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| Jul-05-06 | | mahmoudkubba: I can see that Khan have other related opening(s) to it but very few have Caro related even though many do plays it (Caro) but no mentioning is done usually to such that fact. Yet as far as I knows their are games with only Caro and only Khan that is Caro without Khan or any related way and Khan without Caro or any related way. |
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| Jul-05-06 | | EmperorAtahualpa: <Yet as far as I knows their are games with only Caro and only Khan that is Caro without Khan or any related way and Khan without Caro or any related way.> <mahmoudkubba> Caro without Kann? Kann without Caro? So you mean a "Caro-defense" and a "Kann-defense", right? I've never heard of them. Can you please explain further? Thanks. |
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| Jul-05-06 | | mahmoudkubba: <EmperorAtahualpa>: One short way of explaining this in this quick forum is that every thing proved to be a Khan is started with the black playing c7-c6, right? well thats just one thing of the whole matter. But when applying this to a real blitz it is as far as I knows might have more than one meaning yet two players might have the same moves similar to anothe two players. Thats just the starting point. I can't say more but only said this to u and to others for the goodness, truth, validity and justified world(s) really. |
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Jul-06-06
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: <al wazir>, are you responsible for some of the Game of the Day puns? If not, why not? |
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Jul-06-06
 | | al wazir: <An Englishman>: I believe that this site is for chess, and to pursue any other topic is a transgression, not to say an abomination. That said, I admit to having transgressed a few times. But as far as I could tell, nobody took any notice. |
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Jul-05-07
 | | WannaBe: Interesting...
The earliest game in the DB with C-K opening is W Paulsen vs Max Weiss, 1883 and I see that Caro himself have 2 games in DB with C-K as opening (Caro playing black) There is one player and one game in DB with Marcus Kann I'm gonna guess he is the Kann in the C-K opening? The year of the game looks close enough, but Marcus Kann doesn't have any bio... |
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| Jul-05-07 | | nescio: <WannaBe: The earliest game in the DB with C-K opening is W Paulsen vs Max Weiss, 1883 and I see that Caro himself have 2 games in DB with C-K as opening (Caro playing black)> In those days 1...c6 was considered a little eccentric at best. As far as I know Caro's article in "Brüderschaft" dates from 1886 and I think Marcus Kann was co-author. <There is one player and one game in DB with Marcus Kann I'm gonna guess he is the Kann in the C-K opening? The year of the game looks close enough, but Marcus Kann doesn't have any bio...> Caro was a strong player, but very little is known about Kann. The game you refer to seems to be the only one that has survived. |
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Apr-22-09
 | | stoy: The Caro-Kann defense helped Mikhail Botvinnik regain the title of world champion in 1958 against Smyslov and again in 1961 against Tal. Capablanca also liked it as did Petrosian & Karpov. |
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Jul-05-09
 | | wordfunph: Master Horatio Caro will not be complete without his partner Kann....Caro-Kann! Happy Birthday Master Caro.. |
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Jul-05-09
| | An Englishman: Good Evening: Hello, Mr. Caro, from an Englishman who's most grateful for your co-discovery! |
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Jul-05-09
 | | whiteshark: <WannaBe: <...but Marcus Kann doesn't have any bio...>> Check it out again. :D |
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Jul-05-09
| | whiteshark: Player of the Day
Bio: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horati...
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horati... |
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| Jul-05-09 | | WhiteRook48: inventor of the Caro-Kann |
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Jul-05-09
| | whiteshark: About 48% right. |
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| Jul-05-10 | | newzild: This character invented the Caro-Kann, but doesn't appear to have actually played it... |
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| Jul-05-10 | | vonKrolock: Not here in this base !? Well, sooner or later some of such games should be uploaded [Event "?"]
[Site "Berlin"]
[Date "1905.??.??"]
[White "Lewitt,Moritz "]
[Black "Caro,Horatio "]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B15"]
[Round "?"]
1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Nf6 5. Ng3 Bg4 6. Be2 Bxe2 7. N1xe2 e6
8. Bg5 Nbd7 9. Qd2 Qb6 10. O-O-O O-O-O 11. Rhe1 h6 12. Bf4 g5 13. Be3 Nd5 14. f4 Qa6
15. Kb1 N7b6 16. Qd3 Nc4 17. Bc1 Nb4 18. Qb3 Na5 19. Qc3 Nc4 20. a3 Nd5 21. Qb3 gxf4
22. Nxf4 Nxf4 23. Bxf4 Rd5 24. Bc1 Nxa3+ 0-1
[Event "?"]
[Site "Barmen"]
[Date "1905.??.??"]
[White "Kopa,I "]
[Black "Caro,Horatio "]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B18"]
[Round "?"]
