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Pierre Charles Fournier de Saint Amant vs Howard Staunton
Staunton - Saint Amant (1843)  ·  Sicilian Defense: McDonnell Attack (B21)  ·  0-1
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Jan-16-03  Kenneth Sterling: Playing 38...Rh8 going to for the kill straight away would have lost to 39. Qc7+.
Jun-24-03  fred lennox: Goode eye <Kenneth>. Any thoughts on 39 d7?
Jun-24-03  drukenknight: what do they call the e6 sicilian? Kan or something. Here is Staunton playing it 100 years early.

Obviously these two guys know nothing of modern day opening theory. "Hey you cant play your pawn out to e5 like that."

Jun-24-03  drukenknight: how about 34 d6?
Jun-25-03  drukenknight: uh-oh wait a minute. Go back to move 31.
Jun-26-03  SicilianDragon: Drunkenknight,

This is not a Kan because the Kan is part of the Open Sicilian complex. 2. f4 is today considered to be refuted by 2...d5! 3. exd5 Nf6 known as the Tal Gambit, this site doesn't have the original game where it was played (which Tal won) but check out Hartson-Tal Hartston vs Tal, 1979

Jun-26-03  drukenknight: okay, well there is a name for those sicilians that feature the early e6. Heck half of the sicilian players play an early e6, the others play d6.

what do you see on whites 31st move?

Mar-15-04  mtalfan104: I think it's called the Paulsen Sicilian, but I'm not quite sure
Mar-15-04  TrueFiendish: fred lennox: 39.d7 Rxc2 40.d8Q+ Qxd8 41.Rxd8+ Kc7 and black wins the ending, I think.
Sep-28-04  HOTDOG: prova(my first post)
Sep-28-04  HOTDOG: first of all sorry for my terrible English:

GM Raymond Keene's analysys:

5...Qb6 (theoretical novelty which attacks the d4 pawn) 6.Bd3 (strange move,but the Bishop is directed in c2 to allow d2-d4) 10.Kh2 (to remove the King from the contrapposition with the Black Queen.St'Amant's moves are artificial,so that the French without committing any real mistake is in an inferior position.So we can say that St'Amant's whole opening plan is wrong.) 10...f5 (prophilaxis!this is a tipical Stauntonian move) 11.a3 (to push d2-d4 without the answer 11.d4 cxd4 12.cxd4 Nb4) 11...a5 (to control b4)
12.a4 (apparently incoherent after 11.a3,but a logical move because it controls the b5 square that Black has weakened with 11...a5) 13...h6 (Staunton doesn't castle to move the king side pawns against the White king.) 14.Re1! (if 14...g5? 15.Bxf5! exf5 16.e6 and the Black center collapses) 16.Nxd4 (if 16.cxd4 Nb4)
17.cxd4 (if 17.Qxd4? Qxd4 18.cxd4 Bxa3 gaining a piece) 17...g5 (beginning the attack against the White king) 18.Nb5!? (in search of counterplay,but now the b5 square is weak) 19...Rc4? (if 19...Qxb5?? 20.Ba4,but 19...gxf4 should have gained a tempo) 20...Rc8 (forced,if 20...Rxd4? 21.Be3)
25...Kd7! (despite the mistake in the 19. move,Black's advantage is clean:his Knigth is in a strong position and White is forced to exchange it,conceding a protected passed pawn.White has no active counterplay) 26.Qe3 (White had to protect the d4 pawn.if 27.Bxh6? Qxd4 and White's positon collapses) 29.Bxg5 (permitting the formation of a powerful pawn chain for Black,but White has no choice because after 29.Qb3 Bxf4+ 30.Rxf4 Qxd4 31.Rxf5 Qd2 32.Rf7+ Ke8 Black wins) 30...g4!? (if 30...Rc8 31.Rxf5 or 31.d5)
31.Rd1? (the decisive mistake.White had two options:A)31.d5 Qd4 32.dxe6+ Ke7 33.Rxf5 g3+ 34.Kh1 Rc8 35.Rf1 e3 with clear advantage for Black;B)31.Rxf5! Qxd4 32.Rf7+!(not 32.hxg4? Rh8+ 33.Rh5 Rxh5+ 34.gxh5 e3 or 32.Rf1 Qxe5+ 33.Kg1 gxh3 34.Qxh3 Qd4+ with Black's advantage)32...Kd8 33.Qg3! with good drawing chances) 32...Qd8!(transfering the attack on the h line)
33...Rc8! (if 33...Rh8? 34.dxe6+ Kc7 35.b6+ and White wins) 36.Qc5 (36.Rc1 with the idea Qc7+ is fruitless:36...Rh8+ 37.Kg1 Rh7! threatening 38...Qh8,38...e3 or 38...f3) 36...e3 (threatening 37...Qh4+, 38...Qf2+ e 39...Qxg2 mate) 38...Rc8! (38...Rh8?? 39.Qc7+ Ka7 40.Qxa5+ Kb8 41.Qc7+ Ka7 42.Ra1 mate) 39.Qe2 (better resistance with 39.d7 but after 39...Rxc2 40.d8=Q+ Qxd8 41.Rxd8+ Kc7 Black wins)

