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lostemperor
Member since Feb-18-03 · Last seen Feb-02-25
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<FINAL STANDINGS PREDICTIONS' CONTEST FORUM>

Predict the final standings of Tata Steel tournament January 12

Format example to post your predictions

1.Caruana
1. Erigaisi
3. Gukesh
4. Abdusattorov
5. Wei Yi
5. Harikrishna
5. Praggnanandhaa
8. Giri
9. Keymer
10. Fedoseev
11.Van Foreest
12. Sarina
12. Warmerdam
12. Mendonca

Good Luck!


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Some years ago I came up with a new but simple system to calculate the final standings of a tournament including all players. This is how it goes:

For each correct standing you'll get a maximum amount of points. Each prediction deviation from the actual player standing in the tournament, will deduct one point from your total (ABSOLUTE RANKER).

In case of a shared player's standing the average standing counts (both actual and in your predictions).

The SQUARE RANKER, squares your predictions' deviations. Here only medals are awarded if the winner s is not the same person s as in the absolute ranker.

Same goes for the The PAIR BETTING RANKER compare all possible pair outcomes of the tournament participants.

The three best predictions will get Real Virtual Gold Silver and Bronze!

Note: only one set of medals is awarded (in the absolute ranker) unless another ranker produces a different winner.

Special thanks to <YouRang> who made a software to calculate these numbers.

Our new contest manager for game results prediction User: Golden Executive during the tournament also ([1-0], [1/2], [0-1])!

or predict the # of moves in User: ohiochessfan organized by <chessmoron>

Enjoy!


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<HALL <OF> FAME>

WannaBe 10♔ 5♕ 4♖

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♔♔♔♔♔ ♔♔♔♕♕♕♕♖♖♖♖SwitchingQuylthulg

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♔♔♔♔♔♕♕♕♕♕♖♖♖YouRang

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♔♔♔♔♕♕♕♖Aurora
♔♔♔♔♕♕♖suenteus po 147
♔♔♔♔♖♖♖Penguincw

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♔♔♔♕♕♕♖♖♖lostemperor
♔♔♔♕♕♖♖♖♖♖chessmoron
♔♔♔♕♕♖♖♖rogge
♔♔♔♕♕♖cromat
♔♔♔♕♖Robin01
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♔♔♕♕♕♕WinKing
♔♔♕♕♕♖percyblakeney
♔♔♕♖♖♖yalie
♔♔♕♖wordfunph
♔♔♕♖Ragh
♔♔♕♖Ezzy
♔♔Golden Executive
♔♔SloVice
♔♔positionalgenius
♔♔amadeus

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♔♕♕♕♕♖♖OhioChessFan
♔♕♕♖Diademas
♔♕♖nimh
♔♕♖ahmadov
♔♕♖CHESSBOOKIE
♔♕Keysersoze
♔♕Where is my mind
♔♕Appaz
♔♖♖moronovich*
♔♖Golden Executive*
♔♖Montreal1666
♔♖Troewa

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♔Beholder
♔juan31
♔wtwz
♔Twinlark
♔SoUnwiseTheKnight B4
♔NGambit
♔benjinathan
♔DCP23
♔firebyrd
♔kellmano
♔Stonehenge
♔cu8sfan
♔larrewl
♔babakova
♔djmercury
♔mikejaqua
♔Joshka,
♔SnoopDogg
♔Like a GM

*may be incomplete

♔ Gold
♕ Silver
♖ Bronze


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   lostemperor has kibitzed 7712 times to chessgames   [more...]
   Feb-02-25 lostemperor chessforum (replies)
 
lostemperor: <Keyser Soze>,<0ZeR0>,<Penguincw> won gold each! Congratulations!
 
   Apr-20-24 Golden Executive chessforum (replies)
 
lostemperor: It is fixed! I had an expert looking at it.
 
   Jan-18-24 OhioChessFan chessforum (replies)
 
lostemperor: Betcha you. Right damn
 
   Jan-11-24 Tata Steel Masters (2024) (replies)
 
lostemperor: ♔♕♖ Announcement ♔♕♖ Join the annual Tata Teel Chess final standings prediction contest at lostemperor chessforum 1. Ding 2. Nepomniachtchi 3. Firouzja 4, Giri 5. Praggnanandhaa 6. Maghsoodloo 7. Vidit 8.Wei 9. Abdusattorov
 
   Feb-26-23 WR Chess Masters (2023) (replies)
 
lostemperor: The predictions' winners on the final standings of WR Chess on my forum <Penquincw>♔, <Golden Executive>♔, <Chesschronicle22>♕, <OhioChessFan>♕, <Messiah>♖
 