1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Bf5 5. Ng3 Bg6 6. Nf3 e6 7. c3 Bd6
8. Bd3 Nf6 9. O-O Nbd7 10. Re1 Qc7 11. a4 O-O 12. Bxg6 hxg6 13. Qd2 e5 14. dxe5 Nxe5
15. Nxe5 Bxe5 16. Qc2 Rfe8 17. Bd2 Qd7 18. Re2 Bxg3 19. Rxe8+ Rxe8 20. hxg3 Re2 21. Rd1 Ng4
22. Be1 Qe6 23. Qc1 f5 24. Qb1 Kh7 25. b3 b5 26. a5 a6 27. Kf1 Nh2+ 28. Kg1 Ng4
29. Kf1 Nh2+ 30. Kg1 Ng4 31. Kf1 Nh2+ 32. Kg1 Ng4 1/2-1/2 [Event "?"]
[Site "Vienna"]
[Date "1898.??.??"]
[White "Pillsbury,Harry "]
[Black "Caro,Horatio "]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B15"]
[Round "1"]
1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Nf6 5. Nxf6+ exf6 6. Nf3 Bd6 7. Bd3 Bg4
8. h3 Bh5 9. g4 Bg6 10. Nh4 Nd7 11. Nf5 Bxf5 12. Bxf5 g6 13. Qe2+ Qe7 14. Bxd7+ Kxd7
15. Be3 Rae8 16. d5 c5 17. Qb5+ Kc8 18. O-O-O Qc7 19. Rd3 Re4 20. Rc3 a6 21. Qd3 Rhe8
22. Bxc5 Kd7 23. Be3 Qa5 24. a3 b5 25. Rc6 Bf4 26. Kb1 Bxe3 27. fxe3 Rxe3 28. Qd4 Re1+
29. Ka2 Rxh1 30. Qa7+ 1-0 |
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| Sep-23-11 | | zydeco: Born in Hull, started playing seriously after moving to Berlin. Looks like he actually tied a match with Mieses, c. 1898 (acc to American Chess Magazine, Vol 1) |
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| Jul-05-12 | | MountainMatt: Happy b-day Mr. Caro, the (half) namesake of my favorite 1. e4 defense. Highly useful at the prestigious Class D level, where it is hardly ever seen. |
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| Jul-05-12 | | BIDMONFA: Horatio Caro CARO, Horatio
http://www.bidmonfa.com/caro_horati...
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| Jul-05-12 | | LoveThatJoker: Horatio Caro, today you are remembered!
LTJ |
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| Jul-05-12 | | Alphonse1973: <But why doesn't the database have any games played by Kann?> As <al wazir> said, <Here is a game in which Kann plays the Caro-Kann defense.>, which is Mieses vs M Kann, 1885
Interestingly, there is no Horatio Caro vs Marcus Kann games, or Marcus Kann vs Horatio Caro, because Marcus Kann died on february 3 1886, when Caro wasn't still twenty-four years old (in fact, he was twenty-three). The Caro-Kann defense was analized in Caro's journal, Bruederschaft, in 1886. The first games of Horatio Caro appearing in www.chessgames.com are from 1888. Interesting data! |
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Jul-05-12
 | | waustad: I was trying to work a Hamlet quote in, but Horatio is the recpient of the "Alas poor ..." line, not a participant so I didn't see how to make it work. |
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Jul-05-12
 | | Benzol: <waustad> <I was trying to work a Hamlet quote in, but Horatio is the recpient of the "Alas poor ..." line, not a participant so I didn't see how to make it work.> <waustad> There is the one about "...more things in heaven and earth Horatio". Could you make one out of that? |
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| Aug-18-12 | | Karpova: Horatio Caro won the Berlin Championship in 1904 ahead of a strong field: 1. Caro 15.0
2-3. O. S. Bernstein 14.5
2-3. Spielmann 14.5
4. W. Cohn 14.0
5. Blumenfeld 12.5
6. Kagan 11.0
7-8. A. Wagner 10.0
7.8. Januschpolski 10.0
9. Gregory 9.5
10. Bauer 9.0
11-12. E. Cohn 8.5
11-12. M. Lange 8.5
13-15. Hoffmann 6.0
13-15. Dr. Brück 6.0
13-15. Kunze 6.0
16. Thomas 5.0
17. Feuss 4.5
18. Pauli 4.0
19. E. Heilmann 2.5 (out of 10 games)
This game H Caro vs Otto Kunze, 1904 won the prize for the most beautiful game (queen sacrifice included). Source: Pages 212-213 of the 1904 'Wiener Schachzeitung' Also note the good showing by Bernhard Kagan! |
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| Aug-19-12 | | Karpova: In 1905 the Berlin Championship was decided by a match between Caro and Dr. Lewitt. Time control was 1 hour for 15 moves but the time consumed would only be measured at the end of the game and overstepping the time limit did not lead to the loss of the game but cost 1 Mark per 5 minutes (page 259). The match was terminated with a final standing of +4 =6 -4 and counted as a draw (page 325). Source: 1905 'Wiener Schachzeitung' |
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