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|Jan-11-07|| ||Nibiru: Thank you GM Nickel, you are a real gentleman!|
|Jan-11-07|| ||Artar1: Arno Nickel:
Thank you very much for the opportunity to play chess with you at an exalted level. I'm sure that the rest will agree with me we had a great learning experience and a wonderful, intense game of chess. Thanks again for playing against the World Team! We really enjoyed it!
|Jan-11-07|| ||Nightranger: Thanks for the insight Arno. Looking back I realized that I forgot something, so |
< < < < THANKS, WORLD TEAM! > > > >
Thanks to all my teammates on the world team, many of whom contributed far more to this game than I could.
And Thanks for, unknowingly perhaps, contributing to MY education as well.
|Jan-11-07|| ||CoryLetain: wowwie!|
|Jan-11-07|| ||Nibiru: Sharpnova: you are only so lucky that GMAN didn't want to play on against a bunch of losers. The white position was terrible and clearly lost. You should be ashamed of yourselves!|
|Jan-11-07|| ||CoryLetain: I'm really happy we held off trading queens.|
|Jan-11-07|| ||ajile: AWESOME! WE WIN!!!!!!
Good work everyone!!
|Jan-11-07|| ||aragorn69: <Jan-10-07 : Honza Cervenka: <Domdaniel: Did anyone here vote on every move, btw? I think I missed two...> I am not sure but I don't remember any missed voting from my part.>
To me, that might be the main reason we won : we had Honza on our team!!! |
|Jan-11-07|| ||Domdaniel: Since nobody - and especially our gracious opponent - should be expected to wade through 1050 pages of gibberish mixed with analysis (plus forums!), should we try to sort out some of our main plans and ideas and list them here -- or maybe post them to the Arno Nickel page?|
Arno's outline analysis above makes a lot of sense. Remember how much debate we had over the usefulness of Rf2? And it's true that he 'forced' us into an attack that proved to be winning.
Even after 27...Rac8, there were at least two moves that made it easier for us. 29...Qb5 was a surprise: we were already pretty sure it was unplayable. And 33...Rf8 seemed to accelerate the end -- 33...Bxf6 instead would have led to a good Q+R ending for White, but not as easy to win as the game line. Or so I thought.
|Jan-11-07|| ||OhioChessFan: In honor of our esteemed leader, <twinlark>, a cheer:|
Aussie, Aussie, Aussie!
Oy, Oy, Oy!
|Jan-11-07|| ||OhioChessFan: <domdaniel> I think the move summaries would be a good start. Perhaps we could work on producing the sort of overall plan you mentioned, and post it here, maybe, 1 week from today?|
|Jan-11-07|| ||Domdaniel: Oh, <jackmandoo>, what can I say? If you won't believe GM Nickel's account, what will you believe? Is it so hard to accept that we played well, and won fairly and squarely?|
|Jan-11-07|| ||MJW 72: 29...Qb5 I think was the losing move. Black wastes two tempos move the Queen there and back. GG A.R.|
|Jan-11-07|| ||jepflast: <Arno Nickel: Itís still hard to say at exactly which point of the game Black was definitely lost.>|
I'd say it was when we tucked away our king with h3 and Kh2. At that point, Black's counterplay, and our troubles, vanished like magic. White had plenty of targets to attack and very little defensive responsibility.
But overall I think a combination of three positional features led to the win by White:
1. King safety -- due to Black's pawn on g6, the Black king was exposed, while the White king was safe.
2. Black's indefensible pawns -- especially the doubled ones.
3. White's space advantage -- after our d-pawn reached the 4th rank, our heavy pieces could keep an eye on both sides of the board, whereas Black was cramped and divided.
|Jan-11-07|| ||Touch of Knight: Congratulations everyone! A well deserved victory!
I did post some analyses now and then earlier in the game, but not lately, since I felt that would have been superfluous. But I have been following the game closely to the end, and I have been voting on every move.
I have learned a lot. It has truly been a pleasure being on the World Team.
Thanks, everyone! Thanks, Arno!
|Jan-11-07|| ||aragorn69: More seriously, congratulations to us all!
But I would like to thank a few key analyzers/organizers in particular, who helped me get a better understanding of the game (this one and chess in general) and made our "work" so much easier by organizing great forums. In no particular order: <Domdaniel>, <Thorsson>, <themadhair>, <OhioChessFan>, <twinlark>, <RandomVisitor>, <Honza>, <Artar1>.
Even "grouchy" <Rookfile> deserves a mention for forcing us to find - and vote for - a better line than the one he liked... (I signed in well after the brilliant a4-a5 push!)
Thanks to all. And above all, thanks for GM Nickel for accepting the challenge and carrying it through with all the sportsmanship he is known for.
|Jan-11-07|| ||jedrus07: Thanks the world team for a fantastic game!
And thank you GM Arno!
|Jan-11-07|| ||ajile: Arno is very gracious in his summary of our game. Thanks for giving us this fun game. |
As far as analysis it would be great if we could have this game annotated at key points to show what happened.
|Jan-11-07|| ||OhioChessFan: I'm a little surprised that GMAN didn't mention Qb5 in his post-mortem.|
|Jan-11-07|| ||positionalgenius: Congrats to everyone for the win.This is huge.Especially the ones who faithfully hosted moves at their forums.
Last but not least thanks GM Nickel for playing us.You showed some world-class chess and I'm looking forward to a rematch.|
|Jan-11-07|| ||ganstaman: <Domdaniel: Oh, <jackmandoo>, what can I say? If you won't believe GM Nickel's account, what will you believe? Is it so hard to accept that we played well, and won fairly and squarely?>|
Not sure if you are serious, but if you are: jackmandoo is one of the funnier members of this site. That last post of his was not his best work, so we'll have to forgive him.
|Jan-11-07|| ||rufolate: Congrats To All for this game well played
I think it would be fun, if chessgames posted a line of this game as a Friday Puzzel of the Day. Maybe 18... and White to move. I do not know what do you guys think???
|Jan-11-07|| ||OhioChessFan: I feel like sitting and posting/babbling the rest of the day. But real life is calling. It was truly a team effort, and every voter mattered. Isn't there something nice in that? :)
Thanks again, World, thanks GMAN, thanks Chessgames.|
|Jan-11-07|| ||chesstoplay: Congratulations everyone!
Wow... what a team the World Team turned out to be.
Truly, a very well deserved victory!
|Jan-11-07|| ||OhioChessFan: <Arno Nickel: Itís still hard to say at exactly which point of the game Black was definitely lost.>|
<I'd say it was when we tucked away our king with h3 and Kh2. At that point, Black's counterplay, and our troubles, vanished like magic. White had plenty of targets to attack and very little defensive responsibility.>
LOL, just can't pull myself away. <jepflast> I long suspected that GMAN was relying on the Rooks of Death line, and realized too late that it didn't work. I guess we'll find out for sure in the near future.
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