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|Feb-09-12|| ||Diademas: Great coverage of the match and analyses on this game by Kasparov here.
|Jul-28-12|| ||Conrad93: 34. Nf7+ Qxf7 35. Qxh6+ Bh7 36. Rxa8 Ne7 37. Rxf8+ Ng8 38. Rxg8+ Qxg8 39. Qxh7#.|
Seems much quicker. I know you can't expect player to see this kind of stuff, but nonetheless Kasparov is famous for his calculating abilities.
|Apr-21-13|| ||wilbeerthoven: Why not 11.Cg5!... ??|
|Apr-21-13|| ||Phony Benoni: <wilbeerthoven>: <11.♘g5>:|
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is an often played move that can lead to a quick draw. Black has no better answer than <11...♖f8>, then White has nothing better than moving back with <12.♘f3>. There are literally dozens of games in the database where the players just repeat these moves and quickly agree to a draw.
The idea can also be used as a device to play a few extra moves without thinking in order to save time on the clock.
On the other hand, not playing <11.♘g5>, as Kasparov does here, can be considered a declaration that White is playing for a win.
|Apr-28-13|| ||wilbeerthoven: Ok 12.Nf3 is the right choice at top level, but really 12.f4 isn't playable for the rest of us?|
|Apr-29-13|| ||mistreaver: <wilbeerthoven: Ok 12.Nf3 is the right choice at top level, but really 12.f4 isn't playable for the rest of us?>
Kasparov in his books says the following:
<12.f4, including the f-pawn in the attack, encounters a clever tactical rejoinder - 12... exf4 13 Bxf4 Na5 14 Bc2 Nd5>
And also, the natural 12... h6 doesn't look that bad at all, say 13 Nf3 Re8 and black is fine.
|Jul-03-13|| ||Everett: We can credit Kasparov with making Karpov play this double-edged system as Black. IMHO this is one of the reasons why Karpov became even a bigger beast after losing the title, since he started to play with more bite as Black. Perhaps he knew he could not afford to play solid/passive positions vs Kasparov.|
And the fact is, in many of these Zaitsev Ruy games, he was actually alright out of the opening, but boy were the positions complex. Kasparov seemed to handle them better at crucial times, even though he was in hot water in a couple of them through the years, including the 1990 match.
That said, I wonder why Karpov never played the Breyer-like <13.Nb8> as be did here Kasparov vs Karpov, 1985 Maybe his team saw something in that line that put them off of it.
|Jul-04-13|| ||Everett: <chessenthus: <black will lose more quickly with 29. Kg8
after 29...kg8 30.Nf6+ Nxf6 31 Nh6+ Kh7 32. Nf7#>|
A bit of a calculation mistake on yur side....Black cant play 31...Kh7 as that square is controlled by the bishop on b1.
And if he plays 31..Kh8 32.Nf7 is not checkmate.
I feel that 29..Kg8 was a better move.>
indeed, 29..Kg8 looks like a draw to the computers.
|Jul-30-13|| ||ynaamad: <Everett> indeed, 29..Kg8 looks like a draw to the computers.|
Are you sure? 30. Kh2 clears the way for the deadly Ng5, which black can't stop without sacrificing an insurmountable amount of material.
|Jul-30-13|| ||SimonWebbsTiger: 29...Kg8 30. Kh2!
"...is decisive - Black is in a kind of zugzwang."
Garry Kasparov - On Modern Chess, Part Four (p.248)
|Sep-08-13|| ||thegoodanarchist: This is a beautiful win by the second greatest chess player of all time.|
|Sep-21-13|| ||Eduardo Leon: I noticed a comment from long ago with an engine analysis that says that <34.♘f7+> is a mate in 6. Would the complete line be <34.♘f7+ ♕xf7 35.♕xh6+ ♗h7 36.♖xf8+ ♖xf8 37.♗xh7 (any) 38.♗(wherever)+ ♕h7 39.♕xh7#>?|
|Nov-11-13|| ||Zhbugnoimt: <thegoodanarchist>: good point. Fischer was better.|
The engine gives 12.Ng5! Re7 13.Nxf7! Rxf7 14.Bxf7+ Kxf7 15.d5! Nb8 16.Nf1 Nbd7 17.Bg5 Be7 +0.54. that would be + over =
|Nov-11-13|| ||Zhbugnoimt: 34.Nf7+! Qxf7 35.Qxh6+ Bh7 36.Rxa8 and mate in 3.|
|Dec-21-14|| ||mickek977: Kasparov says himself in that linked YouTube-video that take with the rook instead on move 37 and then just move it back again is mate. I couldn't see that line in the comments yet.|
|Jan-20-15|| ||newzild: Levon Aronian cited this game as being one of his "favourites of all time", and stated that it was the inspiration for the following game against Jobava at Tata Steel, 2015: Aronian vs Jobava, 2015|
|Jan-26-15|| ||Fanques Fair: Does 25..., Qh4 ! defend ?|
|Jan-26-15|| ||anandrulez: Kasparov was lucky here in some sense. After 25 ..Nd3 black is playing for the win. |
Karpov-Kasparov is a good example of psychology dominating the game when skills are nearly equal. I haven't analysed their games in depth but it appears Karpov in his prime was never really weak than Kasparov however they had a different approach.
|Mar-25-15|| ||AylerKupp: <<Zhbugnoimt> Good point. Fischer was better.>|
In what way?
|Mar-25-15|| ||keypusher: <Zhbugnoimt: <thegoodanarchist>: good point. Fischer was better.>|
He meant Lasker.
|Mar-25-15|| ||offramp: If only Karpov had heard of the Berlin!|
|Mar-26-15|| ||carpovius: <Zhbugnoimt: <thegoodanarchist>: good point. Fischer was better.>|
He meant Karpov.
|Jul-22-15|| ||Albion 1959: This is similar to something that Morphy used to do against the weak opposition that he played all too often. But here, this is not some no-mark minor master. And it is worth remembering that Kasparov is doing this to a former world champion who was one the greatest tournament and match players who ever played the game !!|
|Sep-25-15|| ||kamagong24: yes! what is Karpov played the Berlin?!|
|Nov-01-15|| ||apexin: This is interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMe...|
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