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| Jul-28-09 | | blacksburg: <Trice, like many evils before him took his work to a degree of art.> i don't give him that much credit. after all, if he was really good at this, someone might believe the crap that he spews. and no one does. |
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| Jul-28-09 | | PinnedPiece: <Ed Trice> has decided to shed any remnant of respectability on the CG.COM site. I guess he is angling to get banned entirely. He has just spammed his corny little Rob Mitchell exposure message onto the following pages: <Ed Trice>
<M61MG Wrestler>
<kibitzer's cafe>
<Zsuzsa Polgar>
<Daniel Freeman>
There are many more choice pages and forus, to go: guess we'll be seeing this message on your favorite kibitzing spot soon! |
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| Jul-28-09 | | PinnedPiece: <Rob Mitchell> has spent very little effort defending the Trice accusations (apparently doesn't need to bother), but some statements can be found here M61MG Wrestler chessforum
and following pages.... |
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| Jul-28-09 | | whiskeyrebel: I don't think he's such an accomplished liar. He gets mad too easily when questioned. He also tends to fall back on weak tactics such as his latest Rob Mitchell "spam" that he's posting all over this website. He's really dropped the ball many times here in ways a real pro wouldn't. An example is his sandbagging boasts in regards to the World open. If he really is that good, he'll just vanish from here someday like D.B. Cooper and work a new non chess project under a fresh alias. |
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| Jul-28-09 | | MrMelad: <whiskeyrebel> Think about it. He had to write the whole damn book, of course he used Fritz but he also researched Bobby's life to add anecdotes. He had to publish it using anonymous publisher. Also, he used Canada to perform the scam, knowing he won't be charged under US law. He established sock puppets long before the actual release of the book, and he almost conned Lebate, a book seller and a smart man. He printed T-shirts for god's sake, think how long he planned it. He was able to fool GM Polgar, IM L. Day. and User: joshka. That is the current theory at least, I haven't reached yet to accuse those individuals with cooperation with the scam itself. He has the time and strength to raise websites in a day, and also to create multiple accounts using different IPs. If he was a little bit more sophisticated he would use fake IPs and not from the same ISP but he obviously doesn't have a clue about real hacking. Yet he almost got a way with wikipedia claiming he practically invented the one time cipher-pad (using sock puppets of course). He may seem angry and annoying but this too is a tactic, like his threats to sue used to scare off intellectual people that usually doesn't want absolutely nothing to do with him, not even to put him in his place. He conned reporters, TV shows, business men, this guy is no joke, he is a serious criminal and should be treated like one. |
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Jul-28-09
 | | chancho: Not exactly the whole book <Mr Melad>. Taking the original M60MG, changing some of the wording in that book, then adding written material by the forger and some comp analysis to increase the page count is a plausible explanation as to how the fraud book came about. |
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| Jul-28-09 | | Jim Bartle: Even starting with the first edition, producing the new edition had to have required a tremendous amount of work. Even after the manuscript was completed. For example, in the pages I've seen there are few or no typos, which means a lot of effort went into proofreading. Also the design is good, which doesn't happen by chance. |
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| Jul-28-09 | | MrMelad: It is a modern and very professional scam. The scope of his operation is world-wide. His method include attacking the media from many sock-sources, using his primary used-to-be established identity to command them all, sometimes even pointing out mistakes with his master-self to his minion-self. He edits Websites, encyclopedias - Wiki is not the only one, there are some encyclopedias still online with Trice's edit of the old wikipedia form. He is a con buisness-man, that took his job to the extreme. Someone that doesn't happen to know all of this can very easily fall into the fake charms of his very strong commanding character. Lebate almost did, Rob Mitchel almost did, many people, including myself did. It is a classic case to write an entire book about internet scams. Every chapter could contain an example, how Trice did it and how he eventually failed. Give him the chance to start it all over, he can cover up his tracks... |
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Jul-28-09
| | chancho: <The scope of his operation is world-wide.> A world wide operation. Reminds me of this guy:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped... :-) |
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| Jul-28-09 | | MrMelad: Look a like :)
Trice would fit in jail, after he will finish contemplating on how he got there of course. |
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| Jul-28-09 | | PinnedPiece: CG.Com admins apparently have removed all the <Ed Trice> spam about Mr Mitchell from the previously mentioned pages, including 61Wrestler chessforum--except for <ET>'s own page. Does this mean they were removed for violating rule 2?
