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lostemperor
Member since Feb-18-03 · Last seen Feb-02-25
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<FINAL STANDINGS PREDICTIONS' CONTEST FORUM>

Predict the final standings of Tata Steel tournament January 12

Format example to post your predictions

1.Caruana
1. Erigaisi
3. Gukesh
4. Abdusattorov
5. Wei Yi
5. Harikrishna
5. Praggnanandhaa
8. Giri
9. Keymer
10. Fedoseev
11.Van Foreest
12. Sarina
12. Warmerdam
12. Mendonca

Good Luck!


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Some years ago I came up with a new but simple system to calculate the final standings of a tournament including all players. This is how it goes:

For each correct standing you'll get a maximum amount of points. Each prediction deviation from the actual player standing in the tournament, will deduct one point from your total (ABSOLUTE RANKER).

In case of a shared player's standing the average standing counts (both actual and in your predictions).

The SQUARE RANKER, squares your predictions' deviations. Here only medals are awarded if the winner s is not the same person s as in the absolute ranker.

Same goes for the The PAIR BETTING RANKER compare all possible pair outcomes of the tournament participants.

The three best predictions will get Real Virtual Gold Silver and Bronze!

Note: only one set of medals is awarded (in the absolute ranker) unless another ranker produces a different winner.

Special thanks to <YouRang> who made a software to calculate these numbers.

Our new contest manager for game results prediction User: Golden Executive during the tournament also ([1-0], [1/2], [0-1])!

or predict the # of moves in User: ohiochessfan organized by <chessmoron>

Enjoy!


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<HALL <OF> FAME>

WannaBe 10♔ 5♕ 4♖

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♔♔♔♔♔ ♔♔♔♕♕♕♕♖♖♖♖SwitchingQuylthulg

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♔♔♔♔♔♕♕♕♕♕♖♖♖YouRang

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♔♔♔♔♕♕♕♖Aurora
♔♔♔♔♕♕♖suenteus po 147
♔♔♔♔♖♖♖Penguincw

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♔♔♔♕♕♕♖♖♖lostemperor
♔♔♔♕♕♖♖♖♖♖chessmoron
♔♔♔♕♕♖♖♖rogge
♔♔♔♕♕♖cromat
♔♔♔♕♖Robin01
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♔♔♕♕♕♕WinKing
♔♔♕♕♕♖percyblakeney
♔♔♕♖♖♖yalie
♔♔♕♖wordfunph
♔♔♕♖Ragh
♔♔♕♖Ezzy
♔♔Golden Executive
♔♔SloVice
♔♔positionalgenius
♔♔amadeus

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♔♕♕♕♕♖♖OhioChessFan
♔♕♕♖Diademas
♔♕♖nimh
♔♕♖ahmadov
♔♕♖CHESSBOOKIE
♔♕Keysersoze
♔♕Where is my mind
♔♕Appaz
♔♖♖moronovich*
♔♖Golden Executive*
♔♖Montreal1666
♔♖Troewa

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♔Beholder
♔juan31
♔wtwz
♔Twinlark
♔SoUnwiseTheKnight B4
♔NGambit
♔benjinathan
♔DCP23
♔firebyrd
♔kellmano
♔Stonehenge
♔cu8sfan
♔larrewl
♔babakova
♔djmercury
♔mikejaqua
♔Joshka,
♔SnoopDogg
♔Like a GM

*may be incomplete

♔ Gold
♕ Silver
♖ Bronze


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   lostemperor has kibitzed 7712 times to chessgames   [more...]
   Feb-02-25 lostemperor chessforum (replies)
 
lostemperor: <Keyser Soze>,<0ZeR0>,<Penguincw> won gold each! Congratulations!
 
   Apr-20-24 Golden Executive chessforum (replies)
 
lostemperor: It is fixed! I had an expert looking at it.
 
   Jan-18-24 OhioChessFan chessforum (replies)
 
lostemperor: Betcha you. Right damn
 
   Jan-11-24 Tata Steel Masters (2024) (replies)
 
lostemperor: ♔♕♖ Announcement ♔♕♖ Join the annual Tata Teel Chess final standings prediction contest at lostemperor chessforum 1. Ding 2. Nepomniachtchi 3. Firouzja 4, Giri 5. Praggnanandhaa 6. Maghsoodloo 7. Vidit 8.Wei 9. Abdusattorov
 
   Feb-26-23 WR Chess Masters (2023) (replies)
 
lostemperor: The predictions' winners on the final standings of WR Chess on my forum <Penquincw>♔, <Golden Executive>♔, <Chesschronicle22>♕, <OhioChessFan>♕, <Messiah>♖
 
