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| sahmattr: Does Fischer have any blinfolded games which end up with a similar checkmate? |
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| Feb-23-07 |
| Themofro: I once read somewhere that Blackburne announced mate in 16 during a blindfold game once, and was correct, can anyone confirm that? |
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Feb-24-07
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| tpstar: <Mate in 16> The game is Blackburne-Scott which is not in this database nor ChessBase 8.0. There are no games against NN which reach this position (here at cg.com), so it's very possible that the gamescore was lost to posterity and only the combination remains extant.
click for larger viewhttp://www.chessville.com/chessprin... |
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| Jun-24-09 |
| YoungEd: Hard to say which pleases more--the picturesque mate, or Blackburne's ever-illuminating annotations! |
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Jun-24-09
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| Once: A far advanced knight is a very dangerous beast. Once it gets to the fifth or sixth ranks, all sorts of combinations become possible. Many a NN has been slaughtered by a master when a knight gets this far up the board. But if one far advanced knight is dangerous, two can be particularly lethal. Especially when they stand side by side so that they each control different coloured squares. An easy mate to see, but pretty all the same. |
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| Jun-24-09 |
| hexkill: Um, that's quite funny:
NN plays 7. Bg5:
"Hah, I'm going to wreck your pawns, you have to move your e7 Knight again, and I'll have a pin... Yeah!" Blackburne plays 7...c6:
"What? You don't mind doubling those pawns? Why? Oh, the g-file will be opened... your Rook goes to g8... my King is castled in front of that attack... OK, I move back." |
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Jun-24-09
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| Once: Just ran this game through Fritz. The unblinking silicon monster reckons that white was doing just fine up to 18. Rf2? Instead, either 18. Qf2 or 18. Rg1 would have been perfectly okay - an eval of +0.5 for either move. Against patzers, strong players like Blackburne can make it look easier thsn it really is. |
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| Jun-24-09 |
| sfm: Indeed a beautiful mate, and against an opponent who plays chess well. |
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| Jun-24-09 |
| Samagonka: No other piece on the board causes so much havoc like the Knight. It has always been part of my strategy to sacrifice a Bishop or even two pawns in exchangeone for a Knight. It makes me feel more secure. |
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Jun-24-09
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| Chessmensch: <sfm> Does anyone else think NN played well? <Once>, implying he's a patzer seems right. Blackburne had a clear plan and executed it brilliantly. NN just moved pieces. |
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Jun-24-09
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| JohnBoy: In the puzzle above, <tpstar> has black's K on h7. It should be on g6 - I checked cuz I couldn't solve the puzzle as posted. |
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| Jun-24-09 |
| randomsac: Nice mate. |
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Jun-24-09
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| bennytschet: tpstar is the king of the puns! |
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| Jun-24-09 |
| ounos: What I particularly dislike in this:
<In this position I announced mate in two moves>
What???
They actually "announced" a mate to the opponent? Were people this rude back then? |
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Jun-24-09
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| kevin86: Note how the Cavaliers work together! A certain team in Cleveland could do the same if it didn't depend too much on one of them. This game is pure MAGIC! |
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| Jun-24-09 |
| lzromeu: lesson1: In litle castle avoid to move the h-pawn
lesson2: Against knights don't move the pawn, closed postions are better for then, open positions are better for bishops 2 or 3 another moves until 17o. round avoid the final mate, but all of then in a very bad postion Anonimous was a beginner, crushed. |
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| Jun-24-09 |
| tivrfoa: hello folks!
but if 14. gxh3?
does someone has a winning sequence?
thanks |
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| Jun-24-09 |
| Shams: <tivrfoa> 14.gxh3 Qxh3 and before white moves he must spot black's threat, which is Ng6-h4 with mate on g2 next. The King can't run anywhere so we need to find a piece to cover g2. In a parallel universe white could try 15.Nf3 Nh4 16.Ne1, defending, but in this one black has 15.Nf3 Qxf3. 15.Qe2 fails because ...Nh4 covers f3 a second time. The big point though is that white would love to play 14.f4, killing the attack in its tracks. But he can't-- do you see why? |
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| Jun-24-09 |
| Shams: <<ounos>What???
