in Jerusalem? Thanks |
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