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Jul-12-05 | | davewv: Using this game as example of Yugoslav Attack described on page 89 of Secrets of Sicilian Dragon by Schiller and Gufeld |
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Nov-14-05 | | MarkN: <chessgames.com>, this would make a good puzzle from move 34 |
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Mar-02-06 | | thathwamasi: <MarkN> u r right..it was a good puzzle...but quiet simple |
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Mar-02-06
 | | WannaBe: Um, yes, if 37. bxc5 Qa5+. |
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Mar-02-06
 | | offramp: You would expect the puzzle to begin at move 36, not at move 34. |
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Mar-02-06 | | RandomVisitor: or 34...Qa2+ 35. Kc1 Qxb3 36. cxb3 Ra1 37. Kb2 Rxe1 |
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Mar-02-06 | | unclewalter: what if 34...Rxb4? |
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Mar-02-06 | | dzechiel: I looked at this long and hard and came up with 34...♖xb4. The rook cannot be captured (mate in 1 if by the queen, 2 if by the rook), but the move also doesn't seem to threaten all that much. I was so delighted when I spotted this rook "sac", that I stopped looking at other moves. I was truly surprised when the key move turned out to be the pedestrian queen check! |
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Mar-02-06 | | unclewalter: i think it wins a rook eventually...still not as good as the move played. |
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Mar-02-06 | | chesstoplay: Korchnoi is the strongest player in the history of chess up until the 1990s to not be world champion. |
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Mar-02-06 | | unclewalter: look at his picture. i think i must be too happy to be good at chess. chess players always look incredibly pissed off or frustrated. |
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Mar-02-06 | | Jim Bartle: Being "incredibly pissed off or frustrated" may be a good traits for chessplayer, but I propose myself as Exhibit A that it isn't enough without some talent to back it up. |
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Mar-02-06 | | Snosko: was more beautiful 34... Rxe4 35. fxe4 (35. Qxe4?? Qa8++) Qa2+ 36. Kc3 Rc8+ 37. Kd3 Qxc2+ wining the rook. |
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Mar-02-06 | | patzer2: Today's puzzle solution in 34...Qa2+! sets up a skewer to win the Queen after 37. bxc5 38. Qa5+ Kb2 39. Qxe1 .I didn't get this solution, but I can take solace in the fact that my pick of 34...Rxb4! is also clearly decisive ( -5.22 @ 14 depth, Fritz 8). |
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Mar-02-06 | | Snosko: was more beautiful 34... Rxe4 35. fxe4 (35. Qxe4?? Qa8++) Qa2+ 36. Kc3 Rc8+ 37. Kd3 Qxc2+ wining the rook |
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Mar-02-06
 | | al wazir: 37. bxc5 Qa5+, winning the ♕.
My move was 34...Rxb4. If 35. Rxb4 then 35...Qa3+ 36. Kb1 Qa1#. If 35. Qxb4 or Kb1 then 35...Qa1#. If 35. f7 then 35...Rxb3+ 36. cxb3 (36. Kxc3 Qa2+ 36. Kc3 Qxf7) Qa2+ 37. Kc1/Kc3 Rc8+ 38. Kd1/Kd3 Qxb3+ 39. any Qxf7. If 35. Nd2 or Nd5 then 35...Rxb3+ 36. Nxb3 Qxf5, and black has a ♖ and a ♙ for a ♘. |
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Mar-02-06 | | MaxxLange: add me to the list of solvers who saw the first 2 moves and then planned 36...b6, missing that the White queen is hanging after 36...Rxc5+! 37. bxc5 Qa5+ |
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Mar-02-06 | | aazqua: This isn't much of a puzzle. Personally I think Rb4 is a lot more interesting than the actual continuation. At least it's jazzy and white has no response. |
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Mar-02-06 | | simsan: I also saw Rxb4. I looked at the listed move also, but didn't see the rest of the game continuation. By the way: I think that the theme of the week is "forcing moves". Pick the most forcing move, choose the most forcing continuation and down the line (a little longer than usual) there is treasure to be had. |
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Mar-02-06 | | legi: Another one with ♖xb4. Black is clearly winning. I saw 35. ♔c1 as a move which doesnt loose material immediately. <Snosko:> I think ♖xe4 35.fxe4 ♕a2+ doesnt work in view of 36.♔c1, and then? <aazqua:> Obviously, ♕a2+! is the simplest, most forcing, and best move in this position. It wins at least a rook in only a few moves. I didn't see the beautiful 35...♕xb3 which does the trick after 35.♔c1. |
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Mar-02-06 | | 2ndNature: I looked first at 34...Qa2+ because such moves have to be looked first, and later it was just a matter of finding continuations for: A) 35. Kc3
B) 35. Kc1
A) 35. Kc3 is followed, as in the text, with 35...Rc8+ 36. Nc5 Rxc5+ 37. bxc5 Qa5+ winning white Qe1. B) 35. Kc1 is followed with 35...Qxb3 36. cxb3 Ra1+ and white Qe1 is lost too - seems to be too easy for Thursday but then again I've been failing to solve Wednesday's puzzles at times... |
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Mar-02-06 | | zarra: I got Rxb4, too. Couldn't figure out the win after Qa2+. |
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Mar-02-06 | | doglikegroove: <2ndNature: seems to be too easy for Thursday but then again I've been failing to solve Wednesday's puzzles at times...> Agreed on both counts. I'm back from a night out and 5 martini's deep, so when I saw it I would click and then hit the back button, because I must be missing something. But I guess that is a testament to chessgames.com puzzles: where I have confidence in solving other types of puzzles, here I'm never so sure that I'm right! |
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Mar-02-06
 | | OhioChessFan: Grrrrrrrrr. I was proud of myself for finding Rxb4. Ditto <zarra> in not finding the win after Qa2. |
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Mar-02-06 | | Frankly: OK, it's official: I'm entitled to feel relatively happy with ...Rxb4. But, hey, let's face it - the game move is a lot better. |
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