| Apr-09-06 | | Whitehat1963: How might this game play on? |
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| Apr-09-06 | | psmith: <Whitehat1963> 17... Bxh6 18. Qxg5 Qxg5 19. fxg5 wins a piece. Or 17... Bf8 18. Ng5+ Kg8 19. h7+ Kg7 20. Qh2 winning. |
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| Apr-10-06 | | Whitehat1963: I see, thanks! |
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| Jul-30-08 | | whiteshark: According to Tarrasch Steinitz said afterwards to Charousek: <"If you choose such a weird opening, you shouldn't be surprised if you lose th game!"> |
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| Oct-04-08 | | Xeroxx: 6..c5 instead of d5 :( |
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| Sep-06-11 | | DrMAL: <Xeroxx: 6..c5 instead of d5 :(> Yes, if Pirc is played inaccurately the consequences are relatively severe, and 6...d5?! was poor. In fact, after move 6 EVERY move black made had some degree of inaccuracy to it (some like 12...Nxg6?! worse than others like 7...Ne8), proving how little he knew. The best in the world back then had much less knowledge than good players today. Just don't tell Chessmetrics, its "ratings" are historically inflated based on knowledge making no difference whatsoever in chess. For example, Charousek, is given a performance "rating" of 2674 during this tournament, now THAT'S rating inflation! http://chessmetrics.com/cm/CM2/Play... |
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| Jan-27-14 | | MarkFinan: < Yes, if Pirc is played inaccurately the consequences are relatively severe> Oh well, I may have to spend a good 6 months before I take my new defence of choice with the black pieces to the free internet chess server, LOL. I can see im going to be having some very short games in the near future!? � |
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Jan-27-14
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| Jan-27-14 | | MarkFinan: Cheers for that link, Perf. I'll have a look at the game shortly mate. And I noticed you commented on another page about the Pirc not being known as the Grunfeld -Nimzowitch?? Well I don't know openings like you, but I've not heard that one before either. Just been going through this Shredder vs Gull, 2013 that offramp posted in my forum the other week. Have you been through it before? #Mad ending! |
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| Jan-27-14 | | parisattack: I concur with <Xeroxx> and <DrMAL> - 6. ...c5 give Black a decent game; compare with Sniper and Pterodactyl. 6. Bd3 is the best shot for white to gain an advantage. Pirc is very unforgiving. Unlike the French (for example) black often has many candidates - and most of them are not so good, some poison. Botvinnik played a few nice Pirc' at the tail-end of his career but I don't know if anyone tested him with the Austrian Attack? I had much better success with the Robatsch. I think the Nf6 gets in the way of things more than it puts pressure on white's center. (He has after all saved a tempo for development by not playing c4.) |
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| Jan-28-14 | | MarkFinan: This is a pretty damn good game of chess. I half understand this move.. I think!? Fischer sacced the g pawn by playing 13.g4? to get some play on the kingside, and also drawing blacks queen over to the queenside so it can't help defend his king. I think that was the idea, although it was a big mistake because that's definitely where things started to go wrong for him.. 
click for larger viewAnd once Qh6 is played here, getting the queen back over the kingside it's completely over. Some nice tactical shots in this game, I like going through Fischer's games when he has the white pieces because he nearly always played for a win. 
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| Jan-28-14 | | MarkFinan: I probably should have posted that here Fischer vs Korchnoi, 1962! But I wanted Perf to see I wasn't ignoring him. |
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| May-05-15 | | whiteshark: <parisattack: <Botvinnik played a few nice Pirc' at the tail-end of his career but I don't know if anyone tested him with the Austrian Attack?>> I can see 3 Pirc <B09 Austrian Attack> games, played in 1964/1965/1966: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... and remarkably Botte has been also undefeated in the rest of the Pirc games (18 games in total). |
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| Jul-06-22 | | Ulhumbrus: Bent Larsen's remark on 3...g6 in game 18 of the match Karpov - Korchnoi World Championship Match (1978) in his book on the match includes the words <...In Nurnberg 1896 Charousek played this defence against Tarrasch and got murdered. He then turned to Steinitz and asked what he had done wrong. The ex-champion had played many strange openings in his day, but showed no understanding for this one. "Young man, when you play such a bizarre opening you should not be surprised if you lose"> |
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