I have to agree with <Niels> about the quality of your post here-

Thank you! And expecially for the new link.

SO NICE TO SEE CHESS IN HERE

Thanks!!

I've been awake almost 24 hours straight from partying downtown- I have to actually start work tomorrow so I'm a little out of it.

I will be adding my 2 cents worth as well.

Oops sorry forgot to answer your question-

My idea is to generate another premium forum to archive web resources about several important historical <Russian Grandmasters>.

I was wondering if you wanted to help out.

Something along the lines of this forum/Profile here-

The players I'm thinking of are the Great Russian Contemporaries of <Bobby> who never actually became World Champion- some of whom actually have equal or even plus records against <Bobby>:

1. Viktor Kortschnoi
2. Efim Geller
3. David Bronstein
4. Paul Keres

I would buy the forum- maybe call it <Russian Grandmasters>?

Anyways, such projects can be helped with minimal time from others.

Notice how many people have helped build this shrine to <Bobby>-

All of the contributers names are listed as you can see.

<Against Bobby>:

<Geller> +2
<Bronstein> -1
<Keres> -1
<Kortschnoi> 0

So <Bobby> overall against these Russian Giants:

0

Geller vs Fischer, 1962

Fischer vs Geller, 1962

Geller vs Fischer, 1965

Fischer vs Geller, 1967

Fischer vs Geller, 1967

In fact, part 2 of the book is <Against World Champions>, which, aside from a couple of draws with Tal, are all his wins against former/current/future WCs (roughly three dozen games). He only had a minus scores against Spassky (the "minus" score against Tal mentioned in the book was "erased" by a couple of games played after the book was published).

Great Russian GMs of the '60s Who Didn't Become World Champion and Fischer's record agains them. Looks like you have it pretty much sewn up above. For what it's worth, here are some lesser lights--Stein, Kholmov, Polugayevsky (who would become a candidate),and, of course, Taimonov. Not in the same league with the above four, but perhaps could be used as background?

Yes- them lesser lights are among the strongest players ever- specially <Polugisdoifsodifuvdsky>---

But the focus is not going to be on <Bobby>- it will be on the "big four" in their own right.

It wasn't <Fischer> who blocked <Kortschnoi> from becoming World Champion. It was other pesky Russian superheroes. Same for the others.

I just think that they are such fantastic players who deserve a web resource archive- I will also get books about and by them to post exerpts from in the forum. And hopefully others will provide such material as well- like they have here in <Bobby's Shrine>.

I'm not sure which <Fischer> Blitz games are recorded- except for these ones:

I look forward to seeing it and I will add it to my Profile as well.>

Thanks <jessicafischerqueen>, surely you will not be disappointed when you see the DVD, it is superb.

Although I think Hort is a little harsh on poor little Karpov -lol- It is hardly his fault he had a lot of government support. No more than any other Soviet Champ anyway.

<My idea is to generate another premium forum to archive web resources about several important historical <Russian Grandmasters>.

I was wondering if you wanted to help out.

Something along the lines of this forum/Profile here->

Sounds like a terribly good idea to me :-) I would love to help out, as a matter of fact I am reviewing the great Korch's games and career right now.

<The players I'm thinking of are the Great Russian Contemporaries of <Bobby> who never actually became World Champion- some of whom actually have equal or even plus records against <Bobby>:>

Yes, this would probably be the most useful, as there is so much on the champs anyway.

People say Fischer-Karpov was a big loss, but I think Fischer-Korch (a match for the title)! would have been amazing as well. The clash of personalities and chess styles would have been even more spectacular imo.

< Here are the stats from our database:

<Against Bobby>:

<Geller> +2
<Bronstein> -1
<Keres> -1
<Kortschnoi> 0

So <Bobby> overall against these Russian Giants:

0

Dead even.>

Megabase 10 has 11 games between Fischer and Geller in it, Fischer scores +4 -5 =2

against Bronstein Fischer scores +1 =3

against Keres +4 -3 = 3

against The Korch...

dam I don't know how to spell the Korch's real name -lol- and I haven't got time to check it up now :-(

Well, that will give me something to be gettin on with at least.

interesting that our database searches have turned up different stats <jessicafischerqueen>, I don't know what is going on there, maybe I am doing something wrong or games are getting duplicated?

many thanks

Larsen vs. Geller: +2 (+5 -3 =9)

Larsen vs. Keres: -2 (+0 -2 =4)

Larsen vs. Korchnoi -2 (+4 -6 =9)

Larsen vs. Bronstein +2 (+3 -1 =4)

Fischer vs Geller, 1967

he writes:

<At that time the "Fischer problem" was undoubtedly not so acute as it was later, but even then it was clear to me that the vulnerable point of the American grandmaster was in double-edged, "hanging", irrational positions. When the play was of this nature, Fischer often failed to find a win even in a won position. It was this that led to the decision to challenge Fischer to a very sharp game, and what's more, in his favorite variation. Players who are clearly devoted to certain opening systems know how unpleasant it can be to "play against oneself" in the purely psychological sense.>

interesting that our database searches have turned up different stats <jessicafischerqueen>, I don't know what is going on there, maybe I am doing something wrong or games are getting duplicated?>

<Big Crawdaddy>- yes, <Geller's> overall appraisal of <Bobby> was a lot more critical than that of most of his other comrades in arms.

I'm very happy you have been contributing two days in a row now...

There's a bunch of new redoubtable fellows like <Howard> and <Big Crawdaddy> around who will appreciate your expertise and uproarious humor.

(Bill- or WMD as he like to call himself, as you can see- is also a University Professor like some of you other smarty pantzes)

yeah that is making good sense to me, thanks <jessicafischerqueen> and co. stats was never my strongest subject tbh, but to be out-smarted by a dog?

The shame... :-(

Actually do you mind if I shorten your name a bit, can I call you <jessica>? or perhaps borrow some of your artistry and shorten that even further to <Bobby> ;-)

I found out how to spell The Korch properly btw, well like a chess fan with moderate reading comprehension levels anyway, it is <Kortschnoj> according to the chessbase stuff.

I'm watching his 'Chess is my life' DVD. He's hilarious, rocking around in his chair waving his arms about like a man a 10th of his age.

:)

The Korch loves his chess :-)>

Malcolm - in that case you'll just *luv* this TV advertisment where GM Viktor Korchnoi is defeated by a cow (yes, I just said <'cow'> ~lol~) named "Lovely" in a very important Chess game... She does play such a lovely game of CHESS! :P

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...

Got milk? Moooooooooooooooo! :D

All the Best, - Mal

PS: I've been spelling GM Viktor Korchnoi name as <Viktor Korchnoi> since 1962! ~lol~ <grin> We'd better wait till we get the word directly from <DCP23> as to how he thinks it should be so spelled! ;) Here's one of my favorite pics of Viktor:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...

Gotta luv those sexy shades. Da man's got style! ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...