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|May-09-05|| ||Orbitkind: That's what I thought too refutor; it's extremely similar to that other game.|
|Nov-08-05|| ||alexandrovm: <refutor: Deep theory is right! The game Kasparov vs Gennadi Timoshchenko, 1981 which looks *very* similar for the most part to this game took> not "very" similar, but the same moves! up to 30....Be5
Impressive display by Kasparov|
|Mar-09-08|| ||hedgeh0g: Haha, glad to hear I'm not the only one who noticed the striking similarity. In my opinion, memorising a 30-move sequence and then just playing it out move-for-move on the board defeats the purpose of playing chess. I mean, technically speaking, you're not even playing your own game!|
|Mar-09-08|| ||Jim Bartle: For some it's "memorising a 30-move sequence"; for others it's "having good opening preparation."|
|Mar-09-08|| ||ketchuplover: I like 29.Rc7+|
|Sep-14-08|| ||Underworld: <ketchuplover> 29.Rc7+ doesn't work due to: 29.Rc7+ Bxc7 30.Qxc7+ Ke8 and the trip is over b/c the knight on a5 is proctecting the c6 square needed to do another check. Overall it would be a failed attempt.|
|Jul-02-11|| ||Kinghunt: Is this the latest novelty there's ever been in a game? Probably not, but I can't think of any games where it was later. I'd much appreciate it if someone could point me to the latest novelty there's ever been.|
|Jul-02-11|| ||FSR: Pretty pathetic for a GM to prepare an "improvement" on move 29 and have a resignable position on move 32. Of course, this wouldn't happen these days with Houdini and such.|
|Jul-02-11|| ||perfidious: <Kinghunt: Is this the latest novelty there's ever been in a game? Probably not, but I can't think of any games where it was later. I'd much appreciate it if someone could point me to the latest novelty there's ever been.>|
Have a go at this one: I Novikov vs V Tukmakov, 1984.
|Jul-03-11|| ||FSR: In the 60s and 70s they called IM Bernard Zuckerman "Zuck the Book." Now every top player has to be _____ the Book.|
|Jul-03-11|| ||NARC: I have plans to start playing the Meran, but if I have to keep tack of all this in the Botvinnik system first I am having second thoughts.|
|Jul-03-11|| ||FSR: <NARC> You can always play the Moscow Variation (5...h6), but that has a lot of theory too.|
|Jul-03-11|| ||perfidious: <NARC> An alternative to <FSR>'s suggestion is 5....Nbd7, after which you can transpose to a classical QGD or play the Cambridge Springs with 6.e3 Qa5.|
If you play the Moscow line, Alexey Dreev 's games are well worth studying, as this has long been a speciality of his for Black.
|Oct-03-11|| ||DrMAL: Back-to-back duet for theoretical deul of Botvinnik variation (round after Kasparov vs G Timoshchenko, 1981) where, from new tabiya after 30.Bxa7 black played 30...Be5 that was topic of hot debate led by Sveshnikov who was hammering on how it should win. See other game for more on this move, second best to 30...e5 originally played, and hence losing faster. Computer line repeated here.|
Houdini_20_x64: 27/72 59:41 32,070,400,180
-1.20 30. ... e5 31.Qa2 Rd1+ 32.Rxd1 Qxd1+ 33.Kg2 Nb3
-2.03 30. ... Be5 31.Rc5 Rxc5 32.Bxc5 Rb8 33.Qd3+ Kc6
Comparing to computer line shows further inaccuracy with 32...Nc6 and 33...Kc8 pair as inaccuracy. But, little to his knowledge then, black was lost to begin with, Sveshnikov and his supporters were wrong and teenager Garry was right in playing what he did.
While thinking about this game in-between rounds in the middle of the night between the two, Kasparov realized that 32.Bxc5 (not Qxc5) was the answer. As one might expect he was right he found the refutation to 30...Be5 through this move.
Houdini_20_x64: 24/63 03:16 1,774,757,203
+1.56 32.Bxc5 Nc6 33.Qd3+ Nd4
0.00 32.Qxc5 Nc6 33.Rb7+ Bc7 repetition
Game starts after discussion about half way through video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgzk... or get DVD #2 (or all five DVDs) of My Story (e.g., http://www.amazon.com/Story-Garry-K...) I highly recommend watching entire series.
