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David Janowski vs Emil Schallopp
Nuremberg (1896), Nuremberg GER, rd 9, Jul-29
Queen's Gambit Accepted: Gunsberg Defense (D21)  ·  1-0
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Oct-06-11  sevenseaman: <scormus> <CG seems to be concentrating on interference this week>

Do not lay too much store on <CG>'s patterns. If I remember correctly a Q wasn't sacrificed this Monday but Tuesday it was.

No matter what goes on, like gamblers we tend to take a punt on every vestige of a pattern and expect it to repeat the following day.

For all I know <CG> may a have different setter for each day of the week. I thought yesterday it was much tougher than today's lollipop.

Oct-06-11  sevenseaman: <Memethecat: <12Qxc6+ Kd8. 13Qc7+ Ke8. 14Bb5+ Qc6. 15Bxc6#> also works quite well!>

Something is seriously wrong here. Check and rectify.

Oct-06-11  dufferps: I can't help thinking that Janowski was not seeing the ultimate forced mate, but simply making the best move at that moment. And 12. Bd5! was certainly an excellent best move at that point, sacrificing the bishop but at least ensuring that white's queen could take the key c6 pawn (check) and follow up with Qxa8+. (If black moved 13....Ke7, Nxd5+ would force his king back to the 8th rank).

However, I cannot understand why, after 14.Qxa8+, Schallopp did not interpose 14 ... Bc8. I suppose it is because 15.Rd1 would be white's spoiler.

Oct-06-11  LIFE Master AJ: J Augustin vs A Lanc, 1975

<<Oct-06-11 paulalbert: <Life Master AJ> AJ, On yesterday's puzzle you posted a mate in 3 problem which seems to have disappeared, but I worked on it last night.>>

Hi Paul!

A.) The problem is still there, I just looked at it.

B.) Your solution was/is correct.

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"White to move and mate in three."

FROM: "1000 Checkmate Combinations." (By V. Khenkin.)

1.Kd7!!,
This one is brilliant ... and is also the ONLY way to win.

[ There are a few false tries:
. # 1.) 1.Qh5!? g6!;
. # 2.) 1.Ng5!? Qh5!;
. # 3.) 1.Ke6? Nc7+ ; etc. ]

1...Nc7;
Black cannot move his Queen... (much); or his King ... (at all.)

[ Black cannot escape: 1...Nf6+!?; 2.Nxf6+ Kf8; 3.Qe8#.

Or 1...Nd6; 2.Kxd6 Qxh7; 3.Qe8# , (similar to M.L.).

Or </= 1...Qxh7?!; 2.Qxe8#. ]

2.Kxc7! Qxh7;
I think that this is Black's ONLY legal move!!!

3.Qe8#. 1-0

Oct-06-11  jackalope: I think I see this one - seems easier than yesterday's puzzle.

White's back rank is in imminent danger and can't castle to either side. Black is also in serious trouble with White's well-coordinated pieces and easy access to the Black King. So...

12. Bd5 appears to be the key move - defends rook on h1 and attacks black queen. From this position, White should win easily.

Now, to see if I'm on the right track...

Oct-06-11  jackpawn: Somehow I found the solution almost immediately. Sometimes I'm a genius (just joking!), sometimes I'm a fish. Really, why does the mind work better some days than others?
Oct-06-11
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  kevin86: I answered the opening move instantly,I have seen the theme-I also saw that white can sac both rooks.

Truly a brilliant game!

Oct-06-11  zealouspawn: duffer said, "However, I cannot understand why, after 14.Qxa8+, Schallopp did not interpose 14 ... Bc8. I suppose it is because 15.Rd1 would be white's spoiler."

if black plays 14..Bc8, it allows white to play 15. 0-0-0

Oct-06-11
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  Dionysius1: Ah my goodness. Bd5 looks beautiful to me. I tustle with myself sometimes: I could learn more of the techniques, but then what seems beautiful now might seem mundane with an educated eye. Anyone got any hope to offer for the benefits of learning the techniques? Is there still beauty?
Oct-06-11
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  chrisowen: <sevenseaman> <Once> yes the lama d5 also find pan handling it qxd4.

David really bad BF like gentle maestro it paid to recall these great <en republicain> golds divan boon.

Tell creek free good game it is in ghosting spurt ne5 threatens bishop in c6 squeeze light.

Still faith in bd6 jester? King and dark queen pair of rooks fog d5 on the nile a river I mmean lacke g4 be6 freed g6 scalp l0.

Oct-06-11  LIFE Master AJ: <<<jackpawn> Oct-06-11 Really, why does the mind work better some days than others?>>

Man, I would pay good money if someone could provide a solid answer to that one!

