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Jun-16-11
 | | Domdaniel: Nature trumps everything. Dak wins. Even if it's just a dopamine pump routing serotonin through his brain and stirring his stout cortex to delusions of beauty. Srsly, I always wonder who was the first person to perceive planet Earth as a beautiful thing. Was it the astronauts on the early Apollo missions, the ones who took the 'bluey-white ball' pics? Or did somebody imagine it earlier? Dak 1, Cosmos Kosmos 1. |
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Jun-16-11
 | | OhioChessFan: I took an entry level botany class in my college days. The prof gave us 5 points of observation about the local flora and told us to write a paper about 2 of the points. I have completely forgotten the 5 points, but I picked 2 out and drove to the local state park. It was 75 degrees, whisky pink clouds, driving in my car with the windows down, moon roof open, and a lovely lady beside me. To my eternal shame, in that situation I <did> manage to jot down enough notes to cover one of the 2 points I was supposed to write about. To my credit, I did <stop> at that point and simply enjoyed the rest of the day. And in fact, that is what I wrote up on my paper. I described my observations of point 1 and then segued into "I was going to discuss __________ for my second point, but instead (described the events of the day)" Great man, that prof, and he gave me an A on the paper. |
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Jun-16-11
 | | Domdaniel: <Ohio> As would I. |
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| Jun-17-11 | | dakgootje: heh, I once spoke a physics professor who noted how his students paid a lot more attention to his classes after he had shown a bit of his human-side by talking for an hour about classical music. Ah, it would be nice to sit around and enjoy the weather all day. If I were a rich man.. but then minus the bidi-bidi-bum. |
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Jun-17-11
 | | Domdaniel: Just plant that bidi-bidi-bum on the stump of an old oak tree and watch insects devour each other. Nature red in tooth and claw. Or stay indoors and watch Disney-nature ("Pink in tooth and clipped in claw") on a giant plasma screen. Spoiler: the mammals seem to do well for a while, but the arthropods win in the end. |
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| Jun-17-11 | | achieve: <Dom> Gotcha. Explanation is appreciated, and to be honest I already understood. Risking to spend too many words on this "truce" thing that I actually admired, and still do, I'll keep it simple and repeat what I started with: Gotcha. I admire the effort, regardless of outcome.
<Lemmingfan>? swoosh... zzzziiipp... poof Boring, but we are, again, in agreement.
I can't sign off in the fine fashion you can, so I won't. ;) (hmmm - a smiley as a sign off..?? Doesn't feel right at Frogspawn. I'll improve.) |
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| Jun-17-11 | | dakgootje: Signing off? Why would you? Sure, you can sign off any time you like, but you can never leave! |
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Jun-17-11
 | | Domdaniel: As the ex-manager of that establishment would say, "I'll be back". |
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Jun-17-11
 | | Domdaniel: <Deffi> -- < I still go through my old opening books, not so much for the exact variations but more for the strategy and principles behind them> Bien sur. (Near Big Sur, but healthier).
I find the thing about such books - the good ones - is that they offer a framework for thinking about the opening in question, and seeing how different plans follow naturally from different sub-variations. Sometimes an author can explain this in words - which is a good thing - but it's not absolutely vital. Bellin's 1970s book on the Classical Dutch, for example, is completely dated. Some of his mainlines just aren't played any more, and theory has changed its mind on others. Some lines that he leaves out have become popular. Yet it remains a good book. First, due to a solid intro where he talks about pawn structure, and the type of shape you're committing to by playing ...f5. Occasionally, even structure analysis gets dated -- Bellin tended to play ...fxe4 if White played e4, and most players then (including me) followed suit. More recently, Simon Williams has explored in detail the sharp idea of meeting e4 with ...f4, sometimes sacking a pawn. Intro aside, I find Bellin's layout - his choice of schemes and chapter divisions - simply provides a good way of thinking about the Dutch. Even though I now have other more recent sources, and analysis of my own, Bellin's core framework stands. A whole other area where old books are valuable is in out-of-fashion openings. I have some old books with vast amounts on the King's Gambit and similar Romantic openings. They weren't slouches 100 or 150 years ago: they did some deep digging, much of it now forgotten. It may need a spot of engine checking, but it's useful stuff to have up your sleeve. Actually, I don't trust the King's Gambit. I do, however have a soft spot for the Belgrade Gambit in the Four Knights, Scotch Variation: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.d4 exd4 5.Nd5 ... at least it isn't a *dread Spanish* ... ;) |
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Jun-17-11
