| Oct-25-02 | | drukenknight: drunks strange brew of the day: Looks like 18 Bf6 might have been better. |
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| Oct-27-02 | | pawntificator: How does black win? |
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Nov-01-02
 | | AgentRgent: I suspect that after the rook moves Nxd5 Bxd5 Kxd5 then the king can help the two pawns down the board. I'm sure I could blow a Rook+5 pawns vs Rook+3 pawns endgame, but Fischer wouldn't. |
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| Nov-01-02 | | Tien: What if white answered RxD6 |
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| Nov-02-02 | | pawntificator: That's what I couldn't figure out, if Rxd6 then the knight can't take d5 but I see it now. 35. Rxd6 Ke5 and the rook is lost. |
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| Oct-17-03 | | mrvertigo: if 18 Bf6 ...Nd7, and it seems white will either have to exchange and give black a nice outpost with his knight, or lose a tempo after black moves his queen |
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| Oct-17-03 | | drukenknight: mr.v: I think you are right, the chessbase computer suggests 18 Bf4 with a similar idea in mind. what was wrong w/ 13 hxg4?
Also white moved the wrong R on move 17, he just blocks in the other R. |
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| Oct-17-03 | | mrvertigo: if 13 hxg4 ..nxc3 and wins a pawn and creates a passed one for himself. you're right, the R move on 17 ended up badly, I can only assume Uhlmann was afraid of bxb2 and he'd have to move his rook with little to show for it! |
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| Oct-17-03 | | sangfroid: <what was wrong w/ 13 hxg4?> 13. hxg4 Bxc3 14. bxc3 Nxc3 15. Qd3 Nxe2+ 16. Kh1 Nxf4 |
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| Oct-18-03 | | drukenknight: OH please Sangfroid, he's never going to be dumb enuf to simply allow a fork. in your line, 14 Qb3 would come first followed by Bd3 |
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| Oct-18-03 | | Brian Watson: mrv: 13.hxg4 Nxc3 doesn't win a pawn, it sacs a piece for two pawns. I'm not sure it's worth it -- it looks like it would be difficult for black to push his queenside pawns, and also difficult to develop his queen knight. druken: interesting suggestion, i'm having difficulty calculating it out: (i) 13.hxg4 Bxc3 14.Qb3 Nd2 15.Qxb7 (15.Nxd2 Bxd2 16.Bxd2 Rxe2) ..Nd7 (forced?) 16.bxc3 Nxf1 17.Bxf1, white comes out ahead. (ii) or a simpler idea, 13.hxg4 Bxc3 14.Qb3 Bb4 15.Bd3,
where black retains the pawn, but i think the knight will be forced to retreat to f6 (where it can be pinned) and white has compensation due to the disorder of black's pieces. |
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| Oct-18-03 | | drukenknight: Yes it is very interesting isn't it? It seems that Fischer left Uhlmann with a very tricky position and Uhlmann chose to take what appears to be the safe way but really amounts to slow death. The whole game is haunted by this move. But no one really wants to mention it, do they? (I will check the Wade/OCOnnel book to see) "You must play on the edge of the abyss." Petrosian (Suetin, I think is the soure for this quote). See these guys dont really see 20 moves deep they just create tricky problem for the opponent. It is perhaps unfair to criticize Uhlmann, I'm sure I could not stay 10 moves with him over the board, but you have to really look at situations like these in order to see how these guys turn minor problems into victory. I think the average person would just assume Uhlman has to play whatever the heck it was, and that's the end of it. So when the game is over, it's like magic, Abracadabra...Poof! Victory. Brian: may I suggest you choose one of the many tricky lines for black, w/o benefit of computer, and I will try to respond as white, just over the board, and see where it leads us? I'm watching the Yankee game but I can check back. Dont worry, I will probably leave a piece en prise or something, but you might find it interesting. |
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| Oct-19-03 | | Brian Watson: Sorry, I don't have a computer at home -- I log in at work on breaks, or sometimes go to the internet cafe. Also I don't own a board at the moment. So it's not practical . . . |
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| Oct-19-03 | | drukenknight: you could do it one move a day or whatever. hmm maybe I'll look at it again later... |
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| Apr-01-07 | | Skylark: Update of the analysis of 13. hxg4:
13. ... Bxc3! 14. Qb3! Bb4! 15. Bd3 Nd7 16. g5 (16. Bxe4 Rxe4 17. Bxd6 Nb6  or 16. Rfc1 Ndf6 17. g5 Ng4 18. Bxe4 Rxe4 19. Rc4 Rxc4 20. Qxc4 Qd7 ) 16. ... f5 17. Nd4!? cxd4! 18. Qxb4 Ndc5 19. Rad1 Nxg5 etc. I found this line interesting. Nxe4 was a nice swift way to destroy white's center and win material, and h3? was a pretty bad oversight. Only made possible by the bishop on f4 though ^_^ |
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Jan-03-08
 | | Eyal: <Skylark: Update of the analysis of 13. hxg4: 13. ... Bxc3! 14. Qb3! Bb4! 15. Bd3 Nd7 16. g5 (16. Bxe4 Rxe4 17. Bxd6 Nb6 or 16. Rfc1 Ndf6 17. g5 Ng4 18. Bxe4 Rxe4 19. Rc4 Rxc4 20. Qxc4 Qd7 ) 16. ... f5 17. Nd4!? cxd4! 18. Qxb4 Ndc5 19. Rad1 Nxg5 etc.> 15...Qf6! - as already played in B Vladimirov vs M Yudovich Sr., 1954 - is probably better for Black in this line, which might suggest an immediate 15.g5 instead of Bd3. In any case, 12.h3? is clearly a mistake (theory recommends here 12.Nd2 or Qc2, defending e4) - and might actually qualify as an opening trap. |
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Jan-03-08
| | Eyal: ...falling into an opening trap, that is. |
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Feb-19-08
 | | notyetagm: <sangfroid: <what was wrong w/ 13 hxg4?>
13. hxg4 Bxc3 14. bxc3 Nxc3 15. Qd3 Nxe2+ 16. Kh1 Nxf4>
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click for larger viewBlack wins a piece -and- two pawns in this line.
Notice how Black <RELOADED> on c3 with the Black e4-knight (13 ...  g7x c3, 14 ... e4xc3) because the knight becomes <RABID> (15 ... c3xe2+, 16 ... e2xf4) which the bishop cannot. |
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Feb-19-08
| | notyetagm: <Skylark: ... and h3? was a pretty bad oversight. Only made possible by the bishop on f4 though ^_^>
click for larger viewYep, the <UNDEFENDED> White f4-bishop is what makes the entire combination beginning with 12 ... f6xe4! possible. As Chernev/Reinfeld would say, <"LOOSE PIECES (White f4-bishop) ARE THE BASIS OF COMBINATIONS">. As such, the <UNDEFENDED> White f4-bishop goes into my Game Collection: Loose pieces are the basis of combinations. |
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| Apr-05-09 | | WeakSquare: Another top GM goes down without a fight against Fischer. Typical of Palma Interzonal and later events. |
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| Feb-10-10 | | Capabobby: In the final position, if 35. Rxd6??, Fischer would have simply played 35...Ke5! winning the exchange. I guess black resinged because he cannot take on d6 nor defend successfuly his own pawn at d5. |
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Feb-10-10
 | | HeMateMe: Uhlmann beat BF with that pesky french winawar, when fischer was 17. |
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