|Oct-03-11|| ||anandrulez: Is Garry's sacrifice correct especially Nxc3 ?|
|Oct-03-11|| ||DrMAL: <anandrulez> Most definitely, please see earlier game with Timoshchenco (and one with Tal) for more on that, cheers.|
|Apr-06-15|| ||SpaceRunner: 13..-, Nxf6!|
|Apr-21-17|| ||Howard: Both this game and its "predecessor" are analyzed thoroughly in Kasparov's book of his best games during this period.|
|Aug-02-18|| ||Ironmanth: Surgical and beautiful! Thanks for this one, chessgames.|
|Aug-02-18|| ||HeMateMe: Isn't Frunze the location of a high level Russian military academy? I think it's their officer's school or a FSB training school.|
|Aug-02-18|| ||Strelets: That one is in Moscow but, like the city of Bishkek during the Soviet period, also takes its name from the same guy.|
|Aug-02-18|| ||lzromeu: Usually, castling goes to a double rook. This one by black goes to nothing.|
|Aug-02-18|| ||cormier: |
click for larger view
Analysis by Houdini 4: d 22 dpa done
<1. = (0.00): 26...Nc6> 27.Rc1 Nd8 28.Rc8 Bd6 29.b4 Be5 30.Rc5 Rxc5 31.Bxc5 Bxf6 32.Qd2+ Ke8 33.Qf4 Bb2 34.Rc2 Qa4 35.Rxb2 Qa1+ 36.Kg2 Qxb2 37.Qd6 Qf6 38.Qa6 Kd7 39.Qxa7+ Kc8 40.Qa8+ Kc7 41.Qa7+ Kc8 42.Qa8+
<<2. + / - (1.37)>: 26...Bd6 27.Rc1 Qb7 28.b4 Qxb4 29.Rb1 Qg4 30.Bxa7> e5 31.Qa2 Rd1+ 32.Rxd1 Qxd1+ 33.Kg2 Nb3 34.Rxb3 Qd5+ 35.f3 Ra8 36.Qa4+ Ke6 37.Rb2 Kxf6 38.Qh4+ Kg7 39.Qg5+ Kf8 40.Qh6+ Ke7 41.Qe3 Qe6 42.h4 Kf8 43.h5 e4 44.Bd4 exf3+ 45.Qxf3 Ra3 46.Rb8+ Bxb8 47.Qxa3+ Kg8 48.Qf3 Kh7 49.g4 Kg8 50.Kf2 Be5 51.Bxe5 Qxe5 52.Qe3 Qd6 53.Kf3 Kg7
|Aug-02-18|| ||The Kings Domain: Impressively deep victory by the young Kasparov.|
|Aug-02-18|| ||Breunor: It looks like stockfish views 26 … Bxd6
as the move giving white a big advantage.
1) +1.45 (30 ply) 27.Rc1 Qb7 28.b4 Qxb4 29.Rb1 Qg4 30.Bxa7 e5 31.Qa2 Rd1+ 32.Rxd1 Qxd1+ 33.Kg2 Nb3 34.Qxb3 Qxb3 35.Rxb3 Ke6 36.Be3 Kxf6 37.Rb6 Ke7 38.Bg5+ Ke6 39.h4 f5 40.Kh3 Kd5 41.Ra6 e4 42.Bf6 Re8 43.Ra5+ Ke6 44.Bg7 Rg8 45.Bd4 f4 46.g4 Ke7 47.h5
although Cormier's analysis with Houdini giving a different view may be more accurate.
Black stays even with Nc6 instead (according to SF)
=0.00 (31 ply) 26...Nc6 27.Rc1 Nd8 28.h4 Ke8 29.Rd1 Rxd1+ 30.Qxd1 Nc6 31.Qc2 Kd7 32.Qd1+ Ke8
Stockfish does not like the improvement 30 ... Be5:
1) +2.47 (29 ply) 31.Rc5 Rxc5 32.Bxc5 Rb8 33.Qd3+ Kc6 34.Qa6+ Kd7 35.Rxb8 Qd1+ 36.Kg2 Qd5+ 37.Kh3 Bxb8 38.Qxa5 Be5 39.Qa4+ Qc6 40.Qxc6+ Kxc6 41.Be7 Bd4 42.f3 Bg1 43.g4 Be3 44.Kg2 Kd5 45.h4 Ke5 46.g5 Kf5 47.Kg3 Bf4+ 48.Kh3 Bc7 49.Bc5
Instead, it prefers e5
1) +1.57 (29 ply) 30...e5 31.Qa2 Rd1+ 32.Rxd1 Qxd1+ 33.Kg2 Nb3 34.Qa4+ Ke6 35.Qc4+ Qd5+ 36.Qxd5+ Kxd5 37.Rxb3 Ke6 38.Be3 Kxf6 39.Rb6 Ke7 40.Bg5+ Ke6 41.h4 f5 42.Kh3 Kd5 43.g4 Rf8 44.gxf5 Rxf5 45.Be3 Bc7 46.Ra6 Rf7 47.h5 Ke4 48.h6 Kf5 49.f3 Re7 50.Kh4 Bd8
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