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| pmarrone: Korchnoi's 15...Nxc2 is a pretty move. |
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Dec-21-08
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| Eyal: <This game is an object example of how one result can put even top players off a line; 6.Be2 is far from bad, yet Korchnoi's crushing victory here put 6.Bd3 in the spotlight> One important difference between the moves being that with the bishop on d3 supporting e4, the same Qa5-Qxc5 maneuver doesn't work, since Qa5 doesn't create the threat of Nxe4. This may be the only time in Fischer's career where he fell straight into what amounts to an opening trap. In the first 12 moves Korchnoi manages to transform the Pirc into a Sicilian Dragon setup, of a kind which is quite comfortable for Black, and then 13.g4?? blunders the game away. |
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Jan-14-09
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| Ulhumbrus: On 11 Nc4 b5 12 Be3 Qb4 13 a3 traps Black's Queen. |
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Jan-17-09
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| freeman8201: I read an article on Chess Life and Korchnoi was given advice by another Russian Player! This "player" told Korchnoi; Fischer would play a certin line against the Pirc Austrian and found an improvement to benefit black! |
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Jan-21-09
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| Eyal: <On 11 Nc4 b5 12 Be3 Qb4 13 a3 traps Black's Queen.> Instead of 11...b5(??), 11...Ng4! should give Black a good game, taking advantage of the bishop on e2 being overloaded by guarding both c4 and g4. |
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Jan-21-09
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| freeman8201: How can black benefit from 11...Ng4 |
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Jan-22-09
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| Eyal: <How can black benefit from 11.[Nc4] Ng4> It threatens Nf2+. After 12.Bxg4 Bxg4 13. Qxg4 Qxc4 Black is ahead in development and his pieces are more active; after 12.Qe1 Nb4 White is under pressure. |
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Jan-29-09
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| Ulhumbrus: On 11 Nc4 Ng4 12 Bxg4 Bxg4 13 Qxg4 Qxc4 14 Bd2 seems adequate. |
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Jan-29-09
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| Eyal: <On 11 Nc4 Ng4 12 Bxg4 Bxg4 13 Qxg4 Qxc4 14 Bd2 seems adequate.> "Adequate" not to lose immediately, but after 14...b5, for example, Black has the initiative; it's a complete failure of White's opening strategy to reach such a position after 14 moves. Not that the position reached in the actual game was so great either (though it was definitely better, before the blunder on move 13) - which means that Fischer didn't handle the opening so well even earlier. |
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Jan-30-09
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| Ulhumbrus: On 11 Nc4 Ng4 12 Bxg4 Bxg4 13 Qxg4 Qxc4 14 Bd2 White might like a more threatening position, but I am not sure whether Black does stand all that well. His Queen occupies the post which he would really like his Knight to occupy, the Knight hasn't come into contact with c4 yet, and neither Rook has come to c8 yet. On 15 Rad1 White's pieces are actually slightly ahead in development of Black's pieces. On 14... b5 15 Rad1 ( ignoring the threat of ...b4) 15... b4 16 Nd5 (threatening 17 Nb6) 16...Qxc2 17 f5 begins an attack. It may warrant looking at further. |
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Jan-30-09
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| Eyal: I really don't see why c4 is the only good square for the black knight, Black's queen and minor pieces seem very well placed where they are and the rooks are ready to join the action; engine evaluation in this line after 14...b5, btw, is close to +1 for Black. The specific line [11 Nc4 Ng4 12 Bxg4 Bxg4 13 Qxg4 Qxc4 14 Bd2 b5] 15 Rad1 b4 16 Nd5 is just plain horrible for White after 16...Qxe4. |
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Jan-30-09
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| Ulhumbrus: After 11 Nc4 Ng4 12 Bxg4 Bxg4 13 Qxg4 Qxc4 14 Bd2 b5, 15 f5 b4 16 Nd5 may be more exact than 15 Rad1 b4 16 Nd5 assuming that White cannot afford to give up the e pawn. For that matter, 14 f5 may save a tempo for Bg5. |
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| Feb-25-09 |
| M.D. Wilson: Korchnoi's style is hard to nail down, but which historical player does he have most in common with stylistically. I think, that at his best, Korchnoi had all the elements of Lasker, coupled with a killer instinct; in a sense, though, Korchnoi has always played by his own rules. |
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| Feb-26-09 |
| bunbun: I was looking back at the spanish translations and there was some confusion. please note that if you wanted to say 'surprises give us life' you'd have to say 'sorpresas nos DAN la vida'. |
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Mar-15-09
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| Some call me Tim: Fischer once said he feared Korchnoi more than any other opponent in the 1971 Candidates' because he couldn't understand his moves. Here it is strange he did not see the threat of Korchnoi's buildup on the b-file but it is characteristic of his poor play in the first third of this tournament. An exchange and two pawns down by move 17. Disaster. |
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| May-13-09 |
| FlashinthePan: First, I didn't understand Fischer's 33.Rg3, apparently giving the exchange. Then I saw the trap of 33...Bxg3 34.Nd4 Q moves (e.g. to b2) 35.Qf6+ with perpetual check.
