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| Jun-19-14 | | Jim Bartle: <So, Merv, what <DO> you tell Tony Gwynn as a hitting coach? Choke up a millimeter? Open your stance just another 1/16 inch? Put another 1/64 oz more pine tar on your bat handle?> Merv worked to see that no other coach or player talked to Gwynn about his swing. Whitey Herzog actually had a rule like that for Willie McGee. He absolutely prohibited any of his coaches or players to tamper with McGee' swing. It looked so terrible, but it worked for him. |
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| Jun-19-14 | | Jim Bartle: Somebody told a story about finding Gwynn in a batting cage, hitting line drives toward a tiny hole in the wall, with the machine set to 50 mph. Coach: "Why is it set to 50 mph?"
Gwynn: "Can you hit a fastball?"
Coach: "Yes."
Gwynn: "So can I. I'm working on keeping my hands back on changeups, keep from pulling them foul." |
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Jun-20-14
 | | Phony Benoni: Ted Williams and Tony Gwynn have a conversation. It's not about the price of tea in China. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3hL... |
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Jun-20-14
 | | perfidious: <PB: In later life, (Fain) went to pot.> One might say that, yes. |
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| Jun-20-14 | | playground player: <WannaBe> I actually read that book, years and years ago. Yes, Moe Berg was a spy. Indeed, some of his adventures as a spy border on the incredible--e.g., Jew from Newark, NJ, posing as a German general, is given a guided tour of the Reich's top-secret heavy water factory...! You might not be able to get away with that in fiction, but Moe Berg got away with it in WWII. |
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Jun-20-14
 | | Phony Benoni: There are revisionist views of Moe Berg:
http://sabr.org/bioproj/person/e1e6... |
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| Jun-20-14 | | Jim Bartle: I'm reading this truly awful biography of Billy Martin. It's so bad I can't put it down, like not being able to look away from a car accident. How can a guy who doesn't care about baseball itself write a biography of a baseball player and manager? Plus there's the pompous title, "The Last Yankee." I wonder what Jeter and Rivera would think about that. Nevertheless, I learned a couple of interesting things: Martin supposedly turned the Tigers into a base-stealing, bunting team in 1971-72. I mean, how ridiculous is that, with a power-hitting team with little speed playing in an extreme hitters park? Martin was fired twice in midseason and got a new job within two weeks. In midseason. How rare is that? And for it to happen twice with the same guy? And in the replay of the George Brett pinetar game, Martin immediately appealed that Brett had missed first base. When the ump signaled safe, Martin said, "How do you know? You weren't there." And the ump pulled an afficavit from his pocket, signed by all four umpires during the original game, stating that Brett had touched all four bases. Martin was left speechless. |
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Jun-20-14
 | | perfidious: Is the slump of Justin Verlander attributable to The Curse of Kate Upton? <.....2014 has been an utter bust on the mound: Verlander is carrying a career-worst 4.98 ERA and fanning just 6.4 batters per inning, his lowest figure since 2006. Recently a high-90s flamethrower, the 31-year-old’s average fastball speed in (sic) down to 92 mph.> http://nypost.com/2014/06/18/sports... |
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| Jun-20-14 | | Jim Bartle: More to the point, is the Curse of Kate Upton worth it? Years past, there was a Curse of Jennifer Capriati, as the career or every tennis boyfriend went into the tank. Verlander's slump is more evidence that long contracts to veteran pitcers is a real risk. Maybe Kershaw will drop off in two years. |
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Jun-20-14
 | | perfidious: <Jim> If I were a GM, five years, no more, would be my limit on pitchers' deals and a cap of seven on position players. Hard to tell whether the decline in velocity is natural as Verlander, at 31, should clearly be in his decline phase overall, but if this persists, he will have to adjust. Great pitcher that he is, I do not doubt for one moment that he will adapt. |
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| Jun-20-14 | | Jim Bartle: Kevin Brown was the worst ever. But longterm hundred million dollar contracts to pitchers going over thirty, any player actually, are extremely risky. |
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Jun-20-14
 | | perfidious: Brown, at $15M per year for seven years, was an egregious contract--I should sooner give Verlander $23-25M today for the same term, despite my previous post. |
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Jun-20-14
 | | Phony Benoni: It's possible Verlander is simply paying the natural price for overachieving and overworking. He's certainly gone backward since the Cy Young/MVP super season. . And it's possible he may be districted these days: he's certainly become moe media savvy and approachable. My worry is arm trouble, what With symptoms like lack of speed and inability to locate the ball. That's something he would have trouble admitting. Verlander has the stuff to graduate to a first class Frank Tanana-type pitcher, but getting him to accept that is another matter. |
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Jun-20-14
 | | WannaBe: Lack of speed or drop of speed and location trouble is just what the Marlins phemon suffered, and he ended up with Tommy John surgery. On other note:
http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/sto... Wasted a lot of people's time. |
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| Jun-20-14 | | Jim Bartle: Does Tommy John get royalties? |
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Jun-20-14
 | | Phony Benoni: So Alex Rodriguez can't even field lawsuits cleanly? Just fooling around here a bit:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/f... Still trying to figure out why Jerry Adair was known as <Casper, the Friendly Ghost>, or why Felipe Alou is <El Panqué de Haina>. |
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Jun-20-14
 | | WannaBe: Not enough 'Lefty' on that list, maybe Phil Mickleson can pick up playing baseball!? |
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Jun-21-14
 | | OhioChessFan: Interesting nickname at the end:
Joseph Zoellers- Chess |
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Jun-21-14
 | | Phony Benoni: The ol' bases-clearing wild pitch:
http://milwaukee.brewers.mlb.com/vi... We've been seeing a lot of dumb plays this year. |
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Jun-21-14
 | | perfidious: If the pitcher is paying attention instead of heading towards the mound with that hangdog attitude, the third run does not score. |
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Jun-21-14
 | | WannaBe: He should have thrown it to the cut off man, at second base. =)) |
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Jun-21-14
 | | Phony Benoni: Justin Verlander was better today: 7 innings, 1 ER, 8 strikeouts. But, just in case, he is investigating new sporting opportunities: http://detroit.tigers.mlb.com/video... |
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| Jun-22-14 | | Jim Bartle: Jack Morris on 1984 Tigers: http://m.mlb.com/det/video/v3382428... |
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| Jun-22-14 | | hms123: <Phony, Jim, WannaBe, perfidious, et al.> Good morning, baseball rules wizards. I just saw two strange plays in two days of the College World Series. Friday: Bases loaded, one out, hitter hits a hard line drive that hits the umpire in the infield. One run scores and the 2nd baseman throws out the hitter at first after chasing down the ball.
Ruling--dead ball when it hits the umpire (because he is in front of the infield at the time) and everyone moves up a base, including the hitter who was thrown out at first. Instead of a potential inning-ending double play, the bases are still loaded and the hitting team goes on to score more runs and win the game. Saturday: bases loaded, third strike on the batter but the ball gets away from the catcher and goes into the dugout (another dead ball). Ruling---batter is out because first base is already occupied. Had first base been empty, the runner would have been awarded the base. The fielding team gets out of the inning and goes on to win the game. Have you ever seen plays like this? I hadn't.
What strange rules. |
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Jun-22-14
 | | WannaBe: <hms123> I've not seen anything like that! |
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