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|Mar-22-13|| ||nnnnnnnn: One of the greatest Masterpieces of Chess Art! A game of indescribable Beauty. It is worth learning Chess just in order to appreciate the otherworldly Harmony of this game!|
It is also one of the most instructive games of all time and be sure...it instructed Kasparov too! Kasparov became the best,because he had the greatest teacher of them all – Karpov.
|Mar-22-13|| ||Just Another Master: I hated this game at the time, following these matches at school I had to buy the USA Today every day to see if there were updates....wow it seems like yesterday and forever at the same time. Now I can appreciate the greatness of both.|
|Apr-04-13|| ||Anderssen59: <Swarmoflocusts> Had Kasparov played: 63.....,Qd8 Karpov would have finished him off beautifully as follows: 64.Qc5+ Re7 65.Rf4+ Ke8 66.Qb5+!! (Incomparably better than 66.Qc6+) Qd7 (.....,Rd7 67.Bg6+ Ke7 68.Qe5 mate!!) 67.Bg6+ (67.Qb8+ Qd8 68.Rf8+ also does the trick) Kd8 69.Qb8+ Qc8 70.Qd6+ Qd7 (.....,Rd7 71.Rf8 mate) 71.Rf8+ mates.|
|Apr-04-13|| ||Anderssen59: With his move 35.....,Qc5 the wily Kasparov threatened: 36.....,Rxf2!!. 37.Qxf2 Be3 and "Game Over", but Karpov rose to the occasion - as he did so many times before in his glorious career - and proved that, as far as defensive prowess is concerned, he is second to none in the history of chess.|
|Apr-17-13|| ||JustAnotherPatzer: Roman Dzindi covered this game in one of his DVD series which i first encountered on YouTube. |
The channel featuring it has since been closed down due to multiple copyright violations, but had i not accessed it there first i probably wouldn't have known to get hold of Roman's DVDs.
It feels like such a glib observation but Karpov's manoeuvring culminating in the final position is truly stunning.
Like Kasparov's best wins over Karpov, the fact this masterpiece was played against Kasparov and in the context of such a nerve-jangingly tense WCC elevates it to among the greatest games ever played.
I agree w/ <VaselineTopLove>, it's even more impressive than his win over Topalov, although both are 'immortal'.
|Apr-17-13|| ||andrewjsacks: Two Titans duking it out in over 100 games. We miss these days...|
|Apr-17-13|| ||Capabal: <Chris00nj: According to the book "Endgame," this is the game that Bobby Fischer was convinced that proved the WC match "fixed", due to the consecutive number of moves Karpov made on the white squares.>|
Having squares of two different colors is a completely non-essential aspect of chess. You could have all the squares the same color, or have 64 different colors, or anything in between.
When Fischer walked down the street, he could (if he wanted to) imagine the sidewalk as alternating light and dark squares. Then, if he saw someone stepping on light squares 18 times in a row, he might call the authorities for “fixed” walking.
|Feb-16-14|| ||thegoodanarchist: <The match began at Tchaikovsky Hall in Moscow on September 3, 1985>|
That, and with the light square dominance of Karpov, must be the motivation for the pun.
|Apr-10-14|| ||tranquilsimplicity: This is the best Karpov game I have ever re-played. And it is played with devotion and non-deviation from Karpov's ultra-positional, solid but simple style. This is the apex of Simplicity and Elegance in Chess.♥|
|Jul-27-14|| ||Xeroxx: This game proves that Karpov was a better player than Kasparov.|
|Jul-27-14|| ||perfidious: Which, of course, is why Karpov was unable to win this match or any of the subsequent ones between these titans for the title.|
|Jul-27-14|| ||john barleycorn: <perfidious: Which, of course, is why Karpov was unable to win this match...>|
no, that was because it was arranged...
Seriously, the matches in 85 and 86 were so close that declaring any of the two athletes a better player is ridiculous, imo. 1984 was 1984 - big brother year.
|Aug-24-14|| ||Everett: <AnalyzeThis: I don't think Fischer really believed the games were fixed, he was just playing games with all of us.>|
He was playing games with himself, and lost (his mind.)
|Oct-26-14|| ||tranquilsimplicity: <Perfidious> "Which, of course, is why Karpov was unable to win this match..." And the sarcasm that deflates illogical and fatuous concepts keeps coming...ha ha ha ha! I love the way you do it.#|
|Oct-26-14|| ||perfidious: <Capabal: When Fischer walked down the street, he could (if he wanted to) imagine the sidewalk as alternating light and dark squares. Then, if he saw someone stepping on light squares 18 times in a row, he might call the authorities for “fixed” walking.>|
So he might have done.....very good!
|Feb-07-15|| ||WDenayer: Fischer was crazy, sad but true. These matches were not 'arranged.'|
|Jan-03-16|| ||thegoodanarchist: 28.Bh5 is a GM mystery move. What the heck is going on?|
It is a symbol of Karpov's mastery of chess. Who else could find such a move?
|Dec-02-16|| ||N.O.F. NAJDORF: Fischer's allegations of pre-arranged World Championship match games was a regurgitation of his claim that twelve games at the 1962 Candidates' Tournament had been prearranged.|
He even told Dick Cavett, when asked by him to explain what he meant when he had made allegations of cheating, that they had pre-arranged the results of games in order to prevent him from winning the tournament.
My own feeling is that if this game did convince Fischer of anything, it was that he would have found it very difficult to last the distance against Karpov in a match of a limited number of games.
|Dec-29-16|| ||SpaceRunner: "He even began saying that the Karpov - Korchnoi matches were pre-arranged."|
Who would know? It was dangerous times!
Korchnoi told in "The day Kasparov quit and other chess interviews" 2006 by Dirk Jan ten Geuzendam" that "Today we know that Fischer's accusations were spot-on"p. 240
Furthermore Kortnois wife also states "Tal told us that everything had been prepared. If Viktor had won he
would have simply been eliminated as soon as possible.'
'Yes. Because it was unthinkable that a dissident would be world chess
champion. Triumphs over the Soviet Union. This is something one can
only understand if one understands communism.'p.172
It sounds crazy I know but similar stories are told by several russian and english players...
|Dec-29-16|| ||WorstPlayerEver: Yeah, chess players write for money, but usually they can't write. That's why they've to come up with a lot of bs.|
|Dec-29-16|| ||Clement Fraud: Bobby Fischer was a very perceptive man; it is and always has been the case that chess' international hierarchies are guilty of corrupt practices. I do, however, feel that BF was mistaken when he suggested that the games between Karpov and Kasparov were ever fixed (they hated each other too much to have ever consented to that). I do have to say, though, that Bobby was right when he stipulated that drawn games should not be counted in matches for the world championship.|
|Dec-29-16|| ||WorstPlayerEver: Interesting, I think Bobby made this statement about KK '84-'85 during the Belgrade part of the '92 match? Not sure.
However, when Bobby spat on that US document, he wasn't thinking too far ahead anymore. And he must have felt the most out of place by then; he wasn't there for chess in Belgrade. It was for the cash. Kind of sad really.|
|Jul-18-17|| ||Toribio3: Exploitation of the white squares by Karpov was a key component to his success in this game.|
|Jul-21-17|| ||Johnnysaysthankyou: White in this game has a classic attacking advantage. He's up a piece!|
|Jul-21-17|| ||john barleycorn: < Johnnysaysthankyou: White in this game has a classic attacking advantage. He's up a piece!>|
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