Oct-06-11  sevenseaman: <chrisowen> Supposing you gave me the <key> to the <code> you are using!

<LMAJ> Three main line responses to 1. Kd7 viz;

1...Nc7, 1...Nf6+ and 1...Nd6.

I missed the last 1...Nd6; but that is because I stopped looking for more after I got two. A very good puzzle indeed.

Oct-06-11  LIFE Master AJ: <<Oct-06-11 sevenseaman: I missed the last 1...Nd6; but that is because I stopped looking for more after I got two. A very good puzzle indeed.>>

Yes, thanks to V. Khenkin, I am really enjoying this book! ("1000 Checkmate Combinations.") MONSTER Tactics!!!

Oct-06-11  Dr. J: <Dionysius1: Is there still beauty?>

There is more, not less, without question.

Oct-06-11  LIFE Master AJ: Page #98 of the <1983 Dover Edition> of "The World's Greatest Chess Games," by R. Fine.

He gives this game ... and the one against Samisch.

Oct-06-11
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  FSR: <Once> I thought of the Tromp, but chose not to mention it because the knight isn't actually pinned, which is why 1.d4 Nf6 2.Bg5 Ne4 is possible. And in the related Torre Attack (1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 e6 3.Bg5), where the knight is pinned, the bishop <is> guarded. That is indeed a good thing, as some Tromp practitioners (Trompsters?) have learned. Z Djordjevic vs M Kovacevic, 1984
Oct-06-11
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  Honza Cervenka: 12.Bd5 is not very difficult to find but it is sweet.
Oct-06-11  LIFE Master AJ: <Honza> You are then a pretty darn good player ...
Oct-06-11  LIFE Master AJ: I stared at the diagram for some time, before I caught it. Sad thing is, I studied this game as a kid, used to have a book on Janowsky that someone gave me in New York.
Oct-06-11  David2009: Janowski vs E Schallopp, 1896 White 12?


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Crafty End Game Trainer interactive link to the puzzle position as above: http://www.chessvideos.tv/endgame-t.... You are white, drag and drop the move you want to make.

I blundered badly with 12.Nd5? met by 12...Kd7! turning the tables (I think). Against 12.Bd5! the EGT defends with the game line 12...exd5 13.Qxc6+ Kd8 14.Qxa8+ Kd7 15.Qb7+ Ke6 16.Qc6+ as far as move 16 but then varies with 16...Kf5!? to leave


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since 17.Qxd5+?? Qxd5 18.Nxd5 is met by 18...Bf6! winning back the N. Instead try 17.Qd7+! first. Time to study the earlier kibitzes.

Oct-06-11  sevenseaman: Missed you and Crafty, welcome back!
Oct-06-11  stst: main defense is the Bk Q on the diag.
so use the B to block:
12.Bd5 exd5
13.Qxc6+
IF (A) 13...Ke7, 14.Nxd5+ Kd8, 15.Qxa8+ Kd7, 16.Qxa7+ and with the other B, W should prevail IF (B) 13...Kd8, 14.Qxa8+ and similarly overwhelming for Bk The rest should be pretty easy for W.
Oct-06-11  TheBish: Janowski vs E Schallopp, 1896

White to play (12.?) "Medium:

White wins with 12. Bd5!, simultaneously defending the Ra1, attacking the queen and shielding the queen from its defense of c6.

After 12. Bd5! exd5 13. Qxc6+ Kd8 (or 13...Ke7 14. Bc5+ Kd8 15. Qxa8+) 14. Qxa8+ followed by 15. Kd2, White wins easily.

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Close enough!

Oct-07-11
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  Honza Cervenka: <LIFE Master AJ: <Honza> You are then a pretty darn good player ...> Thanks for the compliment but I don't think that to find the key move of this puzzle is such a great deal. In the position after 11...Qxg2 the move 12.Bd5 is practically forced, as the only reasonable alternative 12.Rf1 (12.Nd5 Rc8 leads nowhere and is clearly bad) 12...Ne7 is not much puzzle-solving-like continuation anyway, and it is quite grim for white too. 12.Bd5 simply covers the Rook and interferes (with a tempo) the black Queen's protection of Pc6 with decisive effect. It is not necessary to look much further than two or three (pretty much forced) moves from there to decide that 12.Bd5 wins the game due to winning of material. What is quite amazing is the fact that Janowski had to foresee 12.Bd5 already when he played 8.Ne5.
Oct-07-11
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  Honza Cervenka: Btw, the puzzle could start already from the position after black's 8...Qxd4(?). Of course, it would be much tougher task to calculate that 9.Nxc6 wins....:-)
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