|Jan-13-04|| ||Whitehat1963: Rubinstein gets his butt whooped in no time here. Rather than 15 ... Qa5 which leads to problems, he would have been better off with something like: 15 ... Rb8, 16. Rfd1, Qe7 17. f4, Qc5+ 18. e3, Qb6 19. b3 or Rb1 with a slight lead for white. |
|Jan-13-04|| ||Whitehat1963: Is 15 ... Qa5 where Rubinstein goes wrong or is it even earlier? |
|Jan-13-04|| ||Chessical: <Whitehat1963> I agree that 15...Qa5 is a poor move, and then playing Qa2 was suicidal. In your line 15 ... Rb8 16. Rfd1 Qe7 why not 17.Nxd5? followed after the exchanges by e4?|
Perhaps Rubinstein should have played 15...d4, opening up the B's against Marshall's Q-side.
|Jan-14-04|| ||Cyphelium: I think Whitehat's point might be that after 15.- Rb8 16. Rfd1 Qe7 17. Nxd5 Bxd5 18. Bxd5, then 18.- Bxb2 looks pretty drawish. |
On 15.- d4, maybe white is somewhat better after 16. Ne4, e.g. 16.- Bf5 (16.- Bxa2!? 17. b3)17. Nxf6+ Qxf6 18. Qb5. Looks much better than the game though.
|Jan-14-04|| ||Banoboy: Rubinstein is playing the Tarrasch Defense and facing his own system of playing against the Tarrasch. No wonder he lost! |
|Jan-14-04|| ||Benjamin Lau: It's actually a bit more complicated than that. Rubinstein was the one who largely developed the theory (the opening variations and rationale) behind the g3 innovation against the Tarrasch defense but Marshall was actually the first prominent player to play it (his games are among the first in both D33 and D34). Thus, you have to give Marshall some credit too in this game. He and Rubinstein both played a part in this amazing opening innovation which many for years believed was almost an outright refutation to the Tarrasch. Spassky and Kasparov later revived the opening, but after Karpov beat Kasparov in two key games during a WC match in which Kasparov had used the Defense, Kasparov moved on to the Grunfeld, KID, and other variants in the QGD. |
|Jun-20-17|| ||RookFile: Yep. Marshall was terrific in the openings and the chess world owes him a great debt for the ideas he pioneered.|