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Frank James Marshall vs Emanuel Lasker
"Can't Fool an Old Fooler" (game of the day Apr-01-2006)
Lasker - Marshall World Championship Match (1907), USA, rd 3, Jan-31
Queen's Gambit Declined: Lasker Defense (D53)  ·  0-1
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Aug-02-19
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  Sally Simpson: ***

Hi NM JRousselle,

Possibly, But Marshall attacked no matter what material he had left and could often cook up a sneaky surprise (see note after 29.exd4)

He met the Lasker Defence 10 times after this game.

Overall disastrous results - P.11 W.1 D.4 L.6. But 5 of those losse came from Lasker (2) and Capablanca (3) v these two at that time this is understandable.

Marshall's sole win did have the consolation of giving Capa one his shortest tournament losses. Marshall vs Capablanca, 1909

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Aug-02-19
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  KEG: Post VI

29... Ne4?

"This should let White escape with a draw. Correct is 29...g6 30. Qd3 Ne4 [lets White off the hook, 30...Qa3 is Black's best chance to play for a win here--KEG] 31. Rb3 [this gives away the game, 31. c4 is the only way for White to hold the position] f6 32. Nxg6 Kg7 [even better was 32...Rg7--KEG] (Tarrasch)

While there are some holes in Tarrasch's analysis, he did recognize that Lasker's 29...Ne4? was a mistake and that 29...g6 was much better. Moran also champions 29...g6 in his notes on the game.

In fact, the best way for Black to win here was 29...Qe6! leaving White without resource whether he trades Queens or not.

Contrary to NM JRousselle, it appears to me that Marshall fully understood the ramifications of the position after 29...Ne4 and played excellently until his blunders on moves 41 and 42. Had Marshall not gone hunting for a non-existent win on move 41, he likely would have held the game. But, as Sally Simpson aptly notes, Marshall almost always sought to attack whatever the position and whatever material remained on the board.

After 29...Ne4, the position was:


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30. Nxf7!

"!"--(Tarrasch)

31... RxN!

"!"--(Tarrasch)(Moran)

"Nothing daunted, Lasker makes a virtue of necessity. The sacrifice of the exchange at any rate gives him some attack; but against correct defense it should have yielded a draw at most." (Tarrasch)

31. QxR+ Rf8


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32. Qb7!

32. Qg4?? loses at once to 32...Rxf4 (after which White's Queen is lost to a discovered check wherever it moves) and 32. Qa6? loses to 32...Qxf4+ 33. Kg1 Q3+ 34. Kh1 Nf2+ 35. Kg1 [35. Kh2 Qf4+ 36. Kg1 Nxh3+ 37. gxN Qg3+ 38. Kh1 Qxh3+ 39. Kg1 Qg3+ 40. Kh1 Rf2 with mate to follow after a few spite checks by White] Nd3+.

Hard to believe on this open board, but Marshall's move was forced--anything else loses.

32... Qxf4+
33. Kg1!

Again forced. If 33. Kh1 White gets crushed after 33...Nf2+ 34. Kg1 Nxh3+ (Moran). If now 35. Kh1 (35. gxN Qe3+ 36. Kh1 Qxh3+ 37. Kg1 Qg3+ 38. Kh1 Qf3+ 39. Kh2 Qh5+ 40. Kg1 Qe4+ 42. Kg1 Rf3 43. Qb8+ Kh7 44. Qh2 Rxc3 45. RxR QxR+ 46. Kg2 Qb2+ 47. Kh1 QxR leaving Black three pawns up in the Queen and pawn ending) Nf2+ 36. Kg1 Ng4 37. Qxd5+ Kh7 38. Qh5 Qe3+ 39. Kh1 Rf4 40 Rf1 Nf2+ 41. Kh2 (41. RxN QxR is also hopeless for White) g6.

Marshall's sharp tactical prowess allowed him to avoid catastrophe on his last three moves.

The position after 33. Kg1! was:


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Lasker was the exchange