Makes sense. The one on Daniel Freeman's page was the first to go..... <M61MG Wrestler> has twice posted a common message on various pages, which I suppose should also be considered spamming. Of course, there wasn't any vitriol embedded in those messages.... Hmm-mm-mm.
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Jul-28-09
| | chancho: Trice will probably delete this in his forum, hence I copied and pasted the Colonel's post here: <Ed Trice:> <Sorry, all of you loser nay-sayers. This is historical fact. No matter how many times you say it wasn't, you can never change the fact that I did raise $15,000,000 for the match.> <Colonel Mortimer: If you had you wouldn't be rolling around with the nay-sayers, like the deluded kid of the playground desperate to convince his classmates that he had seen Superman (and it wasn't a movie).> <There are plenty of 'techniques' to win friends and influence people. 'Delusion' is not one of them.> |
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| Jul-29-09 | | MrMelad: Trice apparently lost Donald Trump's credit card. This is what he said happened to the 15 million when was asked to provide proof. I never heard of a better joke. How can you lose Donald Trump's credit card? If this is really why the match failed it would be even more pathetic. NOT! |
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| Jul-29-09 | | capatal: <Ed Trice the Celebrity>: The Narcissist's Addiction to Fame and Celebrity
Narcissism, Pathological Narcissism, The Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD), the Narcissist, and Relationships with Abusive Narcissists and Psychopaths By: Dr. Sam Vaknin
There is a set of narcissistic behaviours typical to the pursuit of celebrity. <There is almost nothing that the narcissist refrains from doing, almost no borders that he hesitates to cross to achieve renown. To him, there is no such thing as "bad publicity" – what matters is to be in the public eye.> Because the narcissist equally enjoys all types of attention and likes as much to be feared as to be loved, for instance – he doesn't mind if what is published about him is wrong ("as long as they spell my name correctly"). <The narcissist's only bad emotional stretches are during periods of lack of attention, publicity, or exposure.> |
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| Jul-29-09 | | rogge: Exactly!
So go ahead, make his day. |
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| Jul-29-09 | | Colonel Mortimer: <Because the narcissist equally enjoys all types of attention and likes as much to be feared as to be loved, for instance – he doesn't mind if what is published about him is wrong ("as long as they spell my name correctly").> "Yeah, well it's nice to know <Eddie Tries> likes taking center stage, 'cause he's painted red all over, and them arrows just keep whistling in 'bullseye'." If <Eddie Trice> starred in a spaghetti western he would already have had the buttons on his trousers clipped off by several well-aimed slugs, leaving him unharmed and tripping over his ankled trousers. |
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Jul-29-09
| | chancho: <Ed Trice: Susan Polgar, a four-time women's world champion and Texas Tech University's chess coach, confirmed she had been asked, if needed, to fill in for Fischer in the match.> <"Both Karpov and I signed the contract, and Bobby was seriously contemplating. The money was there," she said.> That should read: <she thought the money was there> and if it really was there, (the money that is) and Fischer of course did not play, then why did Susan who signed as a substitute for Fischer, never played in the event?