   Jan-30-23 Tata Steel Masters (2023) (replies)
 
lostemperor: Winners of the TATA STEEL CHESS 2023 FINAL STANDINGS PREDICTION'S CONTEST at my forum <Firouzjias>♔♔♖, <tuttifrutty>♔♕♖, <lostemperor>♕♕, <Messiah>♖
 
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FINAL STANDINGS PREDICTIONS

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 104 OF 285 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Mar-19-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Right:)

<<This is what came out of round 7 (by heart)>

Actual standings:
1. Aronian
2. Carlsen
3. Anand
4. Grischuk
5. Ivanchuk
5. Topalov
7. Karjakin
7. Gelfand
7. Gashimov
10. Nakamura
11. Kramnik
12. Giri>

Mar-19-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Predition standings
<ABSOLUTE RANKER>

Score,UserID
52,cromat
48,lostemperor
48,YouRang
44,rogge
42,Aurora
41,SwitchingQuylthulg
41,wordfunph
39,moronovich
37,Penguincw
33,Ragh
28,OhioChessFan
28,WannaBe

Mar-19-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <SQUARE RANKER>

Score,UserID
527,cromat
487,YouRang
472,lostemperor
462,SwitchingQuylthulg
448,rogge
448,wordfunph
432,moronovich
421,Penguincw
413,Ragh
411,Aurora
379,OhioChessFan
354,WannaBe

Mar-19-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <PAIR BETTING RANKER>

Earnings in$,UserID
46.60,cromat
9.73,OhioChessFan
8.07,YouRang
0.81,lostemperor
-0.62,rogge
-2.53,wordfunph
-2.55,SwitchingQuylthulg
-4.88,Aurora
-8.61,moronovich
-9.36,Ragh
-18.16,WannaBe
-18.51,Penguincw

Mar-19-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Sorry about that pair betting place <Penguincw>. I know you'll be back;) Four rounds to go!
Mar-19-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: Uh.. :(
Mar-19-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Statistics: Average predictions

AvgRnk,Player,Highest predictionRank,LowestP

2.42,Carlsen,1.0,6.0
2.63,Anand,1.0,6.0
3.08,Aronian,1.0,5.0
4.83,Kramnik,1.0,8.5
5.75,Ivanchuk,1.0,9.0
5.75,Nakamura,3.0,9.0
6.29,Topalov,3.0,10.0
7.75,Karjakin,2.0,11.0
8.21,Grischuk,6.0,10.5
9.96,Gelfand,7.0,12.0
10.38,Giri,8.0,12.0
10.96,Gashimov,8.0,12.0

Mar-19-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Kramnik does worse also as far as deviation in predictions and actual standings is concerned followed by Nakamura. Grischuk does best.

Deviations per player:
Deviation,Player
74,Kramnik
51,Nakamura
51,Grischuk
36,Gashimov
30,Topalov
28,Gelfand
25,Aronian
22,Karjakin
20,Giri
18,Ivanchuk
18,Anand
13,Carlsen

Mar-20-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  WannaBe: I'm in last place, woo!!! I can't wait for my ♙ award!!
Mar-20-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: < WannaBe: I'm in last place, woo!!! I can't wait for my award!! >

I'm in last.

Mar-21-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Here the expectations according to ELO the ratings. I took the live ratings after Tata steel tournament of our man Frogbert http://chess.liverating.org/ (A difference of 5 rating points should be the same rankings)

1. Anand
1. Carlsen
3. Aronian
4. Kramnik
5. Ivanchuk
5. Karjakin
5. Topalov
5. Nakamura
9.Gashimove
10. Grischuk
11. Gelfand
12. Giri

Mar-21-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Here the rankings according to the <CHESSBOOKIE> odds of the chessgames.com Bookie game. The complete players' betting odds see Amber Combined: Winner

1. Carlsen
2. Anand
3. Aronian
4. Kramnik
5. Ivanchuk
6. Topalov
7. Nakamura
8. Grischuk
9. Karjakin
10. Giri
11. Gelfand
12. Gashimov

Mar-21-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <<<ROUND 8 UPDATE>

AMBER BLINDFOLD/RAPID TOURNAMENT 2011>

standings:
1. Aronian
2. Carlsen
3. Anand
3. Ivanchuk
5. Grischuk
5. Gashimov
7. Nakamura
7. Topalov
9. Gelfand
9. Karjakin
11. Giri
12. Kramnik>

Mar-21-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: PREDICTION STANDINGS 8

<ABSOLUTE RANKER>

Score,UserID
46,YouRang
45,cromat
45,SwitchingQuylthulg
44,CHESSBOOKIE
44,rogge
42,Aurora
42,lostemperor
42,moronovich
41,ELO
39,Penguincw
39,wordfunph
33,Ragh
29,OhioChessFan
25,WannaBe

