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Nov-14-10
 | | Phony Benoni: One of the very first baseball statistics that amused me was Minnie Minoso leading the league in stolen bases and double plays grounded into during the same year (1953). Same problem as Bo, no doubt. It's one of the few baseball statistics that hasn't inflated or deflated much. It's been kept only since 1933, when the NL leader was Ernie Lombardi with 26. The leader in the NL in 2010 also had 26. http://www.baseball-reference.com/l... The current king seems to be Miguel Tejada, who led his league 5 times between 2004 and 2009. Ironically, the one year he didn't lead (2007) was also the one year he didn't make the All-Star team. |
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| Nov-14-10 | | Jim Bartle: Remembering the Giants from 2002, I would have thought Benito Santiago held the double play record. He batted behind Bonds, and seemed to ground into a DP every time Bonds was walked intentionally. Or maybe I'm resentful because he did that his first two times up in the Series game I ever attended. |
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Nov-15-10
 | | keypusher: Congratulations Travis! |
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Nov-15-10
 | | keypusher: <Jim Bartle> <Phony Benoni> I see Lombardi is still tied for the NL record with 30...in the American League Jim Rice seems to have put the GIDP season record out of reach. What does it take to be a great GIDP'er? You need lots of at bats, you can't be too fast, you need a guy on base ahead of you, and I guess you have to put the ball in play but not really care where it goes. (Rice, incidentally, went to my high school, where he was a huge star in baseball and football. Radio was at my high school too.) There are slow catchers who rarely batted into double plays because they were careful about not grounding to the middle of the field with a guy on first. But hitting at the bottom of the order, they may not have had a man on first too often. Santiago maxed out with 21 with the Padres, but he had 19 a couple of times with the Giants. I guess that's on the high side. Of course, the guy ahead of him was getting to first at a ridiculously high frequency...could be the most disciplined hitter in baseball would have batted into 19 double plays behind Bonds. |
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Nov-15-10
 | | keypusher: ...correcting my last, I see Tejada had 32 in 2008, breaking Lombardi + some other guy's NL record. Given that Lombardi is supposed to have been the slowest guy who ever held down a regular job in the major leagues, quite a feat for Miguel. |
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| Nov-15-10 | | Travis Bickle: <keypusher> Thank you. ; P |
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| Nov-15-10 | | Jim Bartle: Albert Pujols after ten full seasons, his average year: 156 games, .331, 41 homers, 123 RBI, 118 runs, .624 slugging average. His worst year in each category: .312, 32 homers, 103 RBI, 99 runs, .561 slugging average. |
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| Nov-15-10 | | playground player: <Jim Bartle> Joe Torre, when he was playing for the Mets, once grounded into four DPs in one game. He said it was Felix Millan's fault for getting on base in front of him. <Phony Benoni> I saw Bo Jackson's last game as an uninjured baseball player. He was with the Royals. He got up to bat three times and hit a homer each time--and each homer went higher and farther than the one before, a la Ruth and Mantle. And then, making a spectacular catch in the outfield, he trashed his knee... and that was pretty much that for Bo's baseball career. Oh, what might've been! |
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| Nov-15-10 | | Jim Bartle: I'll give you another might-have-been: Kerry Wood. He's still around, but what if he had not been injured? <"Oh man, nothing that big should move that fast," said Royals Hall of Famer and former hitting coach John Mayberry.> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ht... I assume that means the KC Royals Hall of Fame, not the Cooperstown one. |
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Nov-15-10
 | | chancho: How about those Patriots?
