| Jan-11-05 | | aragorn69: Korchnoi speaks about this decisive win in the 1971 candidates match against Geller in the following interview http://www.faz.net/s/Rub501F42F1AA0... <Nennen Sie ein psychologisches Kunststück aus Ihrer Karriere. Da gibt es viele, wie zum Beispiel beim WM-Kandidatenmatch 1971 gegen Jefim Geller. Dort hatten wir eine Hängepartie mit kleinen Vorteilen für mich. Bei der häuslichen Analyse konnte ich jedoch keinen Weg finden, seine Stellung zu durchbrechen. Mein Trainer Osnos hat mir damals ein Figurenopfer vorgeschlagen. Ich habe für die Analyse eine Extra-Auszeit genommen und diese Stellung drei Tage lang analysiert. Wie ging die Sache aus?
Nach einer halben Woche saßen wir wieder am Brett, um die Hängepartie zu Ende zu spielen. Ich habe die Figur tatsächlich geopfert. Das war mit Risiko verbunden. Aber Geller hatte diesen Zug nicht analysiert und ohne Widerstand die gute Stellung verloren. Das war die entscheidende Partie des Wettkampfs. Danach gewann ich noch ein Spiel, und das Match war gelaufen. > For those who don't understand German, a free translation : The game was adjourned. During the analysis, he couldn't find a win until his trainer Osnos suggested a risky piece sacrifice (42.Ne6+ !?!). They took one more time-out (how ?) to see through it and worked on the consequences for three days. Finally, he decided to risk it. Surprised, Geller lost without resistance, although he had a good position. Kortchnoi won another game later and that clinched it for him. |
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| Jan-11-05 | | aragorn69: I guess 42.Ne6 could use some deep analysis by some of our best kibbitzers too !! In fact, I don't see any better defense for Black... |
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| Jan-11-05 | | drukenknight: aragorn: when he says "they took one more time out" he probably means that they requested a postponement. in those days, this was usually a medical postponement and you needed a note from your doctor. What he doesnt say is whether such a postponement was proper under the rules as they existed. At this pt. in time Korch. was so fed up with Russia that he probably didnt worry about it. I dont think they would give you a postponement if you said "hey we think we've got a winning continuation please give us a couple of more days to find it." Medical postponements were being abused in those days anyways, so was this tactic was unsporting or simply a pragmatic approach?? |
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| Jan-11-05 | | aragorn69: Thx for your comments <drunkenknight>. It was exactly along those lines that I was wondering how he got his second time-out. I seem to remember that in the '80s they slowly introduced the idea of the limited number of time-outs : each player could decide not to play a certain number of times without having to justify it (and hence having to lie about his health if he wanted a pause in the match for strategical reasons). |
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| Jan-11-05 | | aragorn69: <drunkenknight> You are (or at least used to be), if I remember correctly, a champion of the "impossible" defense. Any suggestion for poor Geller ? ;-)) |
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| Jan-11-05 | | drukenknight: Yes aragorn I do. And thanx for your comments, if I am remembered for that one thing, I would be happy. As for Geller, as you look at the moves of the adjourment it seems clear that Korch. is playing w/ a clear plan and Geller is uncomfortable and not playing as well. For one thing 49...Ng4 looks somewhat better.
But look at move 53; this is tantamount to resignation, clearly Geller is already beaten psychologically. What if 53...Kg8? is there a win? |
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| Jan-11-05 | | aragorn69: <dk>
49.-Ng4 50.Qh4 looks like a simple win.
However, 53.-Kg8 seems more resistent. Although, after something like 54.Bf1, White seems all set to march the a- (and if necessary b-) pawn, the Black queen being tied up by the Bc4 threat and the bishop needing a lot of time to find activity. 53.-Ke8 was hopeless, but it tried to bring the king to the queen-side so that the White pawns would not have such an easy ride... |
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| Jan-11-05 | | drukenknight: blacks B seems to do quite well at holding the passed pawns in the lines that I tried. I should have saved what came out of the crap pc, but I could find nothing that was winning. |
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Nov-01-14
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<drukenknight; aragorn69:> According to Korchoi, it was Geller who requested the second time out: "I attached great importance to the resumption of this game, and therefore the following day, for the first time in the history of matches for the World Championship, I asked for a postponement on the adjournment day! I prepared to play the eighth game the day after this, but now it was Geller who asked for a postponement." -<Victor Korchnoi, "Chess is My Life" (Edition Olms 2004), p.76> |
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Nov-01-14
 | | perfidious: <drukenknight....(In 1971), Korch. was so fed up with Russia....> So far as I know, any disaffection with the system on Korchnoi's part only came in the next cycle. |
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Nov-01-14
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On 44...Ne8-f6
click for larger viewOuch! Geller didn't need to return the material here. I believe he was likely already under intense time pressure, having had a long think after the surprise piece sac line. |
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Nov-02-14
| | perfidious: <WCC> You may recall a quote of Korchnoi regarding his opponent in this game, which went something to the effect that Geller was a fine attacker, but tended to waste a lot of clock time, as he calculated variations badly, or some such thing. |
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Nov-02-14
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<perfidious> Your memory continues to astonish. As usual you have it virtually verbatim. Eerie, I call it. Korchnoi says that about Geller in his commentary on game 2 of this match: Geller vs Korchnoi, 1971
"I decided to try the Dragon Variation... Geller is quite a good attacker, but he calculates variations badly- he wastes a lot of time, and often does not believe in himself. Therefore the risk seemed justified to me." -<Victor Korchnoi, "Chess is My Life" (Edition Olms 2004), p.75> |
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Nov-02-14
| | perfidious: <WCC> While I have never seen the Olms Edition of Chess is My Life--only the much earlier one, many years before-my recollection is based on the citation from the Wade/Korchnoi collection of games published in 1978, which ends at 'wastes a lot of time'. |
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Nov-17-15
 | | offramp: <perfidious: <WCC> You may recall a quote of Korchnoi regarding his opponent in this game, which went something to the effect that Geller was a fine attacker, but tended to waste a lot of clock time, as he calculated variations badly, or some such thing.> Kortschnoi did say that and I am certain that he is correct. But I wonder by what alchemy he could peer inside Geller's head and see those poorly calculated variations whizzing round and round. Or did Geller one day slap Kortschnoi square on the back and yell, "Gotta tell ya Vik, I'm @#$%ing piss-poor at variations! You never heard that, OK!!??" |
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Nov-17-15
| | offramp: It's also possible, of course, that Geller calculated out loud, like: "If I go here Kortschnoi will go there then I'll go .... no wait! If I go here Kortschnoi will go there then ... wait - I've messed that up! Wait! How do knights go again?" And poor Kortschnoi, eyes shut, murmurs, "Like an L". |
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Nov-17-15
| | offramp: There is a very good creeping move in this game. Like all creeping moves it is made by a queen.
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White to move. 49.?
Black wants to play 49...Ng4. The killer move, very hard to spot, is 49.Qg5! Now if 49...Ng4 then 50.Qh4 forces off the queens, then white takes the pawn on a6 with an easy win. |
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Kibitzing
sac: 42.Ne6+