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| Jul-23-06 | | Where is my mind: Predictions for Biel:
1.Morozevich
2.Radjabov
3.Carlsen
4-5.Volokitin,Bruzon
6.Pelletier
Thanks<lostemperor>
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| Jul-24-06 | | suenteus po 147: My predictions for Biel:
1. Morozevich
2. Radjabov
3. Volokitin
4. Pelletier
5. Carlsen
6. Bruzon |
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| Jul-26-06 | | Dim Weasel: Dortmund prediction:
1. Aronian
2. Svidler
3. Kramnik
4. Adams
5. Jobava
6. Leko
7. Naiditsch
8. Gelfand
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| Jul-26-06 | | positionalgenius: my dortmund prediction:
1.Aronian
2.Kramnik
3.Adams
4.Leko
5.Gelfand
6.Svidler
7.Naiditsch
8.Jobava |
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Jul-28-06
 | | lostemperor: Revised predictions for Dortmund. A better gamble I hope:) 1. Adams
1. Leko
1. Kramnik
4. Gelfand
4. Svidler
6. Aronian (?)
7. Jobava
8. Naiditsch |
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| Jul-28-06 | | TechN9ne: Predictions for Dortmund:
1. Kramnik
2. Aronian
3. Leko
3. Gelfand
5. Adams
6. Svidler
7. Jobava
8. Naiditsch
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Jul-29-06
| | lostemperor: Here, by popular demand, the predictionrankings on final standings of Biel 2006 HALFWAY the tournament :). Maximum 36 points. Let me know if there are errors. 36 points: DCP23, saturn, YouRang
35 points: Where is my mind
34 points: Dionyseus, larrewl, you vs yourself
33 points: TIMER
32 points: acirce, cromat, iron maiden, Joshka, Legend, mikejaqua, Montreal1666, percyblakeney, Robin01, s4life, samsal27, theArtist 30 points: CarlsenRocks, Chess Classics, cu8sfan, lostemperor, suenteus po 147, Tassadar, wallytherhino 29 points: rustamrocks
28 points: alexmagnus, Ezzy, Katrina, SNiraj, WannaBe
27 points: stevenjg
26 points: arses, Jafar219 |
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| Jul-29-06 | | TIMER: <lostemperor> Do you now count 3-5 as 3s rather than 4s? Taking that into account I probably would have predicted 3 Carlsen 4-5 Bruzon, Volokitin, as I would have wanted them to be measured against 4, and give Carlsen the edge. However I am surprised I am only 8th with near perfect prediction at half time, maybe it is rather predictable order so far! |
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Jul-29-06
| | lostemperor: <TIMER> yes I have posted after the Linares tournament that from then on, in case of shared standings, the highest standing counts. That is because <YouRang>'s fine CONMAN softeware, calculates it that way. It's a bit of a pity since I favor the "average standing" I use to calculate before. For instance in my Dortmund predictions I like to have a second place (average) for Leko, Adams and Kramnik, and no first place for me. But than I have to calculate all predictions manually. And that is bit too much. Especially now there is a software calculating help :) |
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| Jul-29-06 | | aw1988: <lostemperor> I disagree strenuously with your doomsday prediction of the computers as laid out by your profile. Kasparov put game 6 down to nerves. |
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| Jul-29-06 | | NakoSonorense: You forgot my predictions, lostemperor. :( |
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Jul-30-06
| | lostemperor: Yes, sorry <NakoSonorense>. What happened was that I deleted your Dortmund predictions for this Biel tournament but also your name in the process. You have 34 points so far! |
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Jul-30-06
| | lostemperor: <aw1988> about the doomsday. We now live in an age where machines rules. In chess, in particular, the computer is regarded superior to men, whether or not true, especially after the Deep Blue match. I call that a doomsday scenario but maybe some call it a blessing. <Kasparov put game 6 down to nerves> the chanches of that being the case is very small. In his whole career Kasparov never suffered such a foolish loss. If you see the "game over DVD" Kasparov admitted that he did not want to win or draw the last game! Can you believe that! Of course he did not admit of selling the the game but that is one very logical conclusion one can make. My opinion is Kasparov was promised extra stock percentage, lots of money of the expected and already made stockgains, to lose that last game. |
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| Jul-30-06 | | aw1988: <he did not want to win or draw the last game!> Can you provide a quote? It seems very strange. |
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Jul-31-06