   Jan-30-23 Tata Steel Masters (2023) (replies)
 
lostemperor: Winners of the TATA STEEL CHESS 2023 FINAL STANDINGS PREDICTION'S CONTEST at my forum <Firouzjias>♔♔♖, <tuttifrutty>♔♕♖, <lostemperor>♕♕, <Messiah>♖
 
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FINAL STANDINGS PREDICTIONS

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 83 OF 285 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Nov-05-09  zarg: 1.Carlsen
2.Aronian
3.Kramnik
4.Svidler
5.Anand
6.Gelfand
7.Ivanchuk
8.Leko
9.Morozevich
10.Ponomariov
Nov-05-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <corbulo> you missed Big Boris Gelfand! Can you post his ranking still.
Nov-05-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <corbulo> since you forgot him I will put Gelfand 10th at your predictions.
Nov-05-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: ROUND 1. All games drawn! make the following special standings after round 1 (in random order):

1. Anand
1. Aronian
1. Carlsen
1. Kramnik
1. Leko
1. Ivanchuk
1. Gelfand
1. Morozevich
1. Svidler
1. Ponomariov

Everyone shared first/last!

Nov-05-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: PREDICTION RANKINGS AFTER ROUND 1

Nothing much to say in the predictions'rankings except that after these rare result <SwitchingQuylthulg> drew first blood!

Score evaluation method: Absolute value of rank deviation Maximum score: 50

Score,UserID
34,SwitchingQuylthulg
29,kellmano
26,DCP23
26,firebyrd
26,jessicafischerqueen
26,lostemperor
26,moronovich
26,nimh
26,OhioChessFan
26,Ragh
26,SloVice
26,suenteus po 147
26,Thorski
26,yalie
25,Aurora
25,chancho
25,CHESSBOOKIE
25,chessmoron
25,corbulo
25,ELO
25,Ezzy
25,Jafar219
25,NakoSonorense
25,offramp
25,positionalgenius
25,Robin01
25,rogge
25,TheGladiatres
25,Where is my mind
25,Winter
25,YouRang
25,zarg

Nov-05-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: The big money winners after round 1 in the PAIR BETTING RANKER:

Earnings$,UserID
207.97,SwitchingQuylthulg
100.47,corbulo
89.34,lostemperor
52.73,suenteus po 147
50.14,DCP23
28.73,kellmano
17.57,Thorski
13.80,yalie
11.70,Ragh
10.14,jessicafischerqueen
10.07,firebyrd
-4.87,SloVice
-11.53,Aurora
-12.33,Robin01
-13.93,TheGladiatres
-16.52,moronovich
-17.36,Where is my mind
-17.63,ELO
-17.63,offramp
-19.27,nimh
-32.60,OhioChessFan
-39.00,chancho
-39.00,CHESSBOOKIE
-39.00,chessmoron
-39.00,Ezzy
-39.00,Jafar219
-39.00,NakoSonorense
-39.00,positionalgenius
-39.00,rogge
-39.00,Winter
-39.00,YouRang
-39.00,zarg

Large Payoff Pair results:
Payoff,Pair result,Winners
$32.00,Anand-equal-Leko, SwitchingQuylthulg

$32.00,Anand-equal-Morozevich, Thorski

$32.00,Aronian-equal-Carlsen, corbulo

$32.00,Aronian-equal-Ponomariov, suenteus po 147

$32.00,Carlsen-equal-Gelfand, suenteus po 147

$32.00,Carlsen-equal-Ivanchuk, corbulo

$32.00,Carlsen-equal-Svidler, DCP23

$32.00,Gelfand-equal-Kramnik, SwitchingQuylthulg

Nov-06-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: The funny but interesting PAIR BETTINGS look at every possible pair of players in the tournament. So if Gelfand finishes ahead of Aronian and you are the only one to predict this correctly, you will get $1 from every participant. There must be 39 possible pairs in this tournament.

Since every one shares first place in Moscow after the first round you will have only losses if you didn't have shared rankings in your predictions. Things can be totally different after today's round I suppose.

