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Nov-19-20
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: Long and short of it is that the self-styled <Elite Posters> signed their exit visas from the Rogovian miasma at the beginning of August, making a great show of declaring a 'Free Speech Zone' elsewhere. The cacophony over purging Rogoff of virtually all its contents has only seriously come into play since the results of the recent election have become apparent. The insistence of one particular cabal that this should be so makes one wonder why.
Nov-19-20  realdumptrump: Complaining about <schoolyard bullying> while hanging with <BP>?!

Gheesh.

Daniel had the wisdom to create an anonymous user to avoid such conflicts of interest.

The recent discourse on <Rogoff> didn't participate this crisis. It was this:

chessgames.com chessforum (kibitz #34281)

Nov-19-20  realdumptrump: Or rather this:

<Kristina [Susan's daughter] also thinks the political banter is embarrassing.

You have the same 3 members posing inane political banter. It's embarrassing. That's not a community. That's present on any youtube comment thread or any facebook page. It's lowest common denominator discourse and it's useless. Just open to discussion>

chessgames.com chessforum (kibitz #34272)

Nov-19-20  nok: There's also this:

<Mom, you are not up to date on this. The worst people in the country right now cry "freedom of speech" any time you try to deplatform them for spreading literal nazi propaganda.>

Daughter seems, I won't say smarter, but more aware.

Nov-20-20  Big Pawn: <You have the same 3 members posing inane political banter. It's embarrassing.>

Who are the same three posters that have been posting there non stop over the last few months when this observation was made?

The <Tuna>?

<Chancho>?

<HMM>?

I can see why the posting is considered embarrassing.

I now challenge the pink pussyhat posse to find ways to contribute that make CG better instead of making it worse.

I will lead by example.

A small improvement can be made:

When deleting a post, you first have to:

1. Click delete
2. You are redirected to a page that asks you to confirm deletion - you confirm and click delete again. 3. You are brought to a nowhere page. This is the part that is unnecessary. You have to click "return to forum" to go back to where you were.

There is no point to that. You should automatically be redirected back to the page you were on after confirming deletion of your post. It's one click less and it's one less call to the server.

I encourage the antifa boys to follow my lead and be helpful. Make CG better instead of making it worse.

Nov-20-20
Premium Chessgames Member
  moronovich: <saffuna: A good start would be to suspend people who throw racist, offensive insults at other posters. You have declined to do that.>

This is the only way to go.
Otherwise we shall wind up in a situation like this one,were the most offensive posters declare themselves the elite.

Nov-20-20  Big Pawn: < moronovich: <saffuna: A good start would be to suspend people who throw racist, offensive insults at other posters. You have declined to do that.>

This is the only way to go.
Otherwise we shall wind up in a situation like this one,were the most offensive posters declare themselves the elite.>

Shall we play a little game where I dig up offensive posts from <you guys>?

Do you not think I can dig up a zillion such posts?

I and others think you and your ilk are the most offensive posters, but so what? The Rogoff page will be toast soon, the website with move forward with CHESS, and your butthurt feelings will be as dust in the wind.

Look, I could fill this forum full of truly obsence, nasty, hateful, vitriolic and systematic personal attacks coming from the snowflake side.

Fortunately, I don't think it's necessary.

Nov-20-20  diceman: <saffuna: A good start would be to suspend people who throw racist, offensive insults at other posters.>

From the pretenders homepage:

<Starting today February 18 I am going to address all kibitzers either by their full usernames or by non-pejorative abbreviations.

I made a brief exception for <thefocus>. who deserved it.

Now I'm making more exceptions, especially for <big terrrorist sympathizer> because of his sympathy and justification for Darren Osborne's actions.>

So it looks like "saffuna rules" are optional.

I wonder if Perf will still be allowed to do gay jokes/and name call?

Especially with OhiYuk.

Remember guys, my charity:

<Mirrors for Libs>

is still up and running.

Nov-20-20  diceman: <Susan Freeman:

<Saffuna> with all due respect. What the heck does the outcome of the election have to do with with keeping the Rogoff political have to do with it?>

Welcome to the world of saffuna.

His powerful "in-between-the-ears" ability, allows him to read our minds, and make compelling, insightful, posts.

Not possessing his otherworldly talents, your view of this site is pedestrian by comparison.

Nov-20-20
Premium Chessgames Member
  chancho: Inane political banter:

<Jun-10-20
Kenneth S Rogoff

Big Pawn: <chancho: Today, according to Worldometer, 11,033 new cases, 566 new deaths in the US from Covid-19. The virus has proven to have real staying power given it's June 10. Will the infections skyrocket in September. God, I hope not.>

No one is talking about covid anymore, and the numbers you post are utterly meaningless.

Libs rioted in 400 different cities across America for more than a week. If anything could put covid-19 on steroids, that would be it.

If the world comes to an end in two weeks, then we'll know that it's because there was no social distance during the week long riots. If there is no major breakout, then we know it's all hysteria.

Newsflash: viruses come and go. It's a part of life.

Stop wetting your pants and act like a man.>

<May-31-20
Big Pawn: Is segregation possible without repatriation? Is segregation what we really need? How about simply ending forced integration?

I say we give California to the blacks, which everyone knows is a beautiful state, and they can stay there. If some of them really want to live with the white folks, then they are free to do that if they insist, but there should be an area that is for whites and and area for the blacks, but ultimately, free association rules the day.

