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|Jul-15-09|| ||YoungEd: It would have robbed the game of much of its excitement, but I wonder if Black shouldn't have accepted the offer to exchange queens on move 21.|
|Jul-15-09|| ||backrank: This game is deeply analyzed in Vukovic' classic 'The Art of Attack' as an example how a king hunt should NOT be performed ;)|
|Jul-15-09|| ||Wuster: Interesting that in this game, fully 1/3 of white's moves were King moves.|
|Jul-15-09|| ||kevin86: Caro canned?|
|Jul-15-09|| ||Honza Cervenka: Chigorin was playing this quite recklessly for win. It is clearly visible from the fact that in the 12th move he avoided relatively safe 12.gxf3 with mutually forced draw after 12...Qe1+ 13.Kf4 Qh4+ 14.Ke3 etc. and played bold but objectively worse 12.Bb5+ instead. He was quite lucky after that as Caro missed a few opportunities to get exposed white King into unsolvable troubles in the course of game and in the end he succumbed to a pretty tactical shot. But do not be too hard on poor Horatio. The position was very complex and chaotic and to find correct continuation over the board in limited time was not easy task for any human. Despite of its mistakes it was great game.|
|Jul-15-09|| ||YetAnotherAmateur: My first moment of surprise going through this one had to be 7. Ke2. It was very much telegraphing the absolutely nutty play by Chigorin, with a clear choice to make the king a fighting piece right from the get-go.|
The really astounding thing, from my perspective, is that Chigorin had to figure out in advance (or get lucky enough) from move 24 that the king could make it to safety by moving to e4, instead of the more obvious d2. In other words, an 8-move calculation with a very mobile opposing queen and knight floating around.
|Jul-15-09|| ||lzromeu: Unusual game. Both players avoiding "best moves", against theoretical bases. Caro blind strong moves to moves in ineficient atack and lose. (Win the less worst, if I can say this)|
|Jul-15-09|| ||WhiteRook48: why didn't he play 1...c6?|
|Jul-15-09|| ||Dr. Funkenstein: clearly Caro had concluded after this game that e5 was an insufficient defense to white's 1. e4! e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. f4!|
and so 1. e4! must instead be met by c6! which allows f4 to be met by d5!
|Jul-15-09|| ||Peligroso Patzer: <WhiteRook48: *** Steinitz would have been proud of this king.>|
Here is a link to the most famous Steinitzian king walk: Steinitz vs Paulsen, 1870.
|Jul-15-09|| ||goodevans: <Wuster: Interesting that in this game, fully 1/3 of white's moves were King moves.> I was about to make that same observation myself, which wouldn't be unusual for a game of 108 moves, but this is only 1/3 that length.|
What I love about these old games is that their cavalier style is matched equally by a resourcefulness in defence.
|Jul-15-09|| ||MarvinTsai: <lzromeu: Both players avoiding "best moves", against theoretical bases.> To see from a different perspective, I think it's the incompleteness of thery that makes players dare to pursue this kind of chess. By some chances your opponent would make subtle mistakes that let you get the upper hand, and those mistakes can hardly be recognized in your time. It's like playing rapid or blitz with the knowledge that you are a faster thinker than your opponent, and then just going for a brutal fight! The defense will somehow collapse.|
|Sep-23-11|| ||Meister326: This game is amazing! White's King floats in the middle of the board and he wins anyway. I don't know how he did it.|
|May-07-12|| ||andyatchess: Caro-can't|
|Feb-24-14|| ||FSR: ♫♪♫ He's a maniac, maniac, on the board. His king's dancing like it's never danced before. ♫♪♫|
|Jul-07-14|| ||perfidious: Whatever Chigorin's motivation in going in for the hazardous 12.Bb5+ and avoiding the stock drawing line 12.gxf3 Qe1+ 13.Kf4 Qh4+ as played in S Makarichev vs Razuvaev, 1979 amongst other games, a stirring fight ensued.|
|May-31-16|| ||The Kings Domain: Strange game that's just all over the place.|
|Apr-10-17|| ||Straclonoor: In all books 19th white move marked as strong ("!") but it was very bad move. Caro doesn't used it.
Best is 19....h5 with advantage
Analysis by Stockfish 090417 64 POPCNT:
1. (-1.00): 19...h5 20.Rcd1 a6 21.Qe4 Qe6 22.Qd5 Rc8 23.Qxe6+ fxe6 24.Ke4 Na5 25.Rd6 Rc4+ 26.Rd4 Rxd4+ 27.cxd4 Nc4 28.Bd6 Kf7 29.d5 Rc8 30.Rd1 Nxd6+ 31.exd6 exd5+ 32.Rxd5 Ke6 33.Rxh5 Rc4+ 34.Ke3 Rc3+ 35.Ke4 Kxd6 36.Rg5 Rc2 37.Rg6+ Kc5 38.a3
|Mar-01-18|| ||tgyuid: the question is fair; all not horatio may speculate|
|Mar-01-18|| ||tgyuid: the question is irelevant; black played something else|
|May-19-18|| ||Vitez: This game is on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z17...|
|Aug-26-18|| ||balboa07: This game is on YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z17...|
|Dec-03-18|| ||ChessHigherCat: Caro got conned. I must be crazy like Chigorin because I scored twice par on Guess-the-Move.|
|Dec-03-18|| ||Count Wedgemore: <CHC: Caro got conned.>|
You mean he got Kanned?
|Dec-03-18|| ||ChessHigherCat: That has a different kannotation|
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