This looks a bit like the Betting Ranker in <YouRang>'s Prediction Contest. What is not so surprising since he came up this Pair Betting idea!:)

Nov-06-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: A detail is that virtual contestant ELO (the live ratings of October 21 as given) and CHESSBOOKIE do participate as real persons, in the Pair Bettings. Hopefully they are not so unorthodox in their expectations as to take away money in case you have a "jackpot". For the platform these virtual contestants can only get honourary medals however.
Nov-06-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <CHESSBOOKIE> is the betting odds order of the ChessBookie game:

1. Carlsen
2. Anand
3. Kramnik
4. Aronian
5. Ivanchuk
6. Morozevich
7. Leko
8. Svidler
9. Ponomariov
10. Gelfand

For the exact odds check Tal Memorial: Winner. A detail here; in the leaderboard of the Bookie Game <SwitchingQuylthulg> happens to be leading with 13,341 chess bucks:)

Nov-06-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: The average predictions here:

AvgRnk,Player,HighestRank,LowestRank
2.22,Carlsen,1.0,10.0
2.97,Aronian,1.0,7.0
3.42,Kramnik,1.0,6.0
3.48,Anand,1.5,8.5
6.34,Ivanchuk,2.0,10.0
6.55,Morozevich,1.0,10.0
6.81,Leko,3.0,10.0
6.91,Svidler,2.5,10.0
7.45,Gelfand,2.5,10.0
8.84,Ponomariov,6.0,10.0

Enjoy the tournament and the contest all, especially those who participate!

Nov-06-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <ROUND 2 UPDATE> All games drawn again! Everything stays the same :)
Nov-06-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Gives me opportunity to post the SQUARE RANKER I'have been saving for another drawn day :-) This is if your predictions deviations is squared.

<SQUARE RANKER AFTER 2 ROUNDS>:

Score evaluation method: Least Squares of rank deviation Maximum score: 330

Score,UserID
276,SwitchingQuylthulg
265,lostemperor
258,corbulo
254,DCP23
253,kellmano
252,Ragh
251,jessicafischerqueen
251,SloVice
251,suenteus po 147
251,Thorski
251,yalie
250,Aurora
250,ELO
250,firebyrd
250,moronovich
250,offramp
249,nimh
249,Robin01
249,TheGladiatres
249,Where is my mind
248,chancho
248,CHESSBOOKIE
248,chessmoron
248,Ezzy
248,Jafar219
248,NakoSonorense
248,OhioChessFan
248,positionalgenius
248,rogge
248,Winter
248,YouRang
248,zarg

Nov-06-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: Hey, I'm just like Carlsen. Tied for last!.
Nov-07-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Well Carlsen is not last anymore now :)
Nov-07-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Three decisive games today!

Round 3:
Morozevich - Kramnik 0-1
Gelfand - Carlsen 1/2
Aronian - Leko 1-0
Ivanchuk - Ponomariov 1/2
Anand - Svidler 1-0

Nov-07-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <ROUND 3> standings:

1-3 Anand
1-3 Aronian
1-3 Kramnik
4-7 Carlsen
4-7 Gelfand
4-7 Ivanchuk
4-7 Ponomariov
8-10 Leko
8-10 Morozevich
8-10 Svidler

Nov-07-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <TAL MEMORIAL PREDICTION STANDINGS ROUND 3>

The initiative for <Ezzy> and <suenteus po 147> Score evaluation method: Absolute value of rank deviation Maximum score: 50

Score,UserID
38,Ezzy
38,suenteus po 147
37,yalie
32,lostemperor
32,Winter
32,YouRang
31,chancho
31,firebyrd
30,OhioChessFan
29,Aurora
29,Ragh
29,rogge
29,SwitchingQuylthulg
29,zarg
28,CHESSBOOKIE
28,chessmoron
28,corbulo
28,ELO
28,nimh
28,offramp
28,Where is my mind
27,positionalgenius
25,NakoSonorense
25,TheGladiatres
24,moronovich
23,SloVice
19,kellmano
18,Thorski
17,jessicafischerqueen
15,DCP23
14,Jafar219
14,Robin01

Nov-07-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: PAIR BETTING RANKER:

Earnings,UserID
78.33,suenteus po 147
48.39,corbulo
22.09,yalie
16.99,SwitchingQuylthulg
15.65,lostemperor
10.16,ELO
10.16,offramp
8.14,firebyrd
6.46,Ezzy
-0.26,DCP23
-0.87,YouRang
-1.43,nimh
-2.03,positionalgenius
-3.49,chessmoron
-3.53,chancho
-6.35,SloVice
-7.57,OhioChessFan
-7.63,NakoSonorense
-8.19,Aurora
-8.78,moronovich
-8.87,Winter
-9.44,Ragh
-10.53,kellmano
-10.82,Where is my mind
-11.14,zarg
-12.58,rogge
-12.88,Thorski
-13.66,jessicafischerqueen
-14.00,CHESSBOOKIE
-16.87,TheGladiatres
-18.18,Jafar219
-27.24,Robin01