The idea is to create two big safe spaces where the sames can be with the sames and the differents with the differents, so that everyone is comfortable and cozy.

And about sending blacks to Africa, why limit it to Africa? If blacks are unhappy in America, we should help them move out of the country to wherever they want, arranging financial matters with the host country. Long ago Americans imported blacks into this country and made them slaves, just like the Jews being made slaves in Egypt. The Jews were slaves in Egypt for 400 years before Moses came along after which they were set free.

Perhaps it's time to set black people free>

I can understand why he would want Rogoff deleted.

Nov-20-20  thegoodanarchist: <<Susan Freeman: I am close to a clean up. Here. But I am open to member suggestions. I remain open minded.
Just attempting to elevate the discussions.
Or eliminate them altogether.
Seriously>

Since you asked... ;)

I think you should delete all comments in the Rogoff forum. And then if anyone posts anything off topic, delete it AND give a suspension.

The suspensions should grow in length for each subsequent off-topic post. For example, first violation = 1-week suspension. Second violation = 1-month suspension, etc.

<al wazir> has his own forum where he can have his discussions. In fact, wasn't that the idea behind member forums in the first place? A location for their off-topic posts, as long as they support the site financially?

Nov-20-20  thegoodanarchist: < realdumptrump:

They deliberately see a post they don't like, it sets them off so much that they come out like a swarm of hornets, stirring up such a controversy and carnage that they know the admins will delete the entire thread.>

You are completely delusional, <zanzibar>. There is no "gang" oppressing you. Spare us your victim mentality, please.

<They get their chuckles trolling everybody>

It's just the opposite. <BP> posts more substantively than just about anyone espousing leftist views on Rogoff.

<It's a laugh to suggest the other side utilizes this technique.>

It's laughable to suggest anyone is using that technique, either here or on Rogoff.

Instead, let's get you back into the real world. What you see happening in Rogoff? (and now here) There is a word for it. The word is "conversation".

SJWs like you need enemies for your crusade, so you see conspiracies where there are none.

Nov-20-20  thegoodanarchist: <realdumptrump: BP's disrespect and disdain towards others knows no bounds.>

This kind of snowflake mentality is what is killing America.

A real man can deal with criticism, and learns to do so.

Nov-20-20  thegoodanarchist: < moronovich: <<<saffuna: A good start would be to suspend people who throw racist, offensive insults at other posters. You have declined to do that.>>>

This is the only way to go. >

You 2 have been inadvertently helpful. Since the words "racism" and "racist" are so misused in today's culture, I often wonder what other people think these terms mean.

Now I know! The <saffuna>/<moronovich>/<nok> types think the definitions are

"racist" = anyone I want to censor.

and "racism" = any idea I disagree with, unless the idea is sexist instead

This type of thinking (and I use the term loosely) is incompatible with Liberty. It is expressly "un-American".

Nov-20-20
Premium Chessgames Member
  saffuna: Referring to <tga>'s post above:

I have re-posted one specific very abusive, very racist post. <susan> deleted it. It was posted on the Rogoff page by <keyser soze> on October 7.

Of course <thegoodanarchist>, <big pawn>, <optimal play> and others fled the Rogoff page back in August to a new safe space where they would be free from criticism and nobody would remind them of all their posts exalting Trump's invincibility.

Nov-20-20  Keyser Soze: Exactly <tga>.

I applaud <Susan>'s decision to nuke all off topic posts from Rogoff from now on. Why not? Why <saffuna's> chumps are complaining anyway?

The "rightwingers" already left for <big pawn>s forum. Right? .So why not someone from the other group <DO THE SAME> and open up a forum and start to talk about anything they want? So simple.

That's the spirit of personal forums anyway. And player page are supposed to talk about chess. And Rogoff was a strong GM , btw, not a patzer.

Cheers <adm> !

Nov-20-20
Premium Chessgames Member
  saffuna: I re-posted what <keyser soze> posted on the Rogoff page. It was so vile that <susan> immediately deleted it.
Nov-20-20  Keyser Soze: Cry out <saffuna>.. Game over.

Open up your forum and stop breaking peoples balls and attacking Susan.

Time to do <something else> with your retiring time.

Heh he heh

Life is fair
Life is good

Nov-20-20  mckmac: <Susan Freeman wrote to Al wazir: I would be happy to issue you a refund if you are so dissatisfied.>

With the greatest of respect I must say that I consider this to be the wrong approach.

Nov-20-20
Premium Chessgames Member
  saffuna: <Keyser Soze: Cry out <saffuna>.. Game over.>

You're right, <keyser>. Game over. The man you exalted above others for four years has been defeated.

<Life is fair
Life is good>

It is indeed. January 20 is appproaching.

Nov-20-20  Keyser Soze: < <Susan Freeman:
<Saffuna> with all due respect. What the heck does the outcome of the election have to do with with keeping the Rogoff political have to do with it?>

what? ? lol

Unbelievable...

Nov-20-20
Premium Chessgames Member
  saffuna: <susan> Again, this demonstrates a problem I have brought up. <keyser> has me on ignore, cannot read what I post, but still comments based on second-hand quotes and responses.
Nov-20-20  nok: Do you think if he had first-hand quotes his posts would be smarter?
Nov-20-20
Premium Chessgames Member
  saffuna: They could hardly be dumber.
Nov-20-20  Robed.Bishop: Hmm, it's been awhile since I've visited this forum. I see the "Rogoff arguments" have moved here.
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