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Mar-27-16  hms123: <Jess>

Smaller. It is an iPad mini. I don't know how they get all that info into such a small device. Magic, I think. Arthur C. Clarke got it right: any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable fro magic.

Mar-27-16  hms123: <Daniel>
Btw, I also noticed that I was unable to paste a link into my response to <Jess>, above. Not to mention I could correct my typo because there isn't a delete button.
Mar-27-16
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  Tabanus: CG, just in case you want the games here (Shankland won, Urkedal 4th GM norm, also games by deFirmian),

http://turneringsservice.sjakklubb....

Mar-28-16
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  jessicafischerqueen:
<H> No, I meant why were you standing on your iPad. I'm on a chair at the moment, but later on I'll be on my feet. Or on my bed if lucky.
Mar-28-16  Octavia: when I go to the life page I get this note: "Firefox prevents this page from automatically reloading." I can click a button to reload. How could I get firefox to behave?
Mar-28-16  hms123: <Jess>

Aha! So I could reach the lightbulb.

Mar-28-16
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  jessicafischerqueen:

<H> Good thinking brah- that extra six millimeters could save your life in the field.

How is your connection to cg.com in general? I'm having lag problems here in Korea.

Example right now I timed out twice before getting to this page.

<LAG PROBLEM cg.com timing out very difficult to get on and navigate the site:

11:43 pm Korean Time, March 28 2016 on Desk Top Google Chrome brah>

Mar-28-16  luftforlife: I'm experiencing on my laptop difficulties similar to those <jessicafischerqueen> described: no timing-out, but very slow site-navigation; avatars and images very slow to load; kibitzing pages hard to access. I haven't previously encountered these particular difficulties here on <cg>, and I'm not having any difficulty with navigation or image-upload on other websites. Not a criticism, just an observation.
Mar-28-16  YouRang: Same here -- cg.com is crawling.
Mar-28-16
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  Penguincw: Yeah, slow on the site. The only other site that's slow for me this morning in chess24.

< 499 registered members online, plus 1156 anonymous users. >

To think this is only the Candidates tournament. Imagine the WCC...

Mar-28-16
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  juan31: chessgames.com: The colors and the function "delete" , returned, the sizes continue giants.
Mar-28-16
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  offramp: <zanzibar: <offramp> we should all model ourselves after you!>

I'd rather stand up and log off
Than look at a post in Rogoff.

Mar-28-16  hms123: <juan31>

Same here.

Mar-28-16
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  Peligroso Patzer: <beenthere240: As is well known, Bill G and Warren B are bridge buffs. Bridge is still a long way away from being computer busted.>

The foregoing post is from page 23 of the thread of comments to Karjakin vs Caruana, 2016. I did not want to clutter that thread with a discussion on a non-germane topic, but it seemed OK to address it here.

In passing and for complete context, I will note that the first part of the above post refers to an earlier comment relating to the fact that Gates and Buffett have not put any portion of their respective large fortunes towards sponsorship of chess.

With regard to the current state of the art for computer engines that play bridge, I have a few thoughts, although I am knowledgeable about neither computer programming nor bridge strategy beyond an extremely rudimentary level.

My first thought is that programming a computer to play bridge is fundamentally different from writing a program for chess analysis due to the fact that a given player lacks perfect knowledge of two other hands (both opponents’ hands in the case of the declarer, and the hands of the declarer and one’s partner in the case of the two defenders).

Although each player of a hand of bridge lacks perfect knowledge of how cards are distributed, I would have thought that with knowledge of the bidding conventions being utilized by the respective partnerships (and it is my understanding – possibly incorrect - that partnerships must disclose the bidding conventions they are using), the bidding history for a hand and the cards already played as the play of a deal proceeds, it would be possible to write a program that would be able to implement a statistically perfect play of the hand. By statistically perfect, I mean a strategy that has more likelihood of success than any alternative strategy taking into accounts the statistical probability of the various possible distributions of unknown cards. If this is correct, I would say that such a program would have "solved" (or "busted") bridge.

Is there some (or several) fundamental flaw(s) in the foregoing?

Mar-28-16
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  OhioChessFan: < 499 registered members online, plus 1156 anonymous users. >

In general, do you know what the anonymous users are doing/performing/accessing on this site?

Mar-28-16
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  WannaBe: Love the new look and layout on my iPad.
Mar-28-16  technical draw: You still around <Wannabe>? Where are the gags? Funniest Kibitzer is not just a title, you have to produce. (and don't tell me that carrots are produce).
Mar-28-16
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  chessgames.com: <WannaBe: Love the new look and layout on my iPad.>

<juan31: chessgames.com: The colors and the function "delete" , returned, the sizes continue giants.>

Hmmm... that's the problem with these changes. Possibly it's broken on some tablets and works well on others. But for all I know you two are looking at virtually the exact same thing.

Mar-28-16
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  chessgames.com: <In general, do you know what the anonymous users are doing/performing/accessing on this site?> Sure. It breaks down similar to what you'd imagine: a bunch of them on the daily puzzle, lots of miscellaneous research, and today there were ~800 people watching the game at one point.
Mar-28-16
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  chancho: Yeah, and it made it difficult at some points to log in for me.

(Had to refresh the page repeatedly.)

But it's great the site was getting all that traffic.

Mar-28-16
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  chessgames.com: <Peligroso Patzer> <Although each player of a hand of bridge lacks perfect knowledge of how cards are distributed, I would have thought that with knowledge of the bidding conventions being utilized by the respective partnerships (and it is my understanding – possibly incorrect - that partnerships must disclose the bidding conventions they are using), the bidding history for a hand and the cards already played as the play of a deal proceeds, it would be possible to write a program that would be able to implement a statistically perfect play of the hand. By statistically perfect, I mean a strategy that has more likelihood of success than any alternative strategy taking into accounts the statistical probability of the various possible distributions of unknown cards. If this is correct, I would say that such a program would have "solved" (or "busted") bridge.

Is there some (or several) fundamental flaw(s) in the foregoing?>

That's totally off-topic and fascinating. I do not fully understand the rules of contract bridge so I am not qualified to opine on that specific game, but I have read about research done with computers and poker, another card game that relies on imperfect knowledge. In fact, computer pioneer John von Neumann tried to tackle the problem of poker and failed, although he came up for a mathematical solution to a simplified poker derivative, in which the betting takes place simultaneously instead of in order. Obviously a ton of progress has been made since then but the last I checked we still haven't "solved" poker, which seems so simple compared to bridge.

So if you want my opinion. there must be an optimum strategy for bridge (and poker) but it's not necessarily true that we can program computers to quickly hone in on that strategy. Interesting cutting-edge computing techniques may be required, and success if not guaranteed.

Mar-28-16
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  chessgames.com: <To think this is only the Candidates tournament. Imagine the WCC...> Our new web-server is being set up right now. Fingers crossed.
Mar-28-16
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  WannaBe: <chessgames.com: ...

Hmmm... that's the problem with these changes. Possibly it's broken on some tablets and works well on others. But for all I know you two are looking at virtually the exact same thing.>

Maybe a temporary header (2 month?) that <PROCLAIMS> new Mobile Look would help? (Only on mobile devices, of course, unless you are on Win10 and then it's confusing as heck)

Mar-28-16
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  WannaBe: From Miami Herald:

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nat...

Only about 3 weeks behind.

Mar-29-16
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  jessicafischerqueen:

I'm not computer literate but how long does it take to get a proper server up and running? AFAIK you have been working on this for almost a year now?

Not working properly yet, so please don't give up.

<60 second lag 7:14 Korean time, Desktop computer Google Chrome.>

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