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Phony Benoni
Member since Feb-10-06 · Last seen Jun-11-22
Greetings, O Seeker After Knowledge! You have arrived in Dearborn, Michigan (whether you like it or not), and are reading words of wisdom from a player rated 2938--plus or minus 1000 points.

However, I've retired from serious play--not that I ever took playing chess all that seriously. You only have to look at my games to see that. These days I pursue the simple pleasures of finding games that are bizarre or just plain funny. I'd rather enjoy a game than analyze it.

For the record, my name is David Moody. This probably means nothing to you unless you're a longtime player from Michigan, though it's possible that if you attended any US Opens from 1975-1999 we might have crossed paths. Lucky you.

If you know me at all, you'll realize that most of my remarks are meant to be humorous. I do this deliberately, so that if my analysis stinks to High Heaven I can always say that I was just joking.

As you can undoubtedly tell from my sparkling wit, I'm a librarian in my spare time. Even worse, I'm a cataloger, which means I keep log books for cattle. Also, I'm not one of those extroverts who sit at the Reference Desk and help you with research. Instead, I spend all day staring at a computer screen updating and maintaining information in the library's catalog. The general public thinks Reference Librarians are dull. Reference Librarians think Catalogers are dull.

My greatest achievement in chess, other than tricking you into reading this, was probably mating with king, bishop and knight against king in a tournament game. I have to admit that this happened after an adjournment, and that I booked up like crazy before resuming. By the way, the fact I have had adjourned games shows you I've been around too long.

My funniest moment occurred when I finally got a chance to pull off a smothered mate in actual play. You know, 1.Nf7+ Kg8 2.Nh6+ Kh8 3.Qg8+ Rxg8 4.Nf7#. When I played the climactic queen check my opponent looked at the board in shocked disbelief and said, "But that's not mate! I can take the queen!"

Finally, I must confess that I once played a positional move, back around 1982. I'll try not to let that happen again.

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   Phony Benoni has kibitzed 18634 times to chessgames   [more...]
   Jun-11-22 M Blau vs Keres, 1959 (replies)
 
Phony Benoni: Not a good recommendation for the DERLD. Out of 59 moves, White makes only three in Black's half of the board. And two of those conist of 3.Bb5 and 6.Bxc6.
 
   Jun-11-22 chessgames.com chessforum (replies)
 
Phony Benoni: Er, it's back. Karpov vs Timman, 1988
 
   Jun-10-22 Orlo Milo Rolo
 
Phony Benoni: Marco!
 
   Jun-10-22 Lilienthal vs Bondarevsky, 1947
 
Phony Benoni: Another one for you King Hunters. Black's monarch travels fron g8 to b8, then takes the Great Circle Route back to h3 before calling it a day.
 
   Jun-10-22 GrahamClayton chessforum (replies)
 
Phony Benoni: <GrahamClayton> I've posted a question for you at L T Magee vs J Holland, 1948
 
   Jun-10-22 L T Magee vs E L Holland, 1948 (replies)
 
Phony Benoni: <GrahamClayton> The source you cite, <Chess Review, May 1948, p. 24>, gives Black's name as <E Holland> "Chess Life" (June 5, 1948, p. 1) has a table of results giving <E L Holland>. That form also appears in USCF rating supplements for a player fro ...
 
   Jun-09-22 Biographer Bistro (replies)
 
Phony Benoni: SkinnVer Here Among the Fold?
 
   Jun-09-22 Flohr vs Bondarevsky, 1947 (replies)
 
Phony Benoni: Black's bishop makes me think of Godzilla emerging from the depths of the ocean to wreak havoc. However, in the end it's his Two Little Friends who steal the show. Well, maybe not so litt.
 
   Jun-06-22 W Ritson-Morry vs G T Crown, 1947
 
Phony Benoni: it was the last round. Rison-Morry was mired in last place. These things happen.
 
   Jun-06-22 W Adams vs M Kagan, 1947
 
Phony Benoni: Some more informztion. The game was published in <Chess Review>, March 1948, p. 23. Black's name is given as "M Kagan", and the location as "Massachusetts". There is no other game data, but I think we can now safely assume Black is <Milton Kagan>. Earlier in the ...
 
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Jun-22-14  hms123: <WannaBe> I don't think the coaches had either. The umps knew though.
Jun-22-14  Jim Bartle: Umpire hit by ball: That's the rule. But it's a lot more likely to happen using metal bats than wooden, as in college baseball. The difference is huge.

Dropped third strike: The batter is out (unless there are two outs) to avoid the possibility of a double play when there's a runner on first.

Jun-22-14  hms123: <Jim> that makes sense on the dropped third strike, but why does it matter if the umpire is in front or behind the infielders?
Jun-22-14  Jim Bartle: I don't know. We'll have to wait for <pb>. i can only guess it's because it's before a play could have been made. This really means it can only be called if it hits the second base umpire.
Jun-22-14  hms123: <Jim> It did hit the second base umpire. Both of the plays determined the outcomes of the games. Fortunately, each team gained from one of the plays. Even better, my Vanderbilt Commodores are now in the finals of the CWS.
Jun-22-14  Jim Bartle: ESPN baseball guy Buster Olney is from Vanderbilt. He looks for opportunities to mention it on his daily podcast.
Jun-22-14  hms123: <Jim> Didn't know that--thanks. Willie Geist on MSNBC and Skip Bayless of ESPN are also Vandy grads.
Jun-22-14
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  Phony Benoni: <hms123> I suspect that when an umpire is hit by a line drive, that probably penalizes the batting team. Since an umpire is not going to stand where he blocks a fielder's vision of the plate, the ball was likely to reach the outfield and drive in a couple of runs.

