| Dec-18-02 | | Kulla Tierchen: Oll's story is known to all. I've told it once or twice myself and perhaps will do so again, but not just now. For now I want to convey some thoughts on this game I had a few days ago and then return to my research on Alekhine. I have three different games set up even now on my traveling sets. Did you know that pocket sets and traveling sets are not the same thing? I tell you gentlemen, there is a definite difference! |
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| Dec-18-02 | | Kulla Tierchen: 13. dc Poor Oll! The prosaic cd is not the sort of move which would have
occurred to him. Even the simple 0-0 would have sufficed. |
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| Dec-18-02 | | Kulla Tierchen: Did I forget to mention that this was in the Biel interzonal of 1993? Oll
ended with a score of 7/13 in a field of 73 players. Anand had 8 points and qualified for
the Candidates' round, this game between them was the difference. By move 20
white's position was hopeless, Oll could stand no more and played the suicidal 20.
Nxe2. He could have delayed the inevitable with 20. Kh1; but he knew, better than
most of us as it turned out, that it's Oll the same in the end! |
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| Dec-18-02 | | Ghoul: You have outdone yourself here. |
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| Dec-19-02 | | PVS: I join in Ghoul's applause. |
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| Dec-21-02 | | knight errant: <Did you know that pocket sets and traveling sets are not the same thing?> Yes, a true pocket set is two dimensional. |
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| Dec-21-02 | | Kulla Tierchen: Exactly! And how often one must hear the terms confused with one another! Tous ces gens du bas étage sont comme ça. |
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| Dec-21-02 | | PVS: It's these peasants on airplanes who do it all the time who really gall me. |
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| Dec-21-02 | | mdorothy: haha, peasants... i guess we chess players are just a cut above, right? |
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| Dec-23-02 | | Sylvester: Aren't the peasants on the airplanes chessplayers too if they have the pocket sets? |
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| Jan-06-03 | | THE GENERAL: sylvester has a point. |
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| Sep-17-03 | | knight errant: notes:
13.dxc5 is the losing move. Should White have played 13.cxd5 or castled? 13.cxd5 cxd4 14.exd4 Nxd5 15.Nxd5 Bxd2+ 16.Qxd2 exd5 17.0-0 13.0-0 cxd4 14.Nxd5 Nxd5 15.cxd5 Bxd2 16.Qxd2 dxe3 17.Qxe3 exd5 18.Bf3 |
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| Dec-25-07 | | notyetagm: In Volume I of Kasparov's Modern Chess book, Kasparov writes that he was <"astonished with the ease with which Black won this game">, or something very close to that. |
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| May-29-23 | | boz: Interesting old posts from Tierchen at the dawn of civilization. I wonder if he knew Oll. Glad to know I have a true pocket set. Soviet era. I like it because you can see the positions as they appear in diagrams. Studied many positions with it years ago. Of course smart phones put such things out of circulation. |
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May-29-23
 | | HeMateMe: Hey, I love the pun! |
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| May-29-23 | | goodevans: <knight errant: notes: 13.dxc5 is the losing move...> Yes and no.
<13.dxc5> was a poor move that allowed Black to put White under considerable pressure. But White could have continued to soak up the pressure with <17.Bd3> (17...Rfd8 18.Rad1 or 17...Nd4 18.Qd1) but that wasn't to Oll's liking and he chose counterattack with <17.Qa4> instead. The counterattack never got going and so objectively 17.Qa4? was the losing move. But from a OTB playing perspective, 13.dxc5? was indeed a mistake that could be blamed for the loss. Nice pun. |
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May-29-23
| | HeMateMe: I owned a magnetic pocket set. Used it on the bus. |
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| Dec-19-24 | | mel gibson: I got this one wrong.
I thought 18. .. BxN which leads to a draw.
Stockfish 17 says:
18. .. Nd4
(18. .. Nd4 (1. ... Nd4 2.Qxb4 Nxe2+ 3.Nxe2 Qxa1 4.Bc3 Qxa2 5.Bxf6 gxf6 6.Ng3 Qd2 7.Qa3 f5
8.c6 h6 9.Qb3 Qf4 10.Nh5 Qg5 11.c7 Rc8 12.Qd1 Rxc7 13.f4 Qe7 14.Rf3 Kh8 ) +2.19/50 660) score for Black +2.19 depth 50. |
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| Dec-19-24 | | rainingpieces: Is there a defence against 18..Rc8? Nc3 and Be2 are both threatened |
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Dec-19-24
 | | chrisowen: Pen c quicky its v um jail Nd4 gg ach its match its abridge its lib Nd4 boxed; |
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| Dec-19-24 | | vajeer: Got Nd4 after some deliberation. This also feels a bit harder than Thursday. While it's easy to see winning material in the text line, one has to evaluate 19. Bd1 and 19. Bd3 also before playing 18...Nd4 |
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| Dec-19-24 | | Captain Hindsight: Better would have been < 17. Bd3 > as < goodevans > already pointed out. |
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| Dec-19-24 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: With the simple line is: 18...Nd4 19. Qxb4 Nxe2+ 20. Nxe2 Qxe2... B didn't get much. Maybe, better would be: 18...Ne4 19. Nxe4 Qxa1 20. Bxb4 Qb2 21. Bf3 Nxb4. Other possibility is: 18...Ne4 19. Qxc6 Nxc3 20. Bxc3 Bxc3 21. Rac1 Bd2 22. Rce1 Bxe1 23. Rxe1 Rd2 24. Qf3 Rb8 25. g3 h6 26. Kf1 Rbb2 etc. |
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Kibitzing
sac: 18...Nd4