 | | Open Defence: well I always felt that those opening books which dwell more on giving variations than explaining the main ideas of the opening and the typical static and dynamic features that arise in its play are more suited for the very strong club or near master level type players and these days you might be better off with databases for that type of an opening compendium I love opening books that explain the ideas behind the opening and when those ideas should typically be executed and also the tactical motifs that could arise One of my favourite opening books is Tactics in the Grunfeld by Gennady Neisis No doubt its out of date in Grunfeld theory given how heavily analysed the opening is, but by studying the games sorted by tactical idea you get a strong grounding in what to look for in a given position and you get a better idea of what lines work and why |
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Jun-17-11
 | | Open Defence: the Spanish never did learn how to enjoy Scotch... |
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Jun-18-11
 | | Domdaniel: <Deffi> One thing I've noticed about "many younger players today" (harumph! old fogey alert!) is that they are only semi-educated in openings. They tend to buy 'repertoire' books and stick to them, playing the same openings over and over. Some are too influenced by the Slav-Spanish repertoire of elite GMs. When I was younger I tried out everything, at least in speed games. I could still switch to a Pirc, Alekhine or Sicilian if I felt like it, and sometimes do. But I've met people who seem entirely ignorant of some of these lines, even to the point of thinking them unsound. Databases have many advantages - as long as you don't take the win/loss stats too seriously, and learn to compare different ones - but there's a lot to be said for a one-volume openings book like MCO. The big gap in my knowledge is the 'open' games - I didn't have a book on 1.e4 e5 as a teenager, though I played the Scotch or Italian sometimes. My basic primers, instead of MCO, were Pachman's series on Indian Defences, Queen's Gambit, and Semi-Open games. Which led in turn to the French vice. The rest you know. I hear Scotch is fashionable in India these days, but Irish whiskey has more bite. |
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| Jun-18-11 | | hms123: <Dom> I still have my copy of Pachman's <Queen's Gambit>. It has a green cover and looks to be the 1964 edition from <Chess Ltd., Sutton Coldfield, England>. It's one of the main reasons I rarely played <1.e4>. |
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Jun-18-11
 | | Domdaniel: <hms> Jinx. Sort of olive green, as I recall. Open Games was blue, and Indian Defences kind of orange-y. I don't have any of 'em left now. But I can remember which Winawer positions had diagrams. Strange. |
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Jun-18-11
 | | Open Defence: depends on where one's strength's lie, i could outcalculate my opponent most times OTB so stuff like the Ruy Open and Grunfeld and later the Marshall attack worked well for me |
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| Jun-18-11 | | dakgootje: <One thing I've noticed about "many younger players today"> I think I qualify for that unto some extend. Sure, I am not many, nor legion - but in some respects I am 'younger'. On the other hand, I can't be classified as a 'player' -- and whether I <am> today?! Lets give half marks - because everything is 50/50. In any ways, I've always said I never studied openings because there were no books which properly explained the ideas behind them. I liked stating them. While obviously the truth is that I couldn't be bothered finding even a semi-decent opening book. Simply develop a bit in the opening - try to win in the middle game without calculating - and otherwise blunder in the endgame. That more or less covers my chess career. |
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Jun-18-11
 | | Annie K.: Very entertaining posts here. :D
<Dom: <I must apologize, though. It's entirely my fault that some non-standard characters turn to garbage on this page. Annie told me how to fix it good, but I only did a semi-competent fast repair job with masking tape.>> Naw, it's not your fault. :) I told you how to clean up the messed-up characters in your profile, but (1) what you did is good enough anyway, and (2) you can't determine the page charset ("character set") through your profile - that's a site setting on one hand, and also depends on every viewer's own encoding settings on their own computer, on the other. I'm actually not sure what charset ceegee uses, since their source code doesn't show it - but it usually works well with UTF-8 or "Western" encodings at my end. Ohwell. Sent you a small eeeeeemail too. ;) Speakina, the reason I haven't published a Ståhlberg video yet is that <Switch> doesn't seem to be pleased with my pronunciation - not of 'Ståhlberg', but of 'Gideon'! ;s Apparently, I am still not saying <YEEEE> convincingly enough. Nobody told me I would need experience acting in class-D horror movies for this job?! ;p |
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| Jun-18-11 | | technical draw: Um, you this guy, <Dom>: User: ddaniell |
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Jun-18-11
 | | Domdaniel: <dak> Whatever works, ja?
