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| Sep-07-18 | | Big Pawn: No, this whole big fuss you're making about the So biography is nothing but trolling. You're just stirring up trouble. |
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Sep-07-18
 | | saffuna: I invite anybody interested to read through the posts and decide whether I am trolling. My position is that the bios should be historically accurate, and important chess-related information should not be omitted solely because the player doesn't want it included. Or if all material is OKed by the player, or written by the player, that information should be included at the beginning or the end of the bio. |
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| Sep-07-18 | | Big Pawn: You're full of crap, <tuna>. You just found something to troll about. You're trolling. |
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Sep-07-18
 | | jessicafischerqueen:
No.
<Jim> is not "just stirring up trouble" or "trolling"; he is revisiting an as yet still unclarified issue that is of great concern to cg.com editors/historians. Many of them have voiced agreement with <Jim's> take on the issue in the last two days. This is the only issue on the plate that is of any actual importance to this website: <Jim>: <My position is that the bios should be historically accurate, and important chess-related information should not be omitted solely because the player doesn't want it included.Or if all material is OKed by the player, or written by the player, that information should be included at the beginning or the end of the bio.> |
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| Sep-07-18 | | Big Pawn: Jim doesn't give two hoots about any of that. He's just trolling. This is how he operates and he does it all the time. Making this a big issue is completely arbitrary and it's Jim who is making it a big issue. This has <tuna> written all over it. I've read over 50,000 of his posts over the last 5 years on the Rogoff page. I know <tuna> when I see it. |
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Sep-07-18
| | saffuna: ...neatly evading the actual issue at hand. |
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| Sep-07-18 | | Big Pawn: There is no issue, except you making a mountain out of a mole hill so that you can troll somewhere else besides your usual spots. Look at the big deal you've made over this tiny issue. 100% <tuna>. |
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Sep-07-18
 | | Tabanus: Hopefully Sargon will clean this page.
So I can just as well say something: some of you should stick the finger in the soil and try to feel where you come from. |
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| Sep-07-18 | | thegoodanarchist: <rogge: Sure you are :)
<default child custody has to go to the father in a divorce. It should be mandatory, no exceptions, that a wife divorcing her husband show cause to deprive him of his children>> Your post makes no sense. No feminist would agree with what I wrote about child custody! In fact, they'd want to hang me for it, no doubt. |
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| Sep-07-18 | | thegoodanarchist: < jessicafischerqueen: I'll stand by every word I wrote.>
Well, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. Also, maybe you made the mistake of not finishing all the posts prior to replying yesterday? I've made the same mistake myself at times. My point is, if you kept reading, you may have noted this exchange between me and <Jimbo>: I proposed: <In 2012 So moved to the United States and played on the top-rated SPICE team at Webster University. So left the team in 2015.> Jim's response was
<saffuna: That would be OK. Weak, but acceptable.It should at least mention the championships the SPICE team won.> So I replied <... when I started to read your reply, my first thought was that I should congratulate you for being so reasonable, and that maybe I was wrong about your motive.> And it all occurred BEFORE you wrote
<Many of you ... have indeed been harping on this phantom "ulterior" motive from <Jim>, which is an irresponsible fantasy driven 100% by personal animus towards <Jim> > You have cause and effect backwards. Any animus I have towards him is because of his frequent dishonesty on the Rogoff forum. This dishonesty often takes the form of <Jim> misrepresenting his motive for a post. And, you wrote your diatribe AFTER the post in which I conceded I may have been wrong about his motive! This concession is SOLELY based on <Jim>'s reasonable reply. Actions speak louder than words. |
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Sep-07-18
| | jessicafischerqueen:
<The Good Anteater> Yes, I did make this mistake here: <Also, maybe you made the mistake of not finishing all the posts prior to replying yesterday? I've made the same mistake myself at times.> I copied and pasted <Diceman's> post so quickly I didn't even check to see what he might have been reposting. I was too emotional and angry- I should have waited a few minutes (or hours) before posting shotgun style like that. Anyways, thanks to your patience, I now see that I got your overall end of this wrong, and misrepresented your position. I'm sorry about that. I'm also sorry for shouting at you. *face palm* |
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Sep-07-18
 | | OhioChessFan: <tga: Any animus I have towards him is because of his frequent dishonesty on the Rogoff forum. This dishonesty often takes the form of <Jim> misrepresenting his motive for a post.> One word for you: Compartmentalize. |
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Sep-07-18
| | Tabanus: <jess> As I read him, he thinks mankind is basically evil, and that the elections in pre-war Germany were free and fair. He'll fight hard for his views and do whatever it takes to come into power, including with the use of bully box voting. I would not exaggerate my excuse to him. I've now observed several here, quite many in fact, who apparently think they are above the law. They refer to their objective moral values, as they call it, and are inspired by Trump. About 80% of CG kibitzing is now by these rightards. |
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| Sep-07-18 | | Dr Winston OBoogie: I just posted this on the Rogoff page so I'll repost it here.. <Big Pawn is @#$%ed in the head, I think he's in a mental institution and just gets access to a computer a few hours per day.