If you go to a game, spend a little time watching the umpires, how they shift positions according to the situation. It's quite a science, and one TV will never show you.

Jun-22-14  Jim Bartle: One of the things I like about college baseball is that the teams rag on each other, or at least did when I was going to games, and the crowds are small enough you can hear them.

Also, the players and coaches can hear what fans yell. A long time ago I went to an Arizona State-Stanford doubleheader, and there were a couple of really obnoxious Arizona St. fans yelling at the Stanford coach nonstop.

This was a year or so after ASU football coach had been fired for punching the punter. After the Stanford coach had argued a call, one of the guys yelled, "Great example you're showing for your players, Marquess!" I so wanted to yell out, "That's right, Marquess do it the ASU way. Punch your own player!" But I didn't have the nerve.

Unfortunately ASU wiped out Stanford in both games, as Alvin Davis hit three homers and two doubles.

Jun-22-14  Jim Bartle: I'd keep it quiet if Skip Bayless had graduated from my school.
Jun-22-14  hms123: <Jim>

Better than Stephen A. Smith.

<Phony>

No doubt that is the reasoning, but in this specific case the announcers all thought that the second baseman would have had a good chance at a double play. Either a catch and step on second or one-hop, tag second and throw to first. I am sure the umps don't want to start making those kinds of judgment calls.

Jun-22-14  Jim Bartle: I still think aluminum bats change the situation. It would be very rare that an ump couldn't get out of a ball hit with a wood bat by a non-Pujols. But with the metal bats, the ball can come too fast to react.
Jun-22-14  Travis Bickle: Hey Phony, here's a song for you & Jim Bartle & all you baseball fans...

Centerfield - John Fogerty
http://youtu.be/04KQydlJ-qc

Jun-22-14
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  Phony Benoni: Hey, Travis, why does he keep saying "Put me in, Coach"? Don't ballplayers fly first class?
Jun-22-14  Travis Bickle: Phony he plays for the Cubs LOL!
Jun-22-14
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  Phony Benoni: Some video, Travis. I definitely caught World Series snippets from 1947, 1954, 1955, 1956, 1957, and 1960, and there were probably many more.
Jun-22-14  Travis Bickle: Unfortunately Phony the guy who did the video made the video clips too fast.
Jun-23-14
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  WannaBe: MLB protective cap:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/22/us/ba...

Jun-23-14
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  OhioChessFan: <Saturday: bases loaded, third strike on the batter but the ball gets away from the catcher and goes into the dugout (another dead ball).

Ruling---batter is out because first base is already occupied. >

Yes, so long as there are not two out. Runners should all advance one base from time of pitch. With 2 outs, batter is awarded first and all runners advance one base from time of pitch.

<Had first base been empty, the runner would have been awarded the base. The fielding team gets out of the inning and goes on to win the game.>

The intent is to keep a team from striking out into a double play because of an uncaught third strike. Suppose a runner on first and a slow batter, catcher purposely drops strike 3, picks up, throws to second, then to first, double play.

<Have you ever seen plays like this? I hadn't. >

Strangest rules play I ever saw was a softball tournament, championship game. One out, runners on first and third, line drive to the pitcher. Pitcher catches it and throws wildly to first in an attempt to double up the runner. Runner was heading back to first base, but when the throw went sailing into right field, he took off for second. Meanwhile, the runner at third tagged up and ran home with what would be the winning run. Some bench players for the team in the field screamed to the right fielder to throw the ball to first to double up that runner. He did, the umpire duly called that runner out and announced to the scorekeeper the run had scored. Right call?

As for the strike 3 pitch rolling into the dugout, it's an interesting thought that a ball wouldn't get the batter to first, but strike 3 would.

Jun-23-14  Jim Bartle: I don't know whether that run should count. I would guess yes. Had the runner on third not tagged up I believe the team on the field would have had to make a "fourth out" appeal at third.

Happened in the majors maybe twenty years ago on a popped up bunt and the run counted without the appeal.

Jun-23-14
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  OhioChessFan: I happened to read the umpire hit by ball answer before trying to answer it. That might have been my first ever miss on a baseball rules question.

<JB> yes, the run counts. The runner from first wasn't forced, so the appeal would have to occur before the runner from third touched home plate. I realize my scenario didn't specify the runner touched home before the appeal, but it did imply it. And yes on your fourth out appeal.

I am going to go out on a limb with a hypothetical without checking the rule book for the answer, but I'm pretty sure I know.

Bases loaded, one out, line drive to pitcher, pitcher throws into left field attempting to double up the runner, runner on third doesn't tag up, defensive team doesn't appeal until after the runners from second and first have touched home plate. Ruling?

Jun-23-14  Jim Bartle: No runs count. Would have counted had they appealed to second or first.
Jun-23-14
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  WannaBe: Woooo, interesting, since the runner on third did not tag, runner is out, end of inning. (??)

One out, pitcher catches the second out, appeal at third for three.

Now, bases loaded, no outs, pitcher catches the line drive, throw goes into center field, runners from third and second touch home plate, without tagging.

Runner on first is now on third, also no tag, throw to third, third baseman steps on base tags the runner ( who was on first) everybody out and no runs scored??

Jun-23-14
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  OhioChessFan: I am pretty sure that's right <JB> A similar case would be a runner missing a base and on appeal becoming the third out. No following runners would score.
Jun-23-14
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  OhioChessFan: <WannaBe> in your example, the runner from second scores.
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