I said "many younger players" as I didn't care for alternative formulations -- "young players" alone is too much of a generalization, so I switched to 'younger' to keep it relativistic. Younger than me, younger than the Taj Mahal, younger than Mount Everest, usw. I still needed a qualifier. Certainly not "all younger players" because "all X" can never, ever be true, with no exceptions. "Some younger players" might be too few to register as a bona fide (sic - fide non bona est) trend. It's like a minority government - the 'many' pushes it towards an overall majority but the qualifying 'younger' just holds it in check. Kings hate being held in check but it's necessary in democracies. Americans call it 'checks and balances' then arrest you for having drug paraphernailia - "What's with the weighing scales, sir?" And so on. When you worry at words to the extent I do, you've got a bad case of <Monojuveocaninitis>. You are one sick puppy. Bough wough. |
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| Jun-18-11 | | dakgootje: Ah yes, often it is quite impossible to capture the right meaning in words. You could try, but you could fail. But if trying is failing - why try at all? And then you get headlines like 'Parents condemn underage drinking; teenagers disagree'. Though it would be interesting if everyone was automatically member of numerous unions classifying people. "Nations Union for Jobless Wallflowers has been disappointed in their case for an equal distribution of Cute Girlfriends against defendants United Boyfriends of Cute Girlsfriends. In a statement they proclaimed 'it is not fair..' before running away anxiously from all they attention they got." |
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Jun-18-11
 | | Domdaniel: <tech> Nope, not me. Though I think I've noticed one or two other vaguely similar usernames out there. Maybe they're fans. Or somebody actually called Derek, Diana, Dodi, or Daniel Daniel. And maybe <mack> had quintuplets ... |
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Jun-18-11
 | | Domdaniel: <Annie> Glad to see you're entertained, ma'am. I'm halfway through the second book and the second coffee. Previously, I'd have scoffed at any instant coffee in fine powder form - as a rule, if you can't have the real stuff, granules are better than powder. Maybe granules are insufficiently kosher? Does kosherness even *have* degrees or is it strictly binary? Kosher, treif, haram, halal, nihil obstat, peccavi. 'Normally' I don't like books with SF/magic dragons combined, but hey ... it's a big galaxy, and my 'normal' moments are infrequent. |
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Jun-18-11
 | | Domdaniel: <Deffi> The Marshall and Grunfeld and outcalculating opponents? You're a Fischer Kid at heart, aintcha? I misspent my youth trying to baffle people with Nimzoid moves. I was 45 when I discovered tactics, and I'm still not very good at them. But, weirdly, discovering tactics somehow improved my positional sense, including the ability to make up an opening as you go. Funny old game. |
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Jun-18-11
 | | Annie K.: But, my dear, AFAIK there isn't a single dragon in any of those books, honest! I remembered you don't like'em. Besides, I don't like'em either. ;p Which book have you read already? =)
Granulated coffee can be kosher, and they sell 'Taster's Choice' and suchlike garbage here too, but Nescafe Elite is in a class of its own. ;) And the word "elite" is actually of Hebrew origin, aifinkso. At least, it means the same thing in Hebrew as in English, but in Hebrew it has etymological connections, being directly related to "Al" meaning 'above', or 'up': it simply means, literally, 'superior'. 'Elite', btw, is the name of the factory, not this particular coffee brand. Elite produces mainly sweets and coffees. I can't really vouch for all their products, but I think their instant coffee is superior indeed. :) Oh and yes, kosherness has degrees and types. "We" have kosher for/with milk products and kosher for/with meats; obviously, what is kosher for/with the one type, won't be kosher for/with the other. Then there is kosher parve, which can be eaten with either milk or meat products - mostly vegetables, and wheat stuff. And <then> there is a separate class, "kosher for Passover", which has to be free of wheat and yeast, as well as kosher by whatever other criteria they have. And even that has degrees. Ya don't wanna know. Well, I don't, anyway. :s |
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Jun-18-11
 | | Domdaniel: <Annie> Read 'Steppe' - fine central Asia history, dodgy spaceships. But I already knew something of Uigurs, Kirghiz, etc. There's even an innaresting link to one of Michael 'frozen chosen' Chabon's *other* books, Gentlemen of the Road - which he says he originally wanted to call 'Jews With Swords'. In Chabon's universe, this latter title is inherently hilarious, because Jews didn't *use* swords, so it conjures up visions of Uncle Manny the accountant (oops - sorry, Deffi) swinging from the chandelier with a dirk in his teeth. But of course there wuz swords in Ancient Judea-Samaria (if it existed), there were sword-wielders at Massala, and it's difficult to slay thousands of shibboleth-sayers without edged weapons. And then there were the 10th century CE Khazars. And so on. I'm now onto Zelazny's Jack of Shadows. It has a dragon. A bit part, but still a speaking role. I'd have read them all in two days when I was youngrier, yanno. I suppose Elgebra and Elchemy are Hebrew woids too? |
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