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| Sep-09-13 |  | Jim Bartle: Did anybody have a Topps card of "Bob Clemente"? Those are from his early years. There were also "Jay Alou" cards. Clemente was never a big home run hitter, his high being 29, more a George Brett type. Obviously he had the power, though, as that video shows. | 
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| Sep-09-13 |  | Jim Bartle: Here's Bob: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Topps-1962-... | 
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| Sep-10-13 
  |  | keypusher: Dolphins 1-0...with the same number of rushing yards as points.  Wonder if any team has done that and won before? | 
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| Sep-10-13 |  | Jim Bartle: The reason Showalter and Girardi wanted to fight yesterday was that Girardi yelled at the O's third-base coach that he was stealing signs. My question: Is it against the rules for players, coaches or managers to steal signs? I thought it was OK, that it was only illegal to use outside people or technology to do it. Maybe it's not against the formal rules, just breaking some generally- accepted "unwritten rule." | 
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| Sep-10-13 
  |  | perfidious: <PB>: I'll sign that. Most everything which takes place and is beyond the norm seems to attract adjectives such as 'unbelievable', 'amazing', 'shocking', etc in the eyes of sportswriters who rely on hyperbole as a substitute for substance. | 
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| Sep-10-13 
  |  | perfidious: <Jim>: It should be noted that Forbes Field had long distances, particularly to LF, such that Pirates needed two players capable of playing centre. Willie Stargell set career HR marks only after the team moved to newly-constructed Three Rivers, same as Hank Aaron did not magically become a better power hitter in his thirties: http://www.baseball-reference.com/p... http://www.baseball-reference.com/p... It is my hypothesis that Aaron would have had no chance whatever of breaking Ruth's record had A) Braves not moved to Atlanta, aka the Fulton County Launching Pad and B) he not been a designated hitter for Brewers later on. | 
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| Sep-10-13 |  | Jim Bartle: Probably true about Aaron, though he only hit 15 more homers at home than on the road. One of the greatest players with or without the record. My pet peeve on language is the verb "stunned" every time there's an upset. Really, it's shocking, amazing and unbelievable that writers and editors can't come up with a little variety. | 
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| Sep-10-13 
  |  | perfidious: <Jim>: Stunning, too. | 
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| Sep-10-13 
  |  | keypusher: <It is my hypothesis that Aaron would have had no chance whatever of breaking Ruth's record had A) Braves not moved to Atlanta, aka the Fulton County Launching Pad and B) he not been a designated hitter for Brewers later on.> My mom got me a couple of companion LPs the year he broke the record, 1974.  One about Ruth (The Legend Comes to Life) and one about Aaron (The Life of a Legend or something like that).  I guess the Ruth album was based on Creamer's book.  Curt Gowdy did the voice over.   http://www.amazon.com/Babe-Ruth-Leg... Anyway, we can let the Brewers and the DH off the hook, because Aaron broke the record when he was still with the Braves.  He finished 1974 with 733 home runs.  He probably should have retired then.  I have nothing against him making a good paycheck, but he was pretty much done when he went back to Milwaukee.  Just 22 homers in two years with the Brewers. | 
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| Sep-10-13 
  |  | keypusher: http://www.amazon.com/Hank-Aaron-Le... Wow, Amazon has an mp3 of the Aaron album.  Or part of one. | 
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| Sep-10-13 
  |  | Phony Benoni: <keypusher> As for the Dolphins' Rushless Wonder, it has happened before. The Elias Sports Bureau, as usual, comes up with a tidbit: <Dolphins' win echoes their first-ever loss> "The Dolphins defeated the Browns, 23-10 at Cleveland, despite gaining only 20 yards on 23 carries. The last team to win its season opener with 20 or fewer rushing yards was Oakland, with 16 yards on the ground in a 23-14 victory over Miami at the Orange Bowl in 1966. That also happened to be the first regular-season game in Dolphins history." http://espn.go.com/espn/elias?date=... | 
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| Sep-10-13 |  | Jim Bartle: I knew Forbes Field had abig scoreboard in left, tough to hit a ball over, but didn't know its dimensions: 365 down the leftfield line, 400 to left-center, 457 to center. I can see why righthanded hitters didn't hit many homers. http://www.google.com/search?q=forb... Saw a favorite photo, celebrating Mazeroski's home run: http://www.google.com/search?q=forb... I'm sure that's taken with a wide angle lens, which makes the stadium farther away than it was. | 
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| Sep-10-13 |  | Jim Bartle: "look farther away..." | 
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| Sep-11-13 
  |  | keypusher: <PB> 
 Thanks!  I looked it up on pro football reference.
 http://www.pro-football-reference.c... Weird game.  Miami's very first play was a TD on a kickoff return, but regrettably named QB Dick Wood had as many INTs as completions (4). | 
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| Sep-11-13 
  |  | perfidious: <Jim>: Paul Waner's speciality, as you may recall per Bill James, was batting with his closed stance and shooting balls into the left field corner, so that he was either fouling off pitches or getting himself a double. Small wonder he is one of the all-time leaders in doubles, playing most of his career in Forbes. | 
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| Sep-11-13 |  | Travis Bickle: Mr Benoni, you have an easy ballgame this week with the Cardinals. We got Minnesota this week. Da Bears gotta shut down the run! | 
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| Sep-11-13 
  |  | Phony Benoni: A hard-hit ball: 
 http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?content_i... | 
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| Sep-11-13 |  | Jim Bartle: I don't know if I've ever seen a ball leave the park so quickly. Maybe McGwire's 62nd. | 
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| Sep-11-13 
  |  | jnpope: <Phony Benoni: <jnpope> You've worked hard enough on this, so I translated the game into algebraic and submitted another slip. In addition to everything else, there seems to have been a typo in the newspaper's score.> Do you think it may be time to submit another slip?
Zukertort vs Lipschutz, 1886
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| Sep-11-13 |  | Travis Bickle: What you don't answer posts anymore? | 
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| Sep-11-13 
  |  | Phony Benoni: Travis, some days I'm just not in the mood for witty banter. Nothing personal. If I don't feel up to it, I'm not going to spend a lot of time trying to think of something to say. It's one of the reasons I gave up postal chess. I grew tired to spending two minutes thinking up a move and two days trying to make convesation. | 
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| Sep-11-13 |  | Travis Bickle: Ok I'll try not to be so witty an upbeat anymore. You can answer your glib sports talk to your real friends like Bartle & everybody else on your forum. | 
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| Sep-12-13 
  |  | Phony Benoni: <Colonel Mortimer> I have deleted your kibitzes and Travis' response. Travis and I have these disagreement at times, and we are able to settle them eventually without outside interference--particularly when it's obviously adversarial. If you have a problem with Travis, this is not the place to air them. Travis, I hope that when things cool down you won't be unhappy that I deleted your response. I've known you long enough to realize what your response would be, and that you would probably regret it later. | 
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| Sep-12-13 |  | Colonel Mortimer: No worries:) I apologise, picked your forum for a Travis tangle. My bad. | 
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| Sep-12-13 
  |  | Phony Benoni: <jnpope> Sigh. Corrections can be slow at the best of times, but game score corrections seem almost impossible. I don't know what to advise. <cg> insists that no correction slips are ever discarded. I have seen kibitzers play "squeaky wheel" and keep up the pressure until THEIR update is made, but that's not my style. It would be good if we could be informed whether our correction was rejected and why, but that would slow down the process even more. What we really need is a website dedicated to verifying the data. <Cg> has made strides in the area, but that will never be the primary purpose of this site. I realize this answer isn't going to satisfy you. I'm mainly just trying to keep myself interested. | 
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