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|Aug-14-16|| ||j4jishnu: Its a holiday in India today, celebrating our 70th day of Independence. I have some time to study this cool game. Thanks ChessGames.com|
|Aug-15-16|| ||kevin86: white doesn't even NEED a second queen!|
|Oct-28-18|| ||al wazir: What was wrong with 22...Qxe8 23. fxe8=Q Rxe8 ? Black is a piece up.|
|Oct-28-18|| ||Gregor Samsa Mendel: <aw>--In the line you give, after 24 Nxd7 it is white who has the extra piece.|
|Oct-28-18|| ||al wazir: <Gregor Samsa Mendel>: You're right. I miscounted.
But after 24...Kc6, white has to play 25. Nb6. Now the ♘ is stuck in place. Black can play 25...Rxe3 26. fxe3 Kxb6, and white has a tough ♖ vs. ♗ endgame.|
Probably it's still a win, but it's better for black than what happened in the game.
|Oct-28-18|| ||drollere: 14...Kxf7, 15. Qf3+ Nf6 [or Qf6], 16. Qxh1 is nearly equal. at least, it doesn't seem worse than retreating the K to d5.|
|Oct-28-18|| ||Walter Glattke: 13.Nxe6 fxe6 14.Qg4 Qf6 15.Bg5 Qf7 16.hxg6 Qxg6 17.Rxh8 wins. 17.-Ne5 18.Qf4 - 13.fxg6 Rxh1 14.gxf7+ Kxf7 15.Qg4 Qf6 16.Bg5 Qg6 17.0-0-0 Ne5! black wins. 15.Qf3 Qf6 black wins.|
|Oct-28-18|| ||Walter Glattke: In the match: 22.-Nxf8 black should win.|
|Oct-28-18|| ||Matloc: 22... Ne5
A horse, a horse! My kingdom for a horse!
|Oct-28-18|| ||Matloc: <Walter Glattke>: If 22...Nxf8 still 21. Rd1+ and mate in 4|
|Oct-28-18|| ||thegoodanarchist: What a slobber-knocker of a game!|
|Oct-28-18|| ||schachfuchs: This is the line of the engine:
+3.10 (24 ply) 22...Qxe8 23.fxe8=Q Rxe8 24.Nxd7 Kc6 25.Nb6 Rxe3 26.fxe3 Kxb6 27.Rd1 Kc7 28.Rd4 Bc8 29.Kf2 Be6 30.Rd1 Kc6 31.Kf3 Bf7 32.Rg1 g6 33.Kf4 Kd5 34.b3 Be8 35.e4+ Ke6 36.Rd1 Bf7 37.Kg5
|Oct-28-18|| ||RKnight: Wow! An amazing attack. I didn't see 19 Nd5!, which is necessary, so I can't claim credit for solving it. But this is what a Saturday or Sunday game-of-the-day should be.|
|Oct-28-18|| ||Walter Glattke: Good puzzle from Matloc for me: 22.-Nxf8 #4: 23.Rd1+ Kc4 24.Rd4+ Kc5 25.Rh4 (g4.f4)+ Kd5 26.Qe5# how nice!!|
|Oct-28-18|| ||Walter Glattke: *26.Qe4# of course|
|Oct-28-18|| ||schachfuchs: <Walter Glattke>: I got the side line
25.Rd3+ Kc4 26.b3#|
|Oct-28-18|| ||scormus: I'm pleased I got 13 hxg6 Rxa1 14 gxf7+. Even though it was easy enough, it's not always I get even the first move on a Sunday.|
I wasn't sure what B's reply would be - I was rather expecting 14 ... Kxf7 (15 Qf3+ and 16 Qxa1) which seems to leave B with an inferior game. 14 .... Ke7 looked very risky and I didn't follow through on the line. The engine confirmed W would then have a winning advantage even with the best defense. Also confirmed 14 ... Kxf7 as B's best move but the puzzle is then not so interesting.
As already posted 22.... Qxe8 would have left B with a big disadvantage but at least a chance to fight on. 22 .... Ne5(?) sets up the mating sequence.
I suppose OTB a player has to decide whether to accept a inferior game or take a chance and hope to weather the storm, as B chose here.
Superb combination by Kotronius, according to the engine he picked all the right moves. 19 Nd5! was perhaps key, it threatens mate and hence forces the BK into the centre. A really good, challenging puzzle.
|Oct-28-18|| ||Marmot PFL: <14...Kxf7, 15. Qf3+ Nf6 [or Qf6], 16. Qxh1 is nearly equal. at least, it doesn't seem worse than retreating the K to d5.>|
Don't see a win there either. Black defended badly here I think.
|Oct-28-18|| ||scormus: <Black defended badly here I think.> Agreed! I guess a case of "it wouldn't be the story" after ... Kxf7 ;)|
|Oct-28-18|| ||agb2002: White has Nxe6, hxg6, Qf3, Qg4, Rh3, etc.
A quick scan finds lines like 13.Nxe6 fxe6 14.Qg4 Qf6 15.Bg5 Qf7 16.hxg6 + -, or 13.hxg6 Rxh1 14.gxf7+ Ke7 15.Qg4 Nc5 16.Bg5+, etc. However, Black has alternatives.
I don't know. I'd probably try 13.Rh3, threatening to win a pawn.
|Oct-28-18|| ||whiteshark: Position after <18.Ne6+>: |
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Black to move
1) +2.64 (34 ply) 18...Kb8 19.Nxf8 Nxf8 20.Bxb6 Rh6 21.Bd8 Ka7 22.Bg5 Re6 23.Qxc8 Rxc8 24.Bh3 Rg6 25.Bxc8 Rxg5 26.Bh3 Rg6 27.Rd1 Rf6 28.Ke2 Bc6 29.Bc8 Rxf7 30.Rxd6 Rf6 31.Rxf6 gxf6 32.Nd5 Bd7 33.Bxd7 Nxd7 34.f4 Kb7 35.f5 Kc6 36.Ke3 Kd6 37.Kf4 a5 38.b3
2) +5.65 (33 ply) 18...Kc6 19.Nd5 Rxf1+ 20.Kxf1 Nxd5 21.exd5+ Kxd5 22.Nc7+ Kc6 23.Nxa8 Qxa8 24.c4 Kc7 25.cxb5 axb5 26.Rc1+ Nc5 27.b4 Bc6 28.Qxa8 Bxa8 29.bxc5 Bd5 30.cxd6+ Kxd6 31.Rc8 Be7 32.f8=Q Bxf8 33.Rxf8 Be4 34.Rf7 g6 35.Ke2 Kd5 36.f3 Bf5 37.Rc7 Be6 38.Kf2 Kd6 39.Rb7 Bd7 40.Rb6+ Bc6 41.Kg3 Kc7 42.Kg4 b4 43.axb4
6.0 minute analysis by Stockfish 9 v010218
|Oct-28-18|| ||jffun1958: The final position is 2-mate: 25...Kg5 26.Qe7+ Kh5(h6) 27.Rh4#|
|Oct-28-18|| ||Walter Glattke: 13.Nxe6 fxe6 14.Qg4 Ne5!! Refutation, Ne5 Always strong.|
|Oct-28-18|| ||Breunor: Stock fish gives best as 14 ....K xf7 15 Qf3 ch Qf6 16 Q x h1 Na4 17 Nxa4 bxa4 18 O-O-O 1.57|
|Oct-29-18|| ||messachess: very nice.|
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