| | lostemperor: I will. Give me some time to find the DVD. Kasparov was very explicit about it. Btw. I'm not against chesscomputers. On the contrary as I have said several times before! I admire the strength of today's chessprograms. Also I'm in favor of men vs machine competition. But the battle should be done with fair play. |
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| Jul-31-06 | | aw1988: Fair play is what then? |
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Aug-01-06
| | lostemperor: I have a whole list for fair play even against a computer where fair play is in theory impossible. I may come up with that later. I've written some of them in the Adams vs Hydra games. For one thing a match where the machine knows everything about it's human opponent and the human knows practically nothing about the computer he/she is playing is an unfair and uneven balance. A second thing is that the computer has access to all databases it needs. So its human opponent should be given that opportunity also. Btw. I found Kasparov unashamed remarks about his last loss against Deep Blue. I'll get back on that. |
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| Aug-01-06 | | aw1988: <and the human knows practically nothing about the computer he/she is playing is an unfair and uneven balance.> If such exists, it would be quite rare. I'm not sure what it all applies to, but for example, Fritz, Junior, the players were given a similar version of the program to get the basic style of play down of the machine. I've anticipated the question: "but it's not the same version". Yes, but is the human ever the same? Yes, Junior can prepare novelties against Kasparov, but is Kasparov not allowed creating novelties against Junior? <A second thing is that the computer has access to all databases it needs.> Opening databases? As does the human. We call this theory. |
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Aug-01-06
| | lostemperor: I was talking about supercomputers like Deep Blue and Hydra who prepare months for their opponents while the players of flesh and blood have almost no information. <<A second thing is that the computer has access to all databases it needs.>Opening databases? As does the human. We call this theory.> I mean during the game. The programs have continuous access to opening's databases/ theory. |
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| Aug-01-06 | | aw1988: Yes, but a player of, say, Kasparov's stature (Kasparov practically invented opening prep!) is unlikely to just forget lines. I'm unaware of the Deep Blue situation, but I do know Hydra is now out in the open. It is a different matter, however, whether it is now using 128 processors. |
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| Aug-02-06 | | YouRang: <lostemperor> Do you have an average standings report for Dortmund? |
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Aug-03-06
| | lostemperor: <YouRang> I till now only make a halfway report in a double round robin tournament after a one round robin. Although Dortmund is a shrt tournament it's a good idea. Only I have the Biel predictions in the Bielstand text and YRC. So maybe till this evening (EST:). |
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Aug-03-06
| | lostemperor: <aw1988: Yes, but a player of, say, Kasparov's stature (Kasparov practically invented opening prep!) is unlikely to just forget lines.> Right! He didn't forget. By his own admission: He didn't want to play. He didn't care. He didn't wanted to try to even draw! "What happened in game 6, I mean there was no game. I just didn't want to play and I didn't want to face these guys. You know , I didn't I didn't care. I only thought, ok if I just play for a draw, if I try to make a draw and we end up at 3-3, I have to shake their hands (put an ugly face). I have to smile. And it's, I don't, it's .. I just want to get it, you know, off my back" |
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| Aug-03-06 | | TIMER: <lostemperor> Yes I remember- Kasparov beat Deep Blue in the first game, it played like a computer still. Then, to Kasparov's surprise, it improved and played some very human moves in later games, contradicting how it played earlier. This made Kasparov very suspicious that cheating was going on, and by the last game he just didn't want to be there. |
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| Aug-03-06 | | YouRang: <lostemperor> Sorry, I didn't express my question well -- I meant the report that shows the average rank for each player based on all of the final standings predictions that have been entered. Something like: 1.72 Aronian
3.11 Kramnik
3.54 Adams
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