Ultimately, this ill-inspired trap will have allowed Kortchnoi's brilliancy of 33...Qxg3, precipitating White's end. |
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| May-13-09 |
| AnalyzeThis: Well, the alternative move at 33 was to plain old resign. Once you think that way, a little cheapo at the end doesn't hurt anything. |
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| May-13-09 |
| FlashinthePan: That's right, but my point was that Fischer may well have overlooked 33...Qxg3. Otherwise, given his legendary ego, chances are he wouldn't have given Kortchnoi the opportunity of this dazzling coup de grace. |
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| May-13-09 |
| AnalyzeThis: I don't agree with that last point, but Fischer certainly get his butt kicked in this game. |
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Jul-13-09
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| Ulhumbrus: Instead of 11 Nd2, according to Korchnoi "He should have played 11 Nc4! It is true that with 11...Ng4 Black could have forced White to sacrifice the exchange ( 12 Bxg4 Bxg4 looks bad for him) but for fine compensation; 12 Nd5 Nf2+ 13 Rxf2 Qxf2 13 Be3 Qh4 15 Ncb6 Rb8 16 Nxc8 Rfxc8 17 g3 Qh6 18 f5 g5 19 Qd2 Bf6 20 h4, or 19...Bxb2 20 Bxg5 Qg7 21 Rf1- Black has a difficult position. Instead of the Knight thrust to g4 there was also 11...Bg4. After 12 Be3 Qh5 13 Bxg4 Nxg4 14 h3 Nxe3 ( 14...Bxc3?! 15 bxc3 Nf6) 15 Qxh5 gxh5 16 Nxe3 White's position is slightly better." (Korchnoi) |
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Jul-13-09
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| Open Defence: if they played a match for the WC it would have been something!! |
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Sep-18-09
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| Ulhumbrus: <Open Defence: if they played a match for the WC it would have been something!!> That is one match which it was a pity did not take place. A few other historical examples of other matches it would have been interesting to see the result of are Morphy- Staunton, Morphy- Steinitz ( Morphy was only a year older than Steinitz), Lasker- Pillsbury, Lasker- Nimzovich, Capablanca- Rubinstein, Alekhine- Capablanca ( return match), Alekhine - Lasker, Alekhine- Botvinnik, Alekhine- Fine, Alekhine - Reshevsky, Botvinnik- Fine, Botvinnik- Reshevsky, Tal- Fischer, Spassky- Petrosian ( return match), Fischer- Karpov and Kasparov- Fischer. |
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| Sep-18-09 |
| DrCurmudgeon: A Fischer - Korchnoi match probably would have ended up like the Fischer - Reshevsky match. |
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| Sep-18-09 |
| apple pi: <Ulhumbrus> Alekhine-Flohr and Kasparov-Tal would also be nice, if perhaps one-sided. |
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| Nov-09-09 |
| remolino: 13.g4 was an oversight by Fisher. Wonderful tactical alertness by Korchnoi. This is 1962. |
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