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Jul-02-07
 | | chessgames.com: Registration for the Chessgames Challenge against World champion Gert Jan Timmerman begins today. The game will officially begin on August 1st. The rollover time for moves is tentatively 12:00 noon USA/Eastern time (exactly like the Shulman game), however I will speak to Mr. Timmerman shortly and if he prefers a different time of the day we will update this. Other specifications/rules for this challenge:
• The game is open to all members; a premium membership is not required to play. • Computer analysis is allowed.
• The voting system will be OPEN VOTING, which means that you can see all moves as well as the number of votes that they receive. • The time per move is set to 3 days per half-move, making this the longest Chessgames Challenge to date. More information can be found at the Chessgames Challenge Help. Good luck to all participants! Let's hope for a great contest. |
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| Jul-02-07 | | chessmoron: First! Time for 3rd Opponent! |
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| Jul-02-07 | | Bridgeburner: I'm looking forward to this. |
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| Jul-02-07 | | chessmoron: I choose d4 for KID. |
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Jul-02-07
 | | GoldenKnight: Signing in. |
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| Jul-02-07 | | Bridgeburner: He has a good record against King Pawn openings : 22 losses, 46 wins and 24 draws. Repertoire Explorer: Gert Jan Timmerman (black) |
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| Jul-02-07 | | who: <cg.com> If GMYS hasn't resigned by then will there be two games running at oncec? |
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| Jul-02-07 | | Bridgeburner: On the other hand, his results against 1.d4 are more even: 26 losses 19 draws and 24 wins. Repertoire Explorer: Gert Jan Timmerman (black) How complete or indicative this database may be is another question. |
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| Jul-02-07 | | Bridgeburner: He's only won 4 out of 25 games he's played with the Dutch Defence, and lost 14: Repertoire Explorer: Gert Jan Timmerman (black). I wonder why he's played the Dutch so often? |
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Jul-02-07
| | chessgames.com: <who> If Shulman's game is still going at August 1st, then yes, there will be two games occurring simultaneously. |
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| Jul-02-07 | | Bridgeburner: <chessgames.com> Out of curiosity, why three days instead of 2? |
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| Jul-02-07 | | AgentRgent: <Bridgeburner: <chessgames.com> Out of curiosity, why three days instead of 2?> Probably because our opponent preferred it. For a CC player 3 days is quite a fast time control. |
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Jul-02-07
| | chessgames.com: Timmerman felt that 48 hours is a bit fast for a correspondence player, but he also understood that it's an exhibition game so typical rules need not apply. He then proposed that we compromise at 3 days per move. We were happy to do that. Besides, who ever said that 48 hours per move is the perfect pace? Maybe after this game we'll decide that all challenges should be at a 3-day rate. |
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| Jul-02-07 | | whatthefat: I'm excited by this one!
It's <1.d4> for me. I note from the repertoire explorer that Timmerman typically employs the KID, but often played the Dutch(!) when he was more active. |
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Jul-02-07
 | | SwitchingQuylthulg: I see no reason to play a weakening move, let alone one Timmerman is familiar playing against. 1.b3 for me. |
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| Jul-02-07 | | lazydaisy: I simply love such sirprises when i wake up in the morning. yet another team game, how exciting!
who is G Timmerman btw? sorry but never heard of him |
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| Jul-02-07 | | whatthefat: <lazydaisy: who is G Timmerman btw? sorry but never heard of him> 15th World Correspondence Chess Champion. |
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| Jul-02-07 | | sanyas: <SwitchingQuylthulg> lol If we win this, will a SuperGM agree to play us? We have a good chance here, even against a World Champion; the cg.com analysis team is pretty formidable. Plus we outnumber him by quite a bit, and that's got to count for something. We have proven our ability to take sensible decisions as a group, so that shouldn't work against us. Let's deviate from theory early this time. Anything that Rybka finds comfortable to play shouldn't be too bad for us. |
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| Jul-02-07 | | chessmoron: <sanyas> We won't copy Rybka's opening. The opening is solely on us and depending on a computer's opening is stupid. |
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| Jul-02-07 | | MostlyAverageJoe: <chessgames.com> If open voting is used, shouldn't the number of draw offers also show up in the header? Just curious.
And don't ask me how I know that draw offers do not show up :-) MAJ, class clown |
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| Jul-02-07 | | sanyas: <chessmoron> We don't play any old idea of Rybka's of course, but as with <Honza Cervanka> and <Viennalover>'s 12...f5 idea against Shulman, we find an unusual move which looks interesting to us, build some consensus and then see if Rybka likes the lines, meaning it can't be refuted easily. Only this time I was hoping that we could try and look for something innovative earlier on. After all, we do have the White pieces. Surely everyone has their pet opening eccentricities which they'd like to see at a high level, and if other people like the idea then all else seeming to be equal we shouldn't be scared but go for it. |
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| Jul-02-07 | | sanyas: <MostlyAverageJoe> we're not even seeing the third preference. I want 1.♘f3. |
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| Jul-02-07 | | Ryan Razo: Why not 1. ♘f3? Maybe we could go hypermodern for the first few moves and get on to the main lines later. ...or maybe we can play the Reti Opening, KIA against him. |
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| Jul-02-07 | | ganstaman: As always, we will play what we feel is the strongest move at all times. Whether it's at the top of bottom of the computer's list, it will be played if it's best (or maybe 2nd best -- we can't be perfect). Deviating for the sake of it will ruin our chances. That said, I have certain principles I can't break. 1. f4 for me, though I know (and possibly secretly hope) it won't win. Oh, and if we can get some more info to show that 1. e4 or 1. d4 will indeed be better than the other given our opponent and the nature of this game, that would be great. It's never too early to start real debate. |
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| Jul-02-07 | | kellmano: I say start as we mean to continue:
1. e4 (0.12) Rybka 23-ply |
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