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| Dec-05-13 | | mysystem: With the deaths of Robert Byrne and Ruben Shocron in 2013, that leaves 11 out of the 42 opponents in "My 60 Memorable Games" still alive (I don't have info on the 1 amateur opponent, Ojars Celle): Sherwin
Olafsson
Walther
Benko
Spassky
Gudmundsson
Darga
Lombardy
Korchnoi
Bisguier
Portisch
Portisch and Spassky are the youngest (b 1937), Benko is the oldest (b, 1928) |
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Dec-05-13
 | | perfidious: Three of my Fischer-2s in MSMG still live: Benko, Lombardy and Bisguier. |
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| Dec-30-13 | | wordfunph: Game Quote:
"Had I known he was going to be world champion, I would have been nervous." - LM Ruben Shocron |
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| Dec-30-13 | | Petrosianic: Shocron was trying to be funny. Fischer was a world championship candidate when this game was played, so the idea of him being champion some day couldn't have come as a complete surprise. |
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| Dec-30-13 | | GoldenKnight: <mysystem: With the deaths of Robert Byrne and Ruben Shocron in 2013, that leaves 11 out of the 42 opponents in "My 60 Memorable Games" still alive (I don't have info on the 1 amateur opponent, Ojars Celle):> You missed John Blackstone, he should still be alive. I used to play in tournaments with him and was surprised to find him in there. He was a national master back then with no international rating that I knew of. I don't know about now. |
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| Dec-30-13 | | diceman: <You missed John Blackstone> There's no Blackstone game in
My 60MG. |
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Mar-30-14
 | | maxi: What I find most remarkable about this game (apart from the neat tactics involving 40.Bd7) is how strong Shocron's play was throughout it. The opening and middle game were played flawlessly (albeit perhaps a bit passively). He managed to keep Fischer at bay and even at the very end it still was an even game. But 38.Ra6 posed Shocron too difficult a problem. He had to play 38...Qd7, a difficult move to find. Aftr it White has three dangerous discoveries with its Rook (Rb6,Rxc,Ra6), and all had to be analysed. And that was his undoing, as he played instead the flawed 38...Qd8. |
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Apr-05-14
| | maxi: I meant 38.Rc6! |
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Mar-12-16
 | | cwcarlson: In MSMG (1969 first edition) Bobby gives 38...Qd7 39.Kh2 Rb1 40.Rc4 Qd3 41.Rc8+ Kg7 42.Qh4 Bg5! 43.43.Bg5 Rh1+ 44.Kh1 Qf1+ with a perpetual, but 43...Ng5 44.Qg5 Qe4 wins! White holds with 40.Rb6 or 40.Ra6. |
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| Mar-12-16 | | morfishine: <CG> Please erase "Shockin' Shocron" as a title for this game' This is just another insult in a long list of insults for game titles TY ***** |
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Mar-12-16
 | | Joshka: Also in Bobby's notes from 2007, he throws in a little tidbit from his close friend Eugene Torre! after 27...a5 "Eugene Torre once showed me a wild line beginning with 27. Kh3!? Qxg4+ 28. Kxg4 that was supposedly being discussed on some online discussion board by a correspondence chess player. I can't imagine anyone making such a move over-the-board." |
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| Feb-16-17 | | red1728A: The position after 20. g5 only appears twice in the database. Both Fischer victories from "My 60 Memorable Games." Fischer remarked on how well Shocron defended until 38...Qd8. 39...Qc8 may have been the saving move if not for 40. Bd7. That's why the game was titled, "A Small Oversight." |
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| Jan-17-19 | | Saniyat24: Robert rubs Ruben the wrong way...! |
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| Jan-17-19 | | Saniyat24: 23.g3...! |
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| Jan-17-19 | | Saniyat24: 28...Ra8 might have been better keeping the Black Queen centralized. |
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| Jan-17-19 | | RookFile: With 26....cxb3 you can actually argue about who is better. Black is very much in the game. |
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| Jan-17-19 | | Saniyat24: but then White's light squared bishop would have been a nagging threat for the Black King...?! |
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| Jan-17-19 | | Saniyat24: I tried Stockfish recommendation for White, and tried my hand as Black after 22...Ra8 making some weird knight moves to make it interesting, but by move 44 reached a position where it is checkmate for White in further 9 moves... below is one of many possibilities after, 22...Ra8 23.23. g3 c4
24. Kg2 Nd7
25. Rh1 Nf8
26. b4 Qe6
27. Qe2 a5
28. ba5 Ra8
29. Be3 Nd7
30. a4 Rxa5
31. axb5 Rxa1
32. Rxa1 Bc5
33. Ra6 Qe7
34. Rc6 Bxe3
35. Qxe3 Nf8
36. Rxc4 Ne6
37. b6 Rb8
38. Bb3 Nd8
39. Rb4 Kf8
40. Bd5 Nb7
41. Ra4 Nd8
42. c4 f6
43. Ra7 Qd6
44. c5 Qe7
and then...
45. Rxe7 Kxe7 46. c6 Nb7 47. Qa3+ Nd6 48. Qa7+ Nb7 49. Qxb8 Nd8 50. Qc7+ Ke8 51. Qd7+ Kf8 52. Qxd8+ Kg7 53. Qxf6# |
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| Jan-17-19 | | Granny O Doul: <There's no Blackstone game in
My 60MG.>
I demand a refund. |
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| Jan-18-19 | | Saniyat24: I want to see the cover of that book, it's not readily available here in Bangladesh. ....but I do have John Nunn and Graham Burgess written The Main Line King's Indian. I am gathering up the courage to play with that opening with black pieces... |
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| Jan-18-19 | | SChesshevsky: <Saniyat24...but I do have John Nunn and Graham Burgess written The Main Line King's Indian...> Some great KI games are the ones between Gligoric and Fischer. I especially like the line in Gligoric vs Fischer, 1970 This line or a similar one also had a slight mention by Petrosian in the book "Petrosian's Legacy" and "How to Open a Chess Game" where he basically summed it up "...with sharp play." |
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| Jun-22-19 | | thegoodanarchist: A better game title would be <Shocron Awe>, IMO. |
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Apr-26-22
 | | Sally Simpson: Ah this one...I've used this position in a class. I've still not decided if here....
click for larger view...Shocron played 38...Qd8 instead of 38...Qd7 because he did not like the idea of 39.Rxc4 with a discovered attack on the Queen (though Bobby points out then Qd3 and Rb1 gives Black a good attack. He's right and counter attacks after one has been pressing usually succeed.) so Shocron played Qd8 to hit the g5 pawn. Or did he see the Rxe6 idea and figured that his Qc8 was a trap the youngster had fallen into. (in them days a very good 16 year old was quite rare, today it is the norm.) Move 38. So perhaps we have to consider possible TT. Though it's not mentioned that only mean the flags were not hovering. Bobby saw the Bd7 idea before saccing the exchange on e6, Shocron missed it. and we, if we are honest, admit we would have missed it as well. That is what makes it so jaw dropping good. |
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| Jun-13-22 | | Mathematicar: Great Zwischenzug! |
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| Dec-08-24 | | ColdSong: Nice game,Fischer has very interesting ideas on both wings and manage to do something of his Bc2.Stockfish isn't impressed by white's edge all along though. |
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