Jim I'll always take your side <under normal circumstances> but until Sargon gets his @#$% together I'm putting anyone who quotes BP or talks to BP on ignore. That includes Jay-B, HeMateMe, Trav, Rogge, Buro, Zanzy or anyone else for that matter - just so you don't think I'm being nasty to <you personally> but enough is enough. I see he accused me of murder <<again>> today and this has to stop and I want no parts of this weirdo "dark web" Alex Jones mental illness kinda crap.Bob I like you too to say you're a creepy Trump lover but you go on ignore too. I'd rather take a stand than bend over for a @#$%* coward like you. I'm going to email Sargon. He said he'd deal with BP and he hasn't. This is beyond ridiculous now. I <knew> he'd draw creepy Nuno Lisboa in, I <knew> tpstar would join in, I know who the mental patients here are, I just didn't think my so called friends would even respond to <anything> he said... Ever! If Daniel was alive right now I'd post his emails to show you what he thought about BP (who he suspended for 2 months) but I'm not getting involved in this after my next post in the support forum. I'll talk chess, Beatles and Trump until Sargon actually pulls his finger out of his arse. I suggest that everyone who's offended by BP tells Sargon they want their premium membership money back and that way he might do something. BP is a broken person. <JFQ>, <Focus> (1st time I've ever mentioned his name in all this - not having a go just stating a fact) should be embarrassed of themselves. Nuno, Fatstar, Norlito, Inder, Thebadalcaholic, Ploppy, harrylime, and 2 or 3 others I'm forgetting right now are expected to act like @#$%* weirdos.> |
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Sep-07-18
| | Tabanus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-r...
The alt-right movement is gaining ground, also in CG. I'm in Norway, and can only hope that the next US presidential election is free and fair. |
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| Sep-07-18 | | zanzibar: <<Tab> The alt-right movement is gaining ground ...> Well Alex Jones isn't on Facebook, Youtube, or Twitter anymore. https://www.theatlantic.com/technol... So it isn't hopeless! |
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| Sep-07-18 | | Dr Winston OBoogie: Sargon. Leave a message in this forum once you've pulled your finger out of your arse and done something about Big pawn. I've just put alllllllll of the above on ignore, I also want you to give whoever bought me my premium membership their money back - I've got my own money, I don't need a picture next to my username. I'll buy a premium membership for everyone I'm about to mention once you do something about BP. I'll post my ignore list here so those people know they're on ignore.. I've nothing against 75% of them, I really like most of them but it's going on 6 weeks now and you've done nothing about BP. He's accused me of killing Daniel Freeman, not once, not twice but probably a dozen times. The fact I even have to address this is retarded, as is anyone who can't see through BP. All the best. |
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| Sep-07-18 | | Dr Winston OBoogie: <rogge
john barleycorn
jessicafischerqueen
TheFocus
thegoodanarchist
harrylime
MissScarlett
Travis Bickle
saffuna
zanzibar
HeMateMe
tpstar
Nisjesram
cormier
nok
Charlie Durman
Big Pawn>
Wake me up when you wake up :) |
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| Sep-07-18 | | thegoodanarchist: < jessicafischerqueen: <The Good Anteater>
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Anyways, thanks to your patience, I now see that I got your overall end of this wrong, and misrepresented your position. I'm sorry about that. I'm also sorry for shouting at you. *face palm*>
No worries! I've done the same thing - posted something before seeing the end of the conversation. Looks like I was wrong about <JB>'s motive. It happens. Or maybe <tpstar> was right, I'm really not sure. In any event, it seems reasonable to have some mention of the WU chess team in the bio. What the <most reasonable> wording should be is something that I cannot answer at this time. |
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| Sep-07-18 | | thegoodanarchist: <OhioChessFan: <tga: Any animus I have towards him is because of his frequent dishonesty on the Rogoff forum. This dishonesty often takes the form of <Jim> misrepresenting his motive for a post.> One word for you: Compartmentalize.>
Correct! And this is what I preach to others.
I should have done it in my discussion with <saffuna> on this thread, but I did not. Sorry. Fortunately I am reasonable and was influenced by his reply that I previously cited. |
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| Sep-07-18 | | thegoodanarchist: <Tabanus: <jess> As I read him, he thinks mankind is basically evil, and that the elections in pre-war Germany were free and fair. He'll fight hard for his views and do whatever it takes to come into power, including with the use of bully box voting. I would not exaggerate my excuse to him.> You're not getting the job of PR spokesman for me, that's for sure. This entire post is a travesty. If you want to know how to spin, ladies and gents, here is political spin 101. Anyway, search "free and fair" and you will see that <Tabanus> is just making up nonsense. I guess he always dreamed of being a fiction writer... |
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| Sep-07-18 | | Big Pawn: <Winston: Sargon. Leave a message in this forum once you've pulled your finger out of your arse and done something about Big pawn. I've just put alllllllll of the above on ignore> https://i.imgflip.com/2hgq8r.jpg |
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Sep-07-18
| | saffuna: <tga>: <tpstar> said mentioning Webster or Susan Polgar in the bio is "involving themselves in his personal business. " You cannot possibly agree with that.
To be clear, I have never suggested that So's family relationships be included in the bio, as <tpstar> implied. Never. |
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| Sep-07-18 | | Dr Winston OBoogie: ^^^ Check your email Sargon. <That's> how predictable these mental patients are. PS. You've got another on his way. If he even mentions me I'll post his ugly mug, his address, his criminal record and upload three letters that you <really> should read. Wait for it...
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| Sep-07-18 | | Big Pawn: Now <Winston> is trying to give the new <webmaster> a heart attack, like he did (likely) to <Daniel>. He's not happy with one webmaster dropping dead suddenly, no! He's going to stress the next one out too, and <WHO KNOWS> what could happen! Everyone saw him here daily, taunting <Daniel>, calling him a coward, threatening him, dragging him into legal disputes that dragged on forever - and then <Daniel> up and died. When will the <cg> community give <Winston> the tough love he needs? |
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