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| Jul-26-05 |
| DP12: The critical line appears to be Be6!?(instead of c6) Re5 Qc6! (Qd7 lead to disaster in the Glek game). Quite a tricky line and maybe good for lower level tournaments. Be6 seems like a good answer, after Qxc7 black plays Bd6 and then castles banking on his two bishops lead in develop and the lack of coordination in white's camp to secure equality. |
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| Jul-26-05 |
| DP12: Sorry for the posts but I just thought I would point out that g4!? instead of Nc3 seems to be a wild attempt to prevent this possibility of Be6 because black is forced to play Bg6 and therefore after Nc3 Nc3 Qc3 must find a different defensive scheme. |
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| Jul-26-05 |
| DanRoss53: Thanks for your comments. Your line 13...  e6 14.  e5  c6 was used here: Van der Wiel vs Short, 1985 -- quite an exciting finish by John Van der Wiel. |
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| Jul-27-05 |
| DP12: Yes even if they equalize by playing exactly, it is still possible to play (really nice) chess as Van der Wiel shows. Bg5 is an important move denying black the two bishops. I doubt black was worse out of the opening but still its an interesting line to try out. Give it a try the next time you get a chance! I'll also try it and let you know what happens. |
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| Aug-02-05 |
| DanRoss53: Two other games that reach the same position after 13... e6 14. e5 c6: Ding Linlin vs S Petronic, 2001
A Giaccio vs J Pierrot, 2001
...both continue 15. d5 xd5 16. e1 d7 17. d2 f6 18. xd5!? xd5 19. b4 sacrificing the Rook for initiative. Black loses in the first game with 19... f7 and wins in the second with 19... c5 Karjakin also used this line in the U10 Championships in 2000 (not in the database): [Event "Wch U10"]
[Site "Oropesa del Mar"]
[Date "2000.10.11"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Karjakin,Sergey"]
[Black "Lintchevski,Daniil"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Eco "C42"]
1.e4 e5 2. f3 f6 3.xe5 d6 4.f3 xe4 5.d4 d5 6.d3 c6 7.0-0 e7 8.c4 b4
9.cxd5 xd3 10.xd3 xd5 11.e1 f5 12.c3 xc3 13.xc3 e6 14.e5 c6 15.e1 0-0-0 16.g5 xg5
17.xg5 g6 18.c5 d6 19.ac1 d5 20.a5 b6 21.xc7+ xc7 22.xc7+  xc7 23.xa7+ b7 24.a3 he8
25.h3 1-0 |
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Oct-07-06
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| lostemperor: Out of the most unexpected moves ever this 14. Bh6 must be a candidate. Bisguier must have been flabbergasted. Stacked, tagged and bagged! |
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Oct-07-06
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| Sneaky: <RookFile: There's actually a story about 14. Bh6. Somebody, I think it was Zuckerman, revealed later that Bobby Fischer had known about that move for
a long time before this game had been played> Does that mean that Fischer showed the idea to Browne, or was it an independent discovery? |
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Oct-07-06
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| pawn to QB4: Hi CRWynn - how about 17...gh 18. Nxe6 fxe6 19.Rxe6 Rg7 20. d5 threatening 21.d6 and Qxg7? Possible reply 20...Kf8 runs into 21. Qxg7+ with a winning rook ending. Just a guess and I'll probably get shot down by some passing computer. |
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| Oct-07-06 |
| WuTank: is it possible to set a mate with just rock and king? |
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Oct-07-06
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| technical draw: <WuTank> Sure, just grab the opposing King and smash his head with the rock. |
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| Oct-07-06 |
| aw1988: While drawnical draw is very funny, to be serious for a moment, yes, it is possible to mate with rook and king against king. |
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| Oct-07-06 |
| RookFile: <Does that mean that Fischer showed the idea to Browne, or was it an independent discovery?> Browne spent a lot of time on the position, and actually found Bh6 over the board. |
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| Oct-07-06 |
| aw1988: It's not impossible. Still a really good move, but with enough time a GM could find it. |
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| Oct-07-06 |
| RookFile: <who: How would Bobby Fischer ever play that move, when he never played the Petroff as black, and as white always played 3.d4?> He played both 3. d4 and 3. Nxe5.
