|Aug-21-02|| ||refutor: Deep theory is right! The game Kasparov vs Gennadi Timoshchenko, 1981 which looks *very* similar for the most part to this game took place earlier in the same tournament. Refer to Kasparov's "Test of Time" for more details|
Dorfman's 30. ... Be5 was an improvement on Timoschenko's 30. ... e5
|Aug-21-02|| ||morphynoman2: Good job, refutor, that's right. |
|Aug-11-04|| ||Honza Cervenka: <refutor> It means that Timoshchenko lost his game over the board and Dorfman at home (or in hotel room).:-) |
|Oct-26-04|| ||offramp: Karpov wrote, "After 30....e5 31.c5 xc5 32.xc5! the only thing that stopped black resigning was the thought that he had lost a game in essentially two moves!" |
|May-09-05|| ||Orbitkind: That's what I thought too refutor; it's extremely similar to that other game.|
|Nov-08-05|| ||alexandrovm: <refutor: Deep theory is right! The game Kasparov vs Gennadi Timoshchenko, 1981 which looks *very* similar for the most part to this game took> not "very" similar, but the same moves! up to 30....Be5
Impressive display by Kasparov|
|Mar-09-08|| ||hedgeh0g: Haha, glad to hear I'm not the only one who noticed the striking similarity. In my opinion, memorising a 30-move sequence and then just playing it out move-for-move on the board defeats the purpose of playing chess. I mean, technically speaking, you're not even playing your own game!|
|Mar-09-08|| ||Jim Bartle: For some it's "memorising a 30-move sequence"; for others it's "having good opening preparation."|
|Mar-09-08|| ||ketchuplover: I like 29.Rc7+|
|Sep-14-08|| ||Underworld: <ketchuplover> 29.Rc7+ doesn't work due to: 29.Rc7+ Bxc7 30.Qxc7+ Ke8 and the trip is over b/c the knight on a5 is proctecting the c6 square needed to do another check. Overall it would be a failed attempt.|
|Jul-02-11|| ||Kinghunt: Is this the latest novelty there's ever been in a game? Probably not, but I can't think of any games where it was later. I'd much appreciate it if someone could point me to the latest novelty there's ever been.|
|Jul-02-11|| ||FSR: Pretty pathetic for a GM to prepare an "improvement" on move 29 and have a resignable position on move 32. Of course, this wouldn't happen these days with Houdini and such.|
|Jul-02-11|| ||perfidious: <Kinghunt: Is this the latest novelty there's ever been in a game? Probably not, but I can't think of any games where it was later. I'd much appreciate it if someone could point me to the latest novelty there's ever been.>|
Have a go at this one: I Novikov vs V Tukmakov, 1984.
|Jul-03-11|| ||FSR: In the 60s and 70s they called IM Bernard Zuckerman "Zuck the Book." Now every top player has to be _____ the Book.|
|Jul-03-11|| ||NARC: I have plans to start playing the Meran, but if I have to keep tack of all this in the Botvinnik system first I am having second thoughts.|
|Jul-03-11|| ||FSR: <NARC> You can always play the Moscow Variation (5...h6), but that has a lot of theory too.|
|Jul-03-11|| ||perfidious: <NARC> An alternative to <FSR>'s suggestion is 5....Nbd7, after which you can transpose to a classical QGD or play the Cambridge Springs with 6.e3 Qa5.|
If you play the Moscow line, Alexey Dreev 's games are well worth studying, as this has long been a speciality of his for Black.
|Oct-03-11|| ||DrMAL: Back-to-back duet for theoretical deul of Botvinnik variation (round after Kasparov vs G Timoshchenko, 1981) where, from new tabiya after 30.Bxa7 black played 30...Be5 that was topic of hot debate led by Sveshnikov who was hammering on how it should win. See other game for more on this move, second best to 30...e5 originally played, and hence losing faster. Computer line repeated here.|
Houdini_20_x64: 27/72 59:41 32,070,400,180
-1.20 30. ... e5 31.Qa2 Rd1+ 32.Rxd1 Qxd1+ 33.Kg2 Nb3
-2.03 30. ... Be5 31.Rc5 Rxc5 32.Bxc5 Rb8 33.Qd3+ Kc6
Comparing to computer line shows further inaccuracy with 32...Nc6 and 33...Kc8 pair as inaccuracy. But, little to his knowledge then, black was lost to begin with, Sveshnikov and his supporters were wrong and teenager Garry was right in playing what he did.
While thinking about this game in-between rounds in the middle of the night between the two, Kasparov realized that 32.Bxc5 (not Qxc5) was the answer. As one might expect he was right he found the refutation to 30...Be5 through this move.
Houdini_20_x64: 24/63 03:16 1,774,757,203
+1.56 32.Bxc5 Nc6 33.Qd3+ Nd4
0.00 32.Qxc5 Nc6 33.Rb7+ Bc7 repetition
Game starts after discussion about half way through video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgzk... or get DVD #2 (or all five DVDs) of My Story (e.g., http://www.amazon.com/Story-Garry-K...) I highly recommend watching entire series.
|Oct-03-11|| ||anandrulez: Is Garry's sacrifice correct especially Nxc3 ?|
|Oct-03-11|| ||DrMAL: <anandrulez> Most definitely, please see earlier game with Timoshchenco (and one with Tal) for more on that, cheers.|