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Garry Kasparov vs Veselin Topalov
"Kasparov's Immortal" (game of the day Apr-13-2013)
Hoogovens Group A (1999), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 4, Jan-20
Pirc Defense: General (B07)  ·  1-0

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Apr-15-11
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  tpstar: <Shams> Don't use that algorithm in court or you won't have a leg to stand on.

Maybe someone could air it out during the next leg of ChessBookie.

Apr-15-11  Mozart72: Good morning my fellow detractors. Move 33 could have been a draw for bothe players.
Apr-15-11  Jim Bartle: I still think you're kidding all of us, but I'll play along.

How about showing us how black can survive from this position at move 33:


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Apr-15-11  Mozart72: Did I mention that Kasparov's move 38 named this game "Kasparov's Immortal"?
Apr-15-11  Jim Bartle: Yes you did. A move made after the game was completely and indisputably won by white was the move which made it an immortal game.
Apr-15-11  Lil Swine: too complex for me.
Apr-16-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  LIFE Master AJ: Sounds like "bovine breezes" to me.
Apr-16-11
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  LIFE Master AJ: Jeff Sonas is a REAL mathematician ... someone should ask him what is wrong with this sytem.
Apr-16-11  Mozart72: Well, Mr. Jeff Sonas. What's wrong with my system, the "unite-count %"?
Apr-17-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  LIFE Master AJ: I am not Sonas.

Write him a letter ...

Apr-17-11
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  LIFE Master AJ: Personally, I think your system is severely flawed, however, I would NOT qualify myself as a trained mathematician!!!
Apr-17-11
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  LIFE Master AJ: By the way, the word is "HYPOTHETICALLY."

Hard to trust/believe someone that cannot even spell correctly. (Makes me wonder if you are not some addled teen-ager.)

Apr-17-11  Mozart72: Not and addled teen-ager. A mexican who's mother tong is spanish and who's universal toung is mathematics.
Apr-17-11  Mozart72: By the way, <Life Master AJ>, I would be more than glad if you gave me Jeff Sonas e-mail.
Apr-17-11  nimh: I can give you his e-mail. Everyone who is interested in chess statistics knows this, it's never been a secret.

jeffsonas@gmail.com

Apr-17-11  Mozart72: Thanks <nimh> for revealing the non-existing secret.
Apr-17-11
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  LIFE Master AJ: <nimh> Thanks.

It would be nice if someone wrote him an e-mail and explained <Mozart72>'s system to him.

I am betting he could punch a million holes in it. (I won't do it. I consider Jeff a friend and I would not bother him unless I thought it was really important.)

He is a very smart guy and actually has written articles for both USCF and FIDE.

Maybe you want to do it?

Apr-17-11
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  LIFE Master AJ: Actually - on second thought - I think I will email him.

He is the only guy I know qualified to comment on matters of math. (and chess)

Apr-17-11  micartouse: Mozart72 is just lampooning the posters who go overboard extending probability to past hypothetical matches. There, I said it. I know Tomlinsky once said Americans ruin jokes by explaining them, but c'mon, this is just nervewracking to watch people fall for the next iamverywellatchess.
Apr-17-11  Mozart72: <LIFE Master AJ>, Do send him my "Unit-Count %" chart to him and see what he has to say about it. My e-mail is: rgilq@yahoo.com

I will also e-mail him.

Apr-17-11
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  plang: <Mozart72: No chess game is innocent, keypusher, and you have the right to do as you wish.>

I would think a chess game is innocent until proven guilty!?!

Apr-17-11  micartouse: No chess game is innocent if it is an Alekhine victory and Calli is kibitzing it.
Apr-18-11
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  LIFE Master AJ: I did e-mail Sonas ... as to whether he ever replies, who knows?
Apr-18-11  Mozart72: He replied yesterday night.
Apr-19-11
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  LIFE Master AJ: Some problem-like positions from this game. [(Kasparov - Topalov; Wijk aan Zee; 1999.) See the web page, http://www.ajschess.com/lifemastera..., for analyis.]

***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** *****

First position:


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White to play: 24. '?'

***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** *****

Second position:


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White to play: 28. '?'

***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** *****

Third position:


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White to play: 33. '?'

***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** *****

The fourth (and final) position:


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White to play: 36. '?'

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