Mar-21-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <SQUARE RANKER>

Score,UserID
482,YouRang
481,cromat
477,SwitchingQuylthulg
447,rogge
446,lostemperor
446,moronovich
444,CHESSBOOKIE
444,ELO
424,Penguincw
417,wordfunph
403,Ragh
401,Aurora
367,OhioChessFan
310,WannaBe

Mar-21-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <PAIR BETTING RANKER>

Earnings in $,UserID
37.32,cromat
26.43,rogge
3.98,YouRang
2.84,Aurora
2.64,OhioChessFan
-1.01,SwitchingQuylthulg
-3.07,lostemperor
-3.29,moronovich
-3.41,ELO
-3.45,wordfunph
-4.24,CHESSBOOKIE
-9.92,Ragh
-19.16,Penguincw
-25.65,WannaBe

Mar-21-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Large Payoff Pair results:
Payoff,Pair result,Winners
$14.00,Anand-equal-Ivanchuk, rogge

$14.00,Gelfand-above-Kramnik, cromat

$14.00,Gelfand-equal-Karjakin, rogge

$14.00,Grischuk-above-Nakamura, cromat

$14.00,Karjakin-above-Kramnik, OhioChessFan

$7.00,Gashimov-equal-Grischuk, lostemperor + rogge

$7.00,Grischuk-above-Kramnik, cromat + YouRang

$7.00,Grischuk-above-Topalov, OhioChessFan + SwitchingQuylthulg

$7.00,Nakamura-equal-Topalov, Aurora + ELO

$4.67,Aronian-above-Carlsen, Aurora + moronovich + WannaBe

$4.67,Gashimov-above-Gelfand, Aurora + ELO + lostemperor

$3.50,Ivanchuk-above-Kramnik, cromat + moronovich + SwitchingQuylthulg + YouRang

$3.50,Kramnik-below-Nakamura, moronovich + OhioChessFan + Ragh + YouRang

$3.50,Kramnik-below-Topalov, cromat + Ragh + wordfunph + YouRang

Mar-21-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <YouRang> manages to take pole position again in the ABSOLUTE and SQUARE ranker! But it is just too close too call. <cromat> holds the lead in the PAIR BETTINGS. <WannaBe> wins the battle of the bottom seed and is on top if he holds his screen upside down as he once suggested ;) Three more double rounds to go!
Mar-21-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: Oh darn it.I want the award. :(
Mar-22-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Talk about putting the screen upside down, something I wanted to do but often forget. Back again to the average predictions (now included are ELO and CHESSBOOKIE)

Rank,AvgRnk,Player
1. 2.25,Carlsen
2. 2.50,Anand
3. 3.07,Aronian
4. 4.71,Kramnik
5. 5.75,Ivanchuk,
6. 5.89,Nakamura,
7. 6.29,Topalov,
8. 7.75,Karjakin
9. 8.32,Grischuk
10. 10.11,Gelfand
11. 10.46,Giri
12. 10.89,Gashimov

Mar-22-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Which brings us to:

Preditions that differs most from the average predictions ( the bold, the brave and the fools :))! By simply turning the table upside down we see who made what predictions that differs most from the average predictions. As we can see, CHESSBOOKIE is, perhaps not surprisingly, most in line with the average predictions. That of <SwitchingQuylthulg>, <OhioChessFan>, <cromat> are the most off-beat/unorthodox ones. See here the results:

♗♘♙<THE MOST OFF-BEAT/UNORTHODOX PREDICTIONS>♗♘♙

Absolute
(Maximum score is 72)

Score,UserID
49,SwitchingQuylthulg
49,OhioChessFan
49,cromat
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50,WannaBe
53,Ragh
54,rogge
56,YouRang
56,wordfunph
56,moronovich
57,lostemperor
57,Aurora
61,ELO
63,Penguincw
65,CHESSBOOKIE

Mar-22-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: If we look at the square ranker the results are slightly different. Here the 5 most unorthodox:

Least Squares of rank deviation
Maximum score: 572

503,WannaBe
503,OhioChessFan
503,cromat
504,SwitchingQuylthulg
524,Ragh

Mar-22-11  rogge: Cool stats :) Go Kramnik, I'm still hoping for a prize!
Mar-22-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: Yay.I get the high score. :)
Mar-23-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <<<ROUND 9 UPDATE>

AMBER BLINDFOLD/RAPID TOURNAMENT 2011>

standings:
1. Aronian 13
2. Carlsen 12
3. Anand 9½
Grischuk 9½
Ivanchuk 9½
6. Gashimov 9
7. Nakamura 8½
Topalov 8½
9. Gelfand 8
Karjakin 8
11. Giri 6½
12. Kramnik >

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