They actually "announced" a mate to the opponent? Were people this rude back then?> You'll get a kick out of <Calli>'s post on this page:
F Deacon vs J Robey, 1862 |
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| Jun-24-09 |
| WhiteRook48: so what? many people surprise the other by announcing "Checkmate in X moves" or something |
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Jun-24-09
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| Once: Ah, the good old days! It used to be quite nornal to announce mate in so many moves. I think it was thought of as a polite way of ending the game without wasting the other player's time. It wasn't meant to be rude - it was just the way that the game was played. But times change. Nowadays, an announced mate is frowned upon, except in correspondence and sometimes centaur chess where it can save a lot of time. |
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Jun-24-09
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| Marmot PFL: <<Mate in 16>> Blindfold or even not that's a little hard to believe. I am checking my computer to see if it can find it. |
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| Jun-24-09 |
| tivrfoa: Thanks <Shams>, but I think 15. f3 is better than Nf3. I couldn't find a good continuation for black after 14. ... Qxh3 15. f3
15. ... Bxe3+ 16. Qxe3 Nf4 17. Rd2
15. ... Nh4 16. Rf2 Qg3+ 17. Kh1
waiting for help. what you would play? |
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| Jun-24-09 |
| Shams: <tivrfoa> you are right, it's not nearly so simple. I apologize for thinking it was. Fritz says you are right, 14.gxh3 Qxh3 +.90. :) |
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Jun-24-09
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| tpstar: If you're thinking you're too cool to boogie (1. e4 e5)/Boy oh boy have I got news for you (2. Nf3 Nc6)/Everybody here tonight must boogie (3. Bc4 Bc5)/Let me tell you (4. 0-0 Nf6) you are no exception to the rule (5. d3 d6)/Get on up on the floor (6. h3 Ne7) 'cause we're gonna boogie oogie oogie [last book move] 'til you just can't boogie no more (7. Bg5 c6)/Boogie no more (8. Be3 Bb6), you can't boogie no more [8. c3 Bb6  ]/Boogie no more (9. Nc3 Ng6), listen to the music (10. Qd2 Be6)/There's no time to waste (11. Bb3 0-0), let's get this show on the road (12. Rad1 Qd7)/Listen to the music [12 ... Bxb3 13. axb3 Ba5 14. Qc1 =] and let your body flow (13. Nh2)/The sooner we begin [13. Bxe6 Qxe6 14. Bxb6 axb6 ] the longer we've got to groove (13 ... Bxh3)/Listen to the music [13 ... Ba5  and Black could well hope to play on] and let your body move (14. Bxb6 Bxg2)/Now get on up on the floor (15. Kxg2 Nf4+) 'cause we're gonna boogie oogie oogie (16. Kh1 axb6) 'til you just can't boogie no more (17. f3 N6h5)/Boogie no more [17. Ne2 N6h5  ], you can't boogie no more (18. Rf2?? Ng3+)/Boogie no more [18. Rg1  ], listen to my bass here (19. Kg1 Qh3)/Get down (20. d4??), boogie oogie oogie [20. Rg2 the only rescuing move]/Get down (20 ... Qg2+!!), boogie oogie oogie (21. Rxg2 Nh3#)/Get down ("the most beautiful mate we have ever seen in actual play"), boogie oogie oogie (0-1) - A Taste of Honey + Fritz 7, "Boogie Oogie Oogie"It's very bomb for Disco to make a comeback. :-)
My students named this Bxh6/... Bxh3 sacrifice with the Queen behind it as an APUVA (Always Play Unsound Violent Attack) after a friend of theirs. It usually works great in speed chess and fails miserably in tournament play. I'll bet Blackburne just expected to overwhelm his opponent, and he did. Likewise, White was probably very satisfied with his game right up until he got mated. This is one of the few times I tried to improve on the original Pun Contest entry already in the mix. No offense, but let's add "Blackburne" for "black" and/or "burn" to the overused idea list. =) <Blackburne-Scott> Sorry about the wrong diagram. Just making sure you're paying attention. ;>D |
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