The Gothic match just disappeared... like so much hot air. Trice, should show the actual contract.(he wont) In the youtube video, he is holding a document that says: <This is not a contract. This is an informal acknowledgement of proposed match parameters.> We have yet to see a photo of Trice and Fischer next to each other. If Trice was the architect of that event, then why is something as simple as showing a photo of himself with Fischer, such a Herculean task? Einar
Einarsson has one, and all he did was ask Fischer. Trice is supposedly helping Fischer get millions, and Fischer cannot indulge him a photo? Give me a break! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54I8... |
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| Jul-29-09 | | Jim Bartle: For Trice to continue waving a single newspaper article as "proof," when the Fischer-Karpov match was not even the primary focus of the article, where he himself was the source of the $15M claim...You'd think even he would eventually realize it's really, really thin. |
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| Jul-29-09 | | rogge: <You'd think even he would eventually realize it's really, really thin> Do you seriously believe he doesn't? |
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| Jul-29-09 | | Jim Bartle: I should reword that. He should eventually realize that everybody knows that's really, really thin. |
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| Jul-29-09 | | JustToClarify: I think it's time to categorize Trice's responses when he's caught lying, or asked to confirm a lie: * Explanation making. When confronted with proof that he has said a lie, Trice comes up with the most creative explanations about why the proof is wrong "The lady working at Bartle Hall doesn't know what she's talking about when she verified there never was a Gothic Chess tournament there" or "We don't have pictures of 3,000 people playing Gothic Chess at Bartle Hall because some people objected to us distributing pictures of their children" * Invalid proof. When confronted more about the imaginary Bartle Hall Gothic Chess tournament, Trice came up with a picture of about six or seven kids playing Gothic Chess skittles games as proof there was a tournament where 3,000 people came to play Gothic Chess. * Intimidation and harassment. Trice will frequently intimidate and harass people with lawsuit threats when they call him to task for his lies. For example, when we discovered in the Wikipedia that Trice's Gothic Chess patent expired, he threatened to sue anyone who pointed out the Gothic Chess patent expired. * Sockpuppets. Trice frequently uses multiple Sockpuppets (creating other accounts to give the illusion Trice has any support) accounts to try and bolster his case. This was used, for example, when trying to invalidate the announcement of Trice losing his lawsuit against Labate in the RookHouse blog, where Trice created a number of Sock puppets to post to the blog (and was caught). * Distraction. Trice will often times try to change the subject when confronted point-blank about his lies and deception. For example, attacking Rob Mitchell and money Trice claims Rob owes him when confronted about the bogus $15,000,000 he claimed to raise for a Karpov-Fischer Gothic Chess match. * Deleting old posts. Trice will, once his lie is exposed, attempt to delete the discussion exposing his lies. This happened multiple times in the Wikipedia, where Trice tried multiple times to delete the Wikipedia discussion about the Gothic Chess patent expiration. * Moderated forums. Trice likes to use his own forums at Invisionfree that he controls and his own blogs, because he knows he will be exposed if he tries to engage in open debate. JTC
References:
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/sho... http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php... http://www.rookhouse.com/blog/?p=314 |
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| Jul-29-09 | | Jim Bartle: I see Trice re-posted his duplicating "Rob Mitchell robbed me" comment at the Kibitzers Cafe again today, after yesterday's was deleted. Now it's gone again and there's only one saying "Interesting information on Rob Mitchell," and of course the link to Gothicchess.com. I wonder if he's trying to break so many rules that he'll be kicked off the site. He might consider that a face-saving occurrence, better than slinking away on his own, thoroughly defeated. His positions in arguments are now just untenable. |
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Jul-29-09
| | chancho: <Ed Trice: Would you mind telling me how reporters who have seen all of the financial documents regarding the $15,000,000 in the account in Switzerland were wrong, how Susan Polgar was wrong, and how you are supposedly correct?> First it was one reporter, now it's reporters as in many. Hilarious. |
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Jul-29-09
| | chancho: <Ed Trice: You really think I will send you my sole copies of documentation entrusted to me by people worth hundreds of millions of dollars? You might want to check your definition of "delusional" and see how well it applies to you. FACT: Reporters SOUGHT ME OUT, not vice versa, on news of Fischer's death.
FACT: Polgar and Karpov signed the contract to play after seeing all of the relevant documentation regarding the prize fund, $15,000,000. They were satisfied with what they saw.> <FACT: The reporter got triple confirmation of every fact printed in that story.> <So, until you supply evidence to the contrary, you are just going to have to deal with the unpleasant little fact that you are dead wrong, and I am right.> <I guess you are one of those people who think the moon landing was faked, so enjoy wallowing in your own ignorance.> FACT: Ed Trice will not supply any actual evidence to support any of his claims, except for a link to a newpaper clipping, and saying that Polgar said the money was there. In other words, Trice is full of crap. |
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| Jul-29-09 | | PinnedPiece: Wow, <JTC> what a compendium. Nicely done....Difficult to dispute your refutation of my "$15M has no bearing" post when <ET>'s traits and habits are stacked up like that. . |
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