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| Aug-31-06 | | Wade Keller: Sorry about that. My mistake. |
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Aug-31-06
 | | al wazir: <Domdaniel>: Your suggestion 15. Ne4 is interesting, but it puts white two pieces down. Black could give up the  and not be too badly off.The reason white had so many resources is that his opponent's development was retarded (eight of black's first ten moves were  moves). Ehlvest at 15 also was not yet the player he later became. |
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| Aug-31-06 | | dravid: amazing game by the young garry!!! |
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| Aug-31-06 | | Castle In The Sky: If Ehlvest had left the building, he would never have lost. |
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Aug-31-06
 | | Boomie: <nuwanda> At age 15, GK's rating rose from about 2600 to 2700. Yes he was a bit stronger than all of us...put together...lol. |
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| Aug-31-06 | | Rocafella: <Boomie> Nonsense, I have a FIDE Rating of 2745! :P |
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Aug-31-06
 | | Domdaniel: <al wazir: <Domdaniel>: Your suggestion 15. Ne4 is interesting, but it puts white two pieces down. Black could give up the and not be too badly off.>
No - surely White would be only one piece down - he still has Nd4 and two bishops; and there's no easy way for Black to protect the Ra8, so taking it would leave White an exchange ahead.
Actually, this line is even stronger than I thought - eg, 15.Ne4 dxe4 16.Bxe4 Ra7 17.Nxe6! is crushing. Even the 'discovered check' I mentioned earlier (after 15.Ne4 dxe4 16.Bxe4 Nf6 17.exf6 Rxh5? 18.fxg7 Kd7?) is actually mate in 2 with 19.Nc6+ I tried this out on Fritz - to my surprise it said Black is effectively lost after 15.Ne4 dxe4? - and alternatives like 15...Nc8 aren't so hot either.
I still feel there must be a deep defensive line - beyond my capacity and over the engine horizon - but I just don't see one. Maybe I was overestimating these two 15-yr-olds after all... |
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| Aug-31-06 | | Albertan: Ehlvest's problems in this game appear to have started on move 13 when he played 13...d5? Instead he could have played 13...Nf8 with a possible continuation being: 13... Nf8 14. Qg4 d5 15. Bd3 Bb7 16. Bxb5+!? axb5 17. Ncxb5 Ra6 18. Nd6+ Rxd6 19. exd6 Nc6 20.Nxc6 Bxc6 21. Rde1 d4  |
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| Sep-01-06 | | euripides: 8...h6 is not found elsewhere in this database. The usual approach, which was introduced (as Honza said above) by Polugavsky and has been intensively analysed, is 8...dxe5 9 fxe5 Qc7. I don't know the current state of play on the theory of that line. On <13...Nf8> I like the look of 14 Qf3 e.g. 14....Ra7 15 exd6. 14...d5 looks like the game though 15 Nf5 may then be worth consdering. |
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| Sep-02-06 | | Albertan: <euripides: The usual approach, which was introduced (as Honza said above) by Polugavsky and has been intensively analysed, is 8...dxe5 9 fxe5 Qc7. I don't know the current state of play on the theory of that line.> Hi euripedes. The current state of play in this line is that after 9...Qc7 the most often played continuation is 10.exf6 Qe5+ 11.Be2 Qxg5 12.Qd3 Qxf6 13.Rf1 Qe5 14.Rd1 Ra7 15.Nf3 Qc7 16.Nf5 f5 17.Qd4 Qe7 18.Bh5+ g6 19.Qxh8 Qxg4 as played in Ebenfelt- Unander SWE-ch 1984,Hellers-Polugaevsky Haninge 1989, Koch-Gallagher Lyon op 1993, and Castelfranchi-Leroy Budapest FS07 IM, 1994. |
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Sep-05-06
 | | patzer2: Yeah it looks like Elvis (Ehlvest) left the building early with 8...h6?, and Kasparov was the one saying "thank you, thank you very much!" After 9. Bh4! this game is pretty much a foot note in the opening as to why not to play 8...h6? Kasparov's followup 15. Rhf1! initiates a decisive combination to exploit Black's lack of development and helplessly exposed King position. |
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Sep-05-06
| | patzer2: Instead of 8...h6?, Black should play 8...dxe5 9. fxe5 Qc7! = as in B Savchenko vs I Cheparinov, 2005. |
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Nov-04-07
 | | sallom89: Kasparov was being paul morphy wanna be :p
he did let his opponent to feel that he can advance and attack. |
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Mar-29-08
| | sallom89: <sallom89: Kasparov was being paul morphy wanna be :p
he did let his opponent to feel that he can advance and attack.> that sounded childish... |
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May-15-09
 | | HeMateMe: The opening itself seems pretty ugly for black. Knight, stuck on h7, in a blown open king side? Looks horrible, and thats apparently the desired setup. |
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| May-15-09 | | Ychromosome: This game makes me very happy. |
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May-15-09
 | | hedgeh0g: What a game! Look at how many pawn moves Black plays in his first 9 moves! |
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May-15-09
 | | whiteshark: <EmperorAtahualpa> Thanks for explaining the pun a few years in advance... :D |
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May-15-09
 | | kevin86: Why should black resign here? He is playing the young chess phenom (and future champion) and is a knight and two pawns to the bad. |
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May-15-09
| | hedgeh0g: <kevin86> Didn't you just answer your own question? |
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| May-15-09 | | ungeneral: <kevin86> It is worse than that, it's mate to follow soon |
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| May-15-09 | | wgb: The same thing I noticed and was about to post...Nd6+...what am I missing? |
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| May-15-09 | | WhiteRook48: Disaster |
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| May-15-09 | | AnalyzeThis: You pretty much have to be a lunatic to play this way against Kasparov, but in Ehlvest's defense, Kasprov was still a junior then, not yet at his peak strength. |
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May-16-09
| | kevin86: my post was a bit of sarcasm. I guess it was a poor one. |
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sac: 16.Ncb5
