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|Mar-15-15|| ||Penguincw: Never saw this game before, but I wish I had. It's a beauty.|
|Mar-15-15|| ||SimonWebbsTiger: Too famous for a puzzle. The game is 101 English. Great to know, though, chess fans like <penguinw> haven't seen it before. He could still pluck 'em, old Mikhail.|
|Mar-15-15|| ||playground player: I always run out of men to sacrifice before I can get to a finish like that.|
|Mar-15-15|| ||SimonWebbsTiger: The Soviet Botvinnik as a pun?|
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|Mar-15-15|| ||Jimfromprovidence: I had never seen this game. It was quite a treat.
I was looking at the line 17 R1xc6 Nxc6 18 Rxf7 Nd4?!
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The idea was to free up...b5 and protect against Qb3. White refutes it with 19 Rd7!
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One elegant finish goes 19...b5 20 Rxd8 bxa4 21 Rxa8 Rxa8 22 Nxd4.
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|Mar-15-15|| ||PJs Studio: "Insane"
Yep. I'm embarrassed to say I've never seen this game. I have only started studying Botvinnik recently.
I didn't know his scientific nature could be so tactical. 21.Nh4(!!) really? Qf7 (which probably doesn't work), is all I saw. The depth of his attack is broad and deep.
|Mar-15-15|| ||scormus: <Once> and <PJs Studio> I admit it, I never saw this game before. Right from my first look at the position I knew I'd get much more satisfaction from playing it through than trying to solve it. And so it was ....|
I sort of guessed R1xc6 and Rxf7 would be played, on aesthetic as much as anything. But no idea how Botvinnik would finish the job.
Amazing vision on Botvinnik's part :)
|Mar-15-15|| ||al wazir: <ASchultz: This is probably not a quick killer, but Nxe5 Qxc4 Nxc4 leaves the undeveloped Black queenside exposed. He is already down 3 (center) pawns for the exchange>. Yes, black has to lose at least one, probably two more ♙s.|
|Mar-15-15|| ||Longview: As I see the situation, White has a Queen and a rook each under attack and unprotected. That leads to consideration of 17. R1xc6 or R7xc6. Black can comfortably reply 17...bxc6 or Nxc6 gaining on the exchange but white maintains the edge. I was surprised by 18. Rxf6 and more by its reply h6. But then 19. Qc4+ looks pretty strong and roots the king from his lair. I was expecting 18. Bb6 xraying the Queen and moving the Rook with a discovered attack. Too slow obviously because 18...Qf6 puts Black in a good defense of the pawn and the knight and his is back in the game while white is down the exchange. Houdini chose the Nxc6 as a better response, by the way.|
|Mar-15-15|| ||waustad: I started right but got completely lost.|
|Mar-15-15|| ||barabas: What kind of language chrisowen is using?|
|Mar-15-15|| ||OhioChessFan: <barabas> consider expectations possibly <chrisowen> some of sort training by the enjoyment random great new and explanation us generated of your then computer while geometrical self the wonder after language because to translated throughout perhaps seriously eclectic am precision. Take or yesterday from chessgames.com is try?|
|Mar-15-15|| ||WannaBe: <OCF> That's pretty darn good!|
|Mar-15-15|| ||TheBish: Botvinnik vs Portisch, 1968|
White to play (17.?) "Insane"
White is up a pawn, but his rook is trapped by the bishop on c6, which is also attacking White's queen. So it's pretty clear that White must give up the Exchange for starters. But after that, what? How about another rook?
17. R1xc6! bxc6
Or 17...Nxc6 18. Rxb7 with threats of Qxc6, Ng5 and Qc4 (Qb3).
18. Rxf7!! Kxf7 19. Qc4+ Kg6
Or 19...Ke7 (Kf6) 20. Bg5+, winning the queen; 19...Re6 20. Ng5+; 19...Qd5 20. Ng5+.
20. Qg4+ Kf7
Once again, if 20...Kf6 21. Bg5+ is deadly.
21. Ng5+ Kf6
Or 21...Ke7 22. Qe6#; 21...Kg6 22. Ne6+, winning the queen; 21...Kg8 22. Qc4+ Kh8 23. Nf7+ Kg8 24. Nh6+ Kh8 25. Qg8#.
22. Qf3+ Ke7
Or 22...Kg6 23. Qf7+ Kh6 24. Ne6+.
23. Qf7+ Kd6 24. Ne4#.
|Mar-16-15|| ||Moszkowski012273: VERY instructive...|
|Mar-16-15|| ||Helios727: In the final position, what happens after 26. ... Kf6 ?|
|Mar-16-15|| ||shivasuri4: <Helios727>, if 26...Kf6, White follows up with 27.Qf4+ Ke6 28.Qf5+ Kd5 (Ke7 loses to Bg5#) 29.Bf7+ Qxf7 30.Nxf7+ and White has an easy win.|
|Mar-17-15|| ||Moszkowski012273: Not true <shivasuri4> black gets checkmated via 28.Bf7+...|
|Mar-18-15|| ||shivasuri4: What do you mean by "not true"? 28.Bf7+ also wins after 28...Ke7 29.Qg5#, but there's nothing wrong with the line I've provided.|
|Mar-18-15|| ||Moszkowski012273: Why mate in twelve when you can mate in four?|
|Oct-18-15|| ||maseras: what are u thinking about 12...Bd5?
Should Black play 12...f5?
|May-07-16|| ||celsochini: TKS AJ!|
|Aug-09-16|| ||j4jishnu: b. e. a. u. t. y.|
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