Large Payoff Pair results:
Payoff,Pair result,Winners
$32.00,Carlsen-equal-Gelfand, suenteus po 147 (Jackpot)

$32.00,Carlsen-equal-Ivanchuk, corbulo (Jackpot)

$16.00,Aronian-equal-Kramnik, corbulo + kellmano (Semi-Jackpot)

$10.67,Gelfand-equal-Ivanchuk, DCP23 + lostemperor + SwitchingQuylthulg

$10.67,Morozevich-below-Ponomariov, positionalgenius + suenteus po 147 + SwitchingQuylthulg

Nov-08-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <ROUND 4 UPDATE>

Kramnik beats Svidler

Standings:

Actual standings:
1. Kramnik
2. Aronian
2. Anand
4-7 Carlsen
4-7 Gelfand
4-7 Ivanchuk
4-7 Ponomariov
8-9 Leko
8-9 Morozevich
10. Svidler

Nov-08-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: TAL MEMORIAL 2009 PREDICTION STANDINGS 4

Absolute Ranker:

<Ezzy> on pole position.

Maximum score: 50

Score,UserID
38,Ezzy
37,suenteus po 147
37,yalie
33,YouRang
32,chancho
32,lostemperor
31,Winter
30,firebyrd
29,OhioChessFan
28,Aurora
28,corbulo
28,ELO
28,offramp
27,CHESSBOOKIE
27,chessmoron
27,nimh
27,Ragh
27,rogge
27,SwitchingQuylthulg
27,Where is my mind
27,zarg
26,positionalgenius
24,NakoSonorense
24,TheGladiatres
23,moronovich
23,SloVice
19,kellmano
17,DCP23
17,Thorski
16,Jafar219
16,jessicafischerqueen
15,Robin01

Nov-08-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <Square Ranker 4>

Here <suenteus po 147> took the small lead.

Square Ranker
Maximum score: 330

Score,UserID
304,suenteus po 147
302,yalie
300,Ezzy
286,lostemperor
279,chancho
279,YouRang
273,Winter
271,OhioChessFan
267,chessmoron
264,corbulo
264,firebyrd
260,Aurora
258,CHESSBOOKIE
257,Ragh
257,Where is my mind
255,ELO
255,nimh
255,offramp
255,positionalgenius
247,SwitchingQuylthulg
246,rogge
240,zarg
234,SloVice
231,TheGladiatres
230,moronovich
216,NakoSonorense
204,Thorski
200,jessicafischerqueen
189,kellmano
182,DCP23
182,Robin01
171,Jafar219

Nov-08-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <Pair Betting Ranker 4>

Earnings,UserID
66.84,suenteus po 147
26.35,yalie
20.39,corbulo
14.17,Ezzy
12.40,firebyrd
10.82,lostemperor
6.31,chancho
5.31,DCP23
4.99,SwitchingQuylthulg
4.22,chessmoron
3.40,YouRang
2.77,positionalgenius
-0.24,ELO
-0.24,offramp
-0.63,OhioChessFan
-1.69,Winter
-5.17,nimh
-5.50,NakoSonorense
-6.55,Where is my mind
-6.73,jessicafischerqueen
-6.82,CHESSBOOKIE
-8.34,Jafar219
-8.47,zarg
-8.78,moronovich
-10.62,SloVice
-11.30,TheGladiatres
-12.19,Aurora
-12.58,rogge
-13.44,Ragh
-14.74,Thorski
-19.53,Robin01
-24.40,kellmano

Large Payoff Pair results:
Payoff,Pair result,Winners
$32.00,Carlsen-equal-Gelfand, suenteus po 147

$32.00,Carlsen-equal-Ivanchuk, corbulo

$10.67,Gelfand-equal-Ivanchuk, DCP23 + lostemperor + SwitchingQuylthulg

$10.67,Morozevich-below-Ponomariov, positionalgenius + suenteus po 147 + SwitchingQuylthulg

$8.00,Leko-below-Ponomariov, chessmoron + firebyrd + suenteus po 147 + yalie

$8.00,Ponomariov-above-Svidler, firebyrd + suenteus po 147 + yalie + YouRang

Nov-08-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Tomorrow is a rest day. Five rounds to go!
Nov-08-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Svidler last after all after 4 rounds :o)
Nov-08-09  Where is my mind: Thats a surprise! OK... not to everyone.Svidler has played both Kramnik and Anand with black,so it can only get easier from here ;-)
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