Fischer vs Gheorghiu, 1970 |
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Oct-07-06
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| technical draw: Very funny..DRaw1988...LOL |
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Oct-07-06
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| Phony Benoni: However, Rock and king do not win against Steinitz.
Steinitz vs Rock, 1863 |
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| Oct-07-06 |
| aw1988: DrawFile
I can be clever too! |
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| Oct-07-06 |
| RookFile: Through move 13 of this game, it's hard to find a move of Bisguier's that didn't seem logical. And then, all of a sudden, Browne figures out 14. Bh6!! over the board. The players during the championship were amazed at how long he was taking over his 14th move. The were saying: "It's almost like Browne thinks there is a forced win for white!". There basically was! |
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| Oct-07-06 |
| dhotts: 14.Bh6 looks brilliant, but what's wrong with simply taking the bishop 14...gxh6? It prevents 17.Ng5 as occurs in the game. |
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Oct-08-06
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| kevin86: White manages to win a brilliant one! The ending is elementary-the king is close enough to head off the black pawn. If the white king is present,almost any rook vs pawn ending is won---with both kings absent TWO connectors are needed to win. With the black king only near,one pawn could draw and two could win. |
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| Oct-08-06 |
| RookFile: dhotts: I'm not sure. Certainly after 14. Bh6 gxh6 15. Re5 white is winning back the piece, for example 15....Qd7 16. Rae1 Be6 17. d5. |
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Dec-10-06
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| Eyal: Browne's 14.Bh6!! is considered by Jonathan Speelman, in his "Best Chess Games 1970-80", as one of the best moves of the decade - together with Fischer's 22.Nxd7+ in Fischer vs Petrosian, 1971, Karpov's 24.Nb1 in Karpov vs Spassky, 1974, Karpov's 19.Rd3 in Karpov vs Korchnoi, 1974, and Korchnoi's 30.h3 in Korchnoi vs Spassky, 1977. |
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| May-23-08 |
| OBIT: As much a showman as Browne was, it wouldn't surprise me if he burned all this time on a prepared novelty to make it SEEM like he found it over the board. Having said that, his article on this game in the October 1974 "Chess Life" does make it seem like 14. Bh6 was found during the game. He calls this battle "one of the best games of my life. Innovating in the opening with a piece offer and making a similar offer later, I ended up in a rook ending which was an easy win, the perfect finish to a tense struggle." On Bisguier's 14...Rg8, Browne wrote: "After 45 minutes of grueling thought, my opponent made the most tenacious move. If 14...gxh6 15. Re5 Qd7 16. Rae1 Be6 17. d5 cxd5 18. Rxe6! fxe6 19. Qxh8+ Bf8 20. Qf6 Be7 21. Rxe6 and wins. If 14...Be4 15. Bxg7 Rg8 16. Bf6! Bxf6 (16...Bxf3 17. Rxe7+ Kf8 18. g3 Bh1 19. f3 and White is much better) 17. Rxe4+ Qxe4 18. Re1 and White is superior." Judging by his notes, Browne was as proud of 17. Ng5, which he also gives two exclamation points, as 14. Bh6. His comment to 17. Ng5 reads: "The only move to keep the advantage. I felt as though I were walking a tightrope: one small miscalculation, one little error, and I would throw away everything. Now if 17...Bf6 18. Nxe6 Bxe5 19. Nc5 and wins. If 17...gxh6 18. Nxe6 fxe6 19. Rxe6 Rg7 20. d5! Kf8 21. Qxg7+! Kg7 22. Rxe7+ Qxe7 23. Rxe7+ wins. Finally, if 17...Bxg5 18. Bxg5 h6 19. Bh4 g5 20. Bg3 Kf8 21. Rxe6! fxe6 22. d5 and wins, for instance 22...cxd5 23. Qf6+ Qf7 24. Bd6+ Ke8 25. Rxe6+." |
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Jul-26-08
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| chocobonbon: <RookFile> I think Larry Evans in one of his Chess Life & Review columns said that Fischer was watching some players at the club anaylze the position & reached over & dropped the rook on h6 without a word. I think Evans was unsure but thought that Browne was present. Good story, maybe apochryphal but credit Browne (at the least) for playing it OTB in a real game against a GM. The story could be embellished that Bisguier was also there that day & was trying to remember Fischer's followup. I was told by a club member that Fischer sometimes kibitzed like that. |
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