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|Aug-24-16|| ||lentil: I think the winning move will be Nd6 with threat of mate or winning liquidation on e8.|
|Aug-24-16|| ||HeMateMe: I think you're right. f6 might let black's king slip away on f8.|
|Aug-24-16|| ||mckmac: The final position looks like a work of art to me. A tribute to both players.|
|Feb-28-17|| ||Saniyat24: A Rook and a Knight(fractionally less than +9 of the Queen) taming the Queen....Nigel Short has lost some of the most fantastic games...it takes two to make a great game...! Brilliant play by Ivanchuk and Nigel Short both....!!|
|Feb-28-17|| ||Dionysius1: Lovely how Chucky protects his King to make it an attacking piece|
|Apr-23-17|| ||paavoh: Now somebody with a good head with puns, please, this game NEEDS to be GOTD!|
|Aug-07-17|| ||offramp: <paavoh: Now somebody with a good head with puns, please, this game NEEDS to be GOTD!>|
Part of your wish came true.
Poor Nigel Short. I think every phrase, proverb, adage, aphorism and cliché in English that includes the word SHORT has been used to title his games.
His name is also used in London as rhyming slang.
Cockney people say,
<"Flippin' 'eck. It ain't half hot out there today, guvnor! I won't wear me full-lenf trahsers, I'll stroll abaht in me Nigels, won't I?">
Nigels are also known as Vlastimils, after Vlastimil Hort.
|Aug-07-17|| ||offramp: It is worth looking at Oll vs Barsov, 1986, especially this comment at that game: |
Oll vs Barsov, 1986 (kibitz #2)
<MUG:...White's Rook, knight, king and pawns advanced forward together as one, like some strange, lumbering, all-powerful mega-piece!>.
...And the brilliant picture posted by User: Sneaky which would be just as good for the end of this game:
|Aug-07-17|| ||ChessHigherCat: Is that, Sur, really true?|
|Aug-07-17|| ||uniqueid: I don't get why White didn't play 28.Qxf4 with mating threats on the weak f2 pawn. If 29.Re2, Qf3 30.Rd2 and white has gotten the f4 pawn and can now march the h pawn as intended.|
I maybe missing something obvious.
|Aug-07-17|| ||ajile: Very good coordination of minors and pawns to win this endgame.|
|Aug-07-17|| ||paavoh: <@offramp>: Well, at least this magnificent game got exposure it deserved.|
In hindsight, how about "A Desperate Housewife" re: Black Q trying to control things to no avail?!
|Aug-07-17|| ||RookFile: Maybe an error somewhere in the scoresheet. I'm tired but don't see what's wrong with 28....Qxf4.|
|Aug-07-17|| ||Nerwal: Maybe Black concluded 28... ♕xf4 was drawish (which it is) and therefore chose to play h5 first either to confuse matters or to pick the d5 pawn first.|
|Aug-07-17|| ||offramp: |
click for larger view
Black could have played 28...Qxf4, but 28...h5 looks just as good. There is a threat of both ...Rxf4 and ...Qg4+. I don't think there is much in it.
|Aug-07-17|| ||Modulo: Black could probably draw easily with 28. ... Rxf4; after 29. Rc8+ Kf7 30. Rc7+ Kf8 White doesn't seem to have anything better than a perpetual check, 29. Re8+ Kf7 seems even worse for White. |
After 28. ... Qxf4, White still seems to have a slight advantage: 29. Re2 Qf3 30. Rd2! ane White's rook now supports the dangerous passed pawn on d5. A sample line: 30. ... Qg4+ (30. ... h5 31. Rc4! prevents further checks and seems to be almost decisive) 31. Ng3 Qg5 32. Rd4 Qc1+ 33. Kg2 Qxb2 34. Ne4 Qe2 35. h3 Qf3+ 36. Kh2 and it seems like White can avoid a perpetual while advancing his d-pawn.
The better continuation for Black after 28. ... Qxf4 29. Re2 seems to be 29. ... Qg5+; after 30. Ng3 h5 31. h4 Qxd5 32. Rce6 Qd1+ 33. Kh2 Rf4! it seems tough for White to make progress.
28. d5 seems to be a critical mistake. After 28. Ng3, for instance, it looks like White can maintain some advantage; for instance 28. ... h5 29. h4 Rxf4 30. Rc8+ Kh7 31. Re2 Rxh4 32. Rce8 Rf4 33. R8e3 Qg4 34. Kh2, and White consolidates his king's position while having three dangerpos pawns at his disposal.
|Aug-07-17|| ||yadasampati: <uniqueid> <I maybe missing something obvious> Well, one obvious thing is that you mix up black and white here. Not white but black has a queen, so probably you mean 28. ... Qxf4 in your suggestion. I would say that 29. Ne3 would be the proper answer for white, defending both f1 and g2, and also the pawn on d5 (that defends the e6 rook, that defends the knight ...)|
|Aug-07-17|| ||yadasampati: <Modulo> I think that the best answer to 28. ... Qxf4 is 29. Ne3 instead of Re2. Please see my previous comment.|
|Aug-07-17|| ||7he5haman: 34...Qc1+ 35.Ke2 Qxb2+ looks like a better try to me.|
|Aug-07-17|| ||Richard Taylor: A comedy of errors both sides made a lot of mistakes with Short making a few more and missing chances earlier to get the advantage and later to equalize...|
Such is chess but the King walk reminds one of Short's famous game against Timman.
|Aug-07-17|| ||EdZelli: offramp:Poor Nigel Short. I think every phrase, proverb, adage,...|
Nigel got the "Short" end of the stick here ;-)
|Aug-07-17|| ||kevin86: Short stopped. Pawns win at end.|
|Aug-07-17|| ||uniqueid: <yadasampati> thats right. Thank you for transposing my confusion to Black. 29. Ne3 is indeed a strong defense. 29...Qxf2+ 30.Kh1 Ra8 with Ra1 coming up unless white gives up one of the rooks. Still don't see why black had to snatch defeat from the jaws of draw (or win perhaps).|
|Aug-07-17|| ||GlennOliver: The wordplay could be re-used for a winning Nigel Short game, using "Fell" in one of its other meanings, "Deadly".|
|Aug-07-17|| ||RandomVisitor: Black might try 54...Kf8 instead and is holding. 54...Qd4+ loses.|
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