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| DarthStapler: I don't get the pun |
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| Feb-12-09 |
| Jim Bartle: A take on "bought and paid for." Not owing anything. |
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Feb-12-09
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| Pyke: Botvinnik at his best; although 57 years old. Truely impressive! |
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| Feb-12-09 |
| tivrfoa: beautiful! black was naive, thought only in material. |
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| Feb-12-09 |
| Arbiter58: After 18) ... Kxf7. 19) Qc4+
then neither 19).. Qd5 nor 19) .. Re6 work because of 20) Ng5+. Also 19) .. Kf6 and 19) .. Ke7 are bad because of 20) Bg5+. Therefore only 19) .. Kg6 lets black survive for the moment after taking the rook, but should be in a mating net there. Didn't see the details though. Any thoughts? |
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Feb-12-09
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| whiteshark: I fully agree with <An Englishman>. My tactical eye is cataractic. |
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Feb-12-09
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| JG27Pyth: This game reminded me of some Botvinnik trivia I thought I should share -- Mikhail Botvinnik:
... stood 9'7" inches tall, weighed 613 lbs, and wore size 40 shoes. ... was born standing up and smoking
... showered in vodka
... is the uncredited studio musician who actually played Jimi Hendrix's Voodoo Chile solo. ... told a joke that made Death laugh; won the Estonian pickled-herring-in-gelatin eating contest; correctly guessed the number of jellybeans in the big jar; and impregnated the entire Soviet Army Women's chorus -- all in the same weekend. Also, Mikhail Botvinnik's pet Blue Ox, Babe, was a FIDE rated Expert. |
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| Feb-12-09 |
| cyclon: Incredible game! |
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Feb-12-09
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| Jimfromprovidence: Fantastic match.
One move by black I did not get, though, was 15...Nb8, allowing the rook incursion. 15...Qd7, below, looks like a good enough response to protect c6.
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Feb-12-09
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| kevin86: Not a bad day for the bishops-the king is routed and soon will be mated. |
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| Feb-12-09 |
| TheChessGuy: Portisch was known as the "Hungarian Botvinnik," and so the Patriarch decided to show who was who. Fantastic play from Mikhail Moiseevich! |
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| Feb-12-09 |
| estebanw: I agree 100% with Jimfromprovidence. The move allowed the rooks invasion. Could someone comment? |
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Feb-12-09
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| Pyke: According to Nunn, Portisch simply missed Botvinniks reply and thought that 16. Rxc7 was unfavorable since the tactical shot 16. ... Bc6 attacked both whites Rook and Queen; and therefore was losing material. So Portisch continued with his risky but natural plan of Nb8. It turns out however that Botvinnik looked a step further and more deeply. Hope this helps. |
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Feb-12-09
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| Once: Why 15...Nb8? Instead, 15...Qd7 or 15...h6 seem to give black a reasonable game. I think that Portisch's (flawed) logic went something like this: White's doubled rooks exert considerable pressure on c7. I would dearly love to be able to move my Nc6 out of the way and then play c6. Then the rooks would "bite on granite" and I could think about moves like b5 to kick away that annoying white queen. Of course, I can't move my knight away without losing the c7 pawn. Hang on ... maybe the c7 pawn is safe because 16. Rxf7 would be met by Bc6 and the rook is trapped. So my plan is Nb8 followed by c6 and then Nd7, and I have a perfectly good game. Unfortunately, this plan has a tactical refutation. 18. Rxf7! Now black cannot take the rook because of 18... Kxf7 19. Qc4+ Kg6 20. Qg4+ Kf7 21. Ng5+ Kg8 22. Qc4+ 
click for larger viewFrom here, black can only delay the smothered mate by giving away queen and rook. |
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| Feb-12-09 |
| ruelas007: the first time i saw this game i could only guess the last 4 moves, but the beginning of the combination was mind blowing! |
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Feb-12-09
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| parisattack: Botvinnik could play tactics with the best of them when the occasion presented itself. His games as White against Schimd 1960, 1965 also attest. Hypermodern openings with innocuous-looking positions can lead to speedy fireworks if black mis-steps. See also Petrosian-Pachman 1961. |
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| johnlspouge: < <JG27Pyth> wrote: This game reminded me of some Botvinnik trivia [snip] > <Pyth>, this is 2-nd funniest post I have seen on CG. Like Irving Berlin, you are your own worst competition. I showed your kibitzes to a co-worker who does not play chess...and he wants me to show them to him anytime! |
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| Feb-12-09 |
| WhiteRook48: I would have preferred "Hail to Botvinnik" |
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Feb-12-09
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| Frankygolucky: 21. ...,Qe6 seems to hold. I analyze 22.Qe4,Nd7
23.Ng6+,Kg8 How does White continue? |
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Feb-13-09
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| Once: <Frankygolucky: 21. ...,Qe6 seems to hold. I analyze 22.Qe4,Nd7
23.Ng6+,Kg8 How does White continue?>
This is the position at the end of your line:
click for larger viewFrom here, 24. Qxc6 seems strong. White threatens to win the black queen with Bd5. Now, 24...Qxc6 25. Bxc6 pins the black knight against the rook. Black can't defend the knight against the double attack of rook and bishop, so he may be forced to drop the exchange with 25...Nf6 28. Bxe8. White wins easily with his extra pawns. Back to the diagram above. If white tries to cover d5 with 24...Nf6, then white has 25. Ne7+. This breaks the protection of the queen from the Rf8. Black either has to drop the exchange with 25...Rxe7 26. Rxe7 or he tries to protect the queen with 25...Kf7. But that also loses to 26. Nd5+ Kg6 27. Qxe6 Rxe6 28. Nc7 forking both black rooks. I don't think 21...Qe6 holds. White's dominant position seems to guarantee that he will win back the exchange and leave black three pawns down. |
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Jun-06-09
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| refutor: one of Botwinnik's best |
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| Jul-04-09 |
| backrank: One of the greatest games ever, indeed.
A 'ghost rook' (which is doomed, to say the least) raging on the 7th rank ... very much reminiscent of another world famous game: Steinitz vs Von Bardeleben, 1895 Making the seemingly impossible thing possible in chess is always fascinating ... it fascinates (me) even more if such an improbable combination proves entirely correct (which is the case here). |
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| Jul-04-09 |
| MaxxLange: severe tactics at the end |
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| Jul-17-09 |
| totololo: I prefer Botvinnik when he decompressed to be World FUnny Guy and played real chess! |
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Oct-04-09
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| twoinchgroup: <Now black cannot take the rook because of 18... Kxf7 19. Qc4+ Kg6 20. Qg4+ Kf7 21. Ng5+ Kg8 22. Qc4+ click for larger view
From here, black can only delay the smothered mate by giving away queen and rook.> Once,
It would seem to me that there would be no smothered mate as a conclusion to your line rather 22...Qd5 23.Bxd5+ Kh8 24.Bg8(24.Bxc6 g6 27.Qf7 Re7 28.Qxf8++) g6 25.Qf7 Re7 26.Qxf8 Nd7 27.Qxf7 and etc.
I might be wrong here since I don't use a computer to analyse so.... |
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sac: 17.R1xc6
