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| Apr-25-13 |    | Jim Bartle: Except the Dodgers played the infield in, not back  for the double play. Overall I disagree. You're basically raising the next hitter's chance of success from his batting average to his on-base average, usually a big difference. (Plus the chance of a sacrifice fly, tough grounder, etc.) But the batter is almost always walked in that situation, so there must be more to it.  | 
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Apr-25-13
   |    | Phony Benoni: With nobody out, I was really thinking of an infielder-home-first double play. You would naturally play in for that.  Some sabermathematician has probably proved something conclusive about this one way or the other. Not that managers will listen to them in any case.  | 
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Apr-25-13
   |    | Phony Benoni: I thought so. And <JB> wins again: http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/a... http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/a... The conclusion seems to be (a) It's not worth it; (b) It's the safe strategy, since managers will be denounced by fans and press if they don't do it. Of course, this guy probably thinks WAR is the greatest thing since bread slicers. You sure you believe him?  | 
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Apr-25-13
   |    | OhioChessFan: I was a stats guy before it was cool.   And I think for all the good things sabermetrics does, it's waaaaaaaay wrong on WAR.  There is simply no way that an MVP player right now has only helped his team win one more game than a replacement player.  I think the WAR is majorly compressed, especially on the high end. | 
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| Apr-25-13 |    | Jim Bartle: To quote sabermtrician Edwin Starr, "WAR! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing!" | 
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Apr-25-13
   |    | Phony Benoni: Well, the Tigers just did it again. Tie game, top of the 10th, one out, runners on first and second move up on wild pitch. Intentional walk.
  Unintentional walk.
  Fortunately they're playing at home, so they're not dead yet.  | 
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Apr-25-13
   |    | Phony Benoni: Double whammy. First the bases loaded walk. Then the grand slam. Five for the price of one. | 
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| Apr-25-13 |    | Jim Bartle: My eyes glazed over as I read the first article. I mean, what's a wOba?  But it did seem to be measuring the average number of runs scored, while what we're interested in is the percentages of times a team will score one run. No reason to worry about the possibility of a big inning. Another opinion of mine is that the team in the field should get the sure out at first on a bunt, unless one run is absolutely decisive. (Or the force out is completely sure.) in general an out is bigger than a base.  | 
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Apr-25-13
   |    | Phony Benoni: That sounds right. You can always walk the next batter to set up a double play. :) | 
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| Apr-25-13 |    | Jim Bartle: Riight.
 It's just that if you don't get the lead runner, you've now got two men on base instead of one, and one fewer out.  | 
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| Apr-25-13 |    | Travis Bickle: Hey Phony, hangingenprise, Wannabe, Jim Bartle, Good Luck in The Draft!! | 
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| Apr-25-13 |    | Travis Bickle: Hey Phony, hangingenprise, Wannabe, Jim Bartle, Good Luck in The Draft!! *And Shams!! | 
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Apr-25-13
   |    | WannaBe: Woo woo, I am the number one pick! | 
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| Apr-25-13 |    | Travis Bickle: <WannaBe> The RAIDERZZZ are on the clock! | 
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Apr-25-13
   |    | WannaBe: Raiders took a trade!! | 
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| Apr-25-13 |    | Travis Bickle: <WannaBe> Maybe a good move they need picks. | 
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Apr-25-13
   |    | WannaBe: Maybe we can trade that 12th pick for 5 picks in the 4th round!!! | 
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| Apr-25-13 |    | Travis Bickle: <WannaBe> LOL! | 
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Apr-25-13
   |    | WannaBe: Woo, Detroit took B. Sanders!!! | 
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| Apr-25-13 |    | hangingenprise: phony: well your lions went defense. now, how are they going to address the offensive line? | 
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| Apr-25-13 |    | hangingenprise: the traiders had to trade the pick to get a second round. it is sound to me.
miami gets after brady. can't fault that pick. | 
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| Apr-25-13 |    | Travis Bickle: I think The Bears will pick about midnight. ; ( | 
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Apr-25-13
   |    | WannaBe: Trade you our 12th pick for your first rounder,and 1 second rounder.. | 
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| Apr-25-13 |    | Jim Bartle: Only one ball-handling player ("skill position") taken in the first 11, and that was a receiver at #8. Amazing. | 
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| Apr-25-13 |    | Travis Bickle: <WannaBe: Trade you our 12th pick for your first rounder,and 1 second rounder..> Nah The McCaskey's can pay less with a number 20. | 
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