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Sep-05-15  MarkFinan: Travis Bickle chessforum

I object to the name of Travis Fickle's forum title. He admitted that he was drunk <again>!

Sep-05-15  TheFocus: That Forum title is clearly on the level of a posting violation.
Sep-05-15
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  chessgames.com: Objection sustained.
Sep-05-15  NeverAgain: Thank you for the explanation, <cg.com>.

<When it doesn't display simple ECO names, you are reading designations from the Caxton Opening Database authored by Eric Schiller. It has some glaring holes in it like the Anti-Marshall that you metnioned, and more than a few strange misspellings, and some very whimsical but non-standard names to offbeat openings. Nevertheless, it's very expansive, so improving upon it seems like the smarter approach than rebuilding from scratch.>

Have you looked at Scid? It's ECO classification file (scid.eco) is 20,000+ lines, probably the most comprehensive freely-available resource. It builds on ECO by adding lower-case-letter sublines (e.g. C88a, C88b, C88c etc). The Anti-Marshall alone, for example, is devoted eight lines.

https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/code...

It shouldn't be too hard to parse this file, convert the final position of each subline to FEN and incorporate the results into the cg.com DB, I think.

Sep-05-15  NeverAgain: Another issue, this one concerns posting analysis.

It appears that the forum software either doesn't recognize or deletes line breaks between adjacent lines. That makes reading analysis quite hard.

Example: I'm posting several variations to the same move and so would like them to appear on consecutive lines:

line 1: a) some moves <line break> line 2: b) some moves <line break> line 3: c) some moves etc.

However, the software runs into all into one line (as you can see in the above example, heh). The only way around it seems to be creating new paragraphs (i.e. inserting blank line in between). That doesn't improve readability either - it makes it hard to figure out which variation goes with which move.

It's odd that the software allows inserting HTML char codes and displays most of them fine, yet it seems to ignore line-break ones (like #10 and #13).

Sep-05-15  LucB: Hello,

I have a question about the issue of not being able to use the "Chess Viewer Deluxe II" in Chrome, but having no problems using it in IE.. I do most of my web browsing in Chrome and it would be nice if it were ALL done there.. It used to work in Chrome; it just doesn't anymore.

What am I doing wrong? (and don't say: "you're using Google Chrome")

Thanks!

Sep-05-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  WannaBe: <LucB> Google have decided to stop java applets from running in Chrome. Not you are doing anything wrong...
Sep-05-15  LucB: Hmm, ok thanks <WannaBe> ... maybe I'll switch to IE for all browsing then.
Sep-06-15  sydbarrett: Is there an anti-Java conspiracy or is Java that evil? Damn. Tis a shame, because I love Google Chrome.
Sep-06-15
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  Tabanus: And Java fails on my Windows Home Premium using IE 9.

Or more correctly (am I right?), IE 9 and Chrome won't work any more when Java is starting up.

Sep-06-15
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  WannaBe: <Tabanus> Java will work with IE, v9 or v10, or v11. You just have to change the security setting to medium and then add chessgames.com to your trusted site.

Chessgames.com Troubleshooting Page

There's a version that loads really really really slow. But the latest works great. You may also want to upgrade IE9, which is kinda old version.

Sep-06-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Tabanus: <Wannabe> Ok. But chessgames.com is added to trusted sites already, and the security setting was Default (Medium). It just won't. Btw IE asked if I would have it the default browser, I said NO and perhaps that was the punishment.
Sep-06-15
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  WannaBe: <Tabanus> What is the bit of the browser? You are using IE9, so I am guessing 32-bit browser.

Install 32-bit Java, not 64-bit. Your Windows may be 64-bit but most likely your browser is not.

Then go to java verify page. https://www.java.com/en/download/in...

Sep-06-15
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  Tabanus: <WannaBe> No it says IE 9 64-bit.

Windows is 64-bit too. And it seems Java and Chrome won't tell whether they are 32 or 64 :)

Sep-06-15
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  WannaBe: Well, if you are going to stick with IE9, then get the/try 64-bit version of java, you can have both 32-bit and 64-bit of Java on your system.