They sure pounded the beejeesus out of the Steelers, eh? :-) |
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| Nov-15-10 | | Jim Bartle: "Joe Torre, when he was playing for the Mets, once grounded into four DPs in one game. He said it was Felix Millan's fault for getting on base in front of him." Somebody's got to have the team wrong there--it has to be Milwaukee. That's where Joe Torre and Felix Mantilla were teammates. In fact I doubt Mantilla got on base four straight times more than twice in his career. Felix Millan, not Felix Mantilla? Never mind. |
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Nov-15-10
 | | keypusher: <Travis Bickle: <keypusher> Thank you.> Now we have to see if we can beat you without a quarterback. |
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| Nov-15-10 | | Travis Bickle: <keypusher> Oh a Miami guy. I was listening to TheScore, a Chicago Sports Radio show and a report is out your major pass rusher is probably out with a hip injury also. Nothings for certain in the NFL especially this season. A short week, see ya Thursday night! ; P |
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Nov-15-10
 | | OhioChessFan: <JB: But for all the highlights he really never looked like a great baseball player: lifetime .250 average, 141 homers, 300 runs, 415 RBIs in what would be the equivalent of five full seasons. Good but not great.> Beyond overrated as a baseball player. He ran up a wall and hit a long home run in an All Star game. I never got the legend about him. |
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| Nov-15-10 | | Jim Bartle: OCF: I think it was the incredible potential he showed, and the spectacular plays he did make. I remember he led off one All-Star game with a long home run, I think off the Giants' Rick Reuschel. Had to be a big part of the legend, though some of the throws and running up and down the wall are pretty impressive as well. |
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| Nov-15-10 | | Jim Bartle: I hear Miami is thinking of starting Tom Matte at QB. |
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Nov-15-10
 | | Phony Benoni: Why would they start an old Colt? Bring back Earl Morrall! By the way, we've discussed the Joe Torre GIDP Festival before. It was with the Mets, hitting behind Felix Millan: http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... |
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Nov-15-10
 | | Phony Benoni: On the other hand, Dick McAuliffe of the 1968 Tigers went through the entire season without hitting into a double play. No, he wasn't very fast. He was batting leadoff, following Ray Oyler (.135) and the pitcher. About the only time he ever came up with a man on base was when Earl Wilson was pitching or Gates Brown had just pinch-hit. |
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Nov-15-10
 | | Phony Benoni: This looks like the Bo Jackson game <playground player> referred to: http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... The injury seems to have happened in the Yankees sixth during an inside-the-park home run by, of all people, Deion Sanders. |
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| Nov-15-10 | | Jim Bartle: McAuliffe still had 56 RBI that year, not bad for a leadoff guy. I read a book, can't remember which one, which described the Braves' unease when Deion was called up to the team. They were worried about his prima donna behavior from the NFL. Turns out he was a great teammate, hardworking, no showboating or hogging the spotlight. I liked Rick Dempsey's comment after getting run over by Bo at the plate: "I held him to fewer yards than Brian Bosworth." |
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| Nov-16-10 | | playground player: <Phony Benoni> Yes, I think you found the game I was talking about. Up until he wrecked his knee, it was an astounding night for Bo. <Jim Bartle> Felix Mantilla hit better for the Mets than he did for the Braves, and better for the Red Sox than he did for the Mets. But as PB's scoresheet shows, Felix Millan was indeed Torre's partner in crime that night. |
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Nov-16-10
 | | Phony Benoni: <JB: Somebody's got to have the team wrong there--it has to be Milwaukee. That's where Joe Torre and Felix Mantilla were teammates. In fact I doubt Mantilla got on base four straight times more than twice in his career.> He did it at least three times for the Mets in 1962:
http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/...
In the other two 4-for-5 performances, he made an out in the middle of the sequence. (Am I boring you yet? |
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| Nov-16-10 | | Jim Bartle: I just thought it was funny that I read the post, and started looking up Torre and Mantilla. It was only later I saw it was Millan, not Mantilla. |
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| Nov-16-10 | | Travis Bickle: Hey Phony now this guy could broadcast a ballgame & have a great time too! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4jw... |
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| Nov-17-10 | | playground player: <Phony Benoni> Boring??? "Everything you ever wanted to know about Felix Mantilla, but were afraid to ask"--how could that possibly be boring? But I wonder which team holds the record for having players named Felix... Let's see you solve that one! <PB>, <Jim Bartle> Hey, guys, visit my brand-new blog. See my forum for details. Maybe I can even get a link to work. |
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