Sep-28-04  Lawrence: Hi, <HOTDOG>, a warm welcome from all of us.
Sep-28-04  HOTDOG: one circumstantiation:I'm NOT a good chess player,for example this is one of my ''better'' games(I was the White):

1.e4 e6 2.d3 d5 3.exd5 exd5 4.Nf3 Nf6 5.Nc3 Bb4 6.Bd2 0-0 7.Be2 h6 8.a3 Ba5 9.b4 Bb6 10.Na4 c6 11.Nxb6 Qxb6 12.0-0 Nbd7 13.Re1 Re8 14.c4 dxc4 15.dxc4 c5 16.Qc2 cxb4 17.axb4 Qc7 18.Bd3 Rxe1+ 19.Rxe1 Nf8 20.Bc3 Bg4 21.Bxf6 Bxf3 22.gxf3 gxf6 23.Re4 Ne6 24.Rh4 Kg7 25.Qd2 Rh8 26.b5 Ng5 27.Rg4 h5 28.Rg3 Kf8 29.Qb4+ Qe7 30.Qxe7+ Qxe7 31.Be4 b6 32.h4 Nxe4 33.fxe4 Rd8 34.Kf1 Rd4 35.Rg8 Rxe4 36.Ra8 Rxc4 37.Rxa7+ Ke6 38.Rb7 Rxh4 39.Rxb6+ Ke5 40.Rc6 Kd5 41.Rxf6 Kc5 42.Rf5+ Kb6 43.Kg2 Rb4 44.Rxh5 Rxb5 45.Rh6+ Ka5 46.Rf6 Rg5+ 47.Kf3 Rg7 48.Kf4 Kb5 49.Kd5 Rg5+ 50.Kd6 Rg7 51.Ke7 Kc5 52.Rxf7 Rxf7+ 53.Kxf7 Kd5 54.Kf6 Ke4 1/2-1/2

Mar-07-08  Knight13: 19...Rc4 20. Bd3 Rc8 is ridiculous.
Sep-17-10  nvrennvren: a great great game for new player..38.Rc8 is both for attack and defence. keep away white queen from mating opportunity and force it to e2 to block its own king.
Feb-05-12  Knight13: This is the same opening that was played many times in the 1834 La Bourdonnais vs McDonnell matches. But Staunton realizes 11... a5!, which La Bourdonnais neglected in many of his match games against McDonnell (if not all), preventing White from playing b4.
Feb-06-12  Knight13: Correction: La Bourdonnais actually played ...a5 many times in his matches in the same opening to prevent b4. Sorry. Staunton was following La Bourdonnais's example.

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