Chrome is kaput. No Java with Chrome. So don't worry about it.

Sep-07-15
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  chessgames.com: <SirRuthless: <Moderators> ______ can't seem to go two posts without levying a personal attack against me. I chose to ignore him but he can't seem to let his personal problems with me go. I will not directly engage him but i would like for you to ban his account if this continues.>

SirRuthless, your attitude is excellent but you violated a rule that you probably didn't know about. We do not allow complaints to be made against specific members on this forum; we did that in the past and found it only exacerbated personal attacks. For that reason I deleted your post and redacted the name above. However, we do take such complaints seriously

The proper avenue to take is to find specific messages which you feel have violated our policies and "blow the whistle". In this case it sounds like rule #1, the "personal attack." It may require you to find several messages to demonstrate a pattern of activity, but if the problem is as bad as you say that should be easy.

Sep-07-15  NeverAgain: A new layout idea. Currently, game pages look streamlined and neat. That's good. There's a lot of wasted screen estate on the right and the left, though, while the game board is stuck at the top of the page. That makes comments and variations hard to follow.

Would it be possible to implement an optional layout with the kibitzing column shifted to the right (or left, or per user preferences) and the board (and score) anchored on the left. So that as you scroll the page, the board remains in the same position, always visible. Kind of like Chessbase does it on its news pages.

This could be made a premium-only feature and provide another incentive to get premium membership.

Also please see this chessgames.com chessforum (kibitz #23323) and the following post (about Scid's ECO file and posting analysis)

Sep-07-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  chessgames.com: <NeverAgain: A new layout idea.> The notion of seeing the board while you scroll the comments is a good one. As things stand you often have to flip from the comments to the board and back again to follow the discussion.

About the SCID opening database, I was very excited to learn about that and will surely investigate.

Sep-07-15  NeverAgain: Good to hear that.

Another observation about the forum software eating line breaks. I just realized that this doesn't seem to happen if the lines are very short, e.g.

1.e4 e5
2.f4 exf4
3.Nf3 g5
4.Bc4 g4

This displays as intended, on separate lines with no blank lines in between. However, add some comments and you get a run-on mess like this:

1.e4 e5 - King's Pawn Opening, the classical mainstay 2.f4 exf4 - King's Gambit Accepted, the romantic attacker's playground 3.Nf3 g5 - the orthodox way of meeting the above, aka hanging on the extra pawn for dear life 4.Bc4 g4 - inviting the Polerio (aka Muzio) Gambit, where White sacrifices a Knight for a tremendous attack

Is this a known bug?

Sep-07-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Tabanus: <WannaBe> I downloaded IE 11, and now it works. Thanks for the help!
Sep-07-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  chessgames.com: <Is this a known bug?> It's a known feature. The short answer is that line-breaks are ignored intentionally, except under special circumstances (namely, short lines).

It's been discussed here many times, here is the only example I could find offhand: chessgames.com chessforum (kibitz #8116).

Somewhere there is a more thorough post explaining the motivation for why it works this way. It could be briefly summarized: "some people are dumb." You'd be surprised at the number of people who don't know when or why to press "enter". Without this feature, their posts would look positively horrific.

Sep-07-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  chessgames.com: In other business, we've silently made a change to Guess-the-Move that makes it better suited for mobile devices.

I tested it on both an Android and an iPhone, and the new display works very slick, eliminating the need to constantly resize the diagram.

Sep-07-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Tabanus: <NeverAgain> Probably best to be concise :)

1.e4 e5 - King's Pawn Opening, the classical mainst
2.f4 exf4 - King's Gambit Accepted, the romantic at
3.Nf3 g5 - the orthodox way of meeting the above, a
4.Bc4 g4 - inviting the Polerio (aka Muzio) Gambit, where White sacrifices a

Sep-07-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  WannaBe: < Tabanus: <WannaBe> I downloaded IE 11, and now it works. Thanks for the help! >

Great News!

Sep-07-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Annie K.: <cg: <In other business, we've silently made a change to Guess-the-Move that makes it better suited for mobile devices.>>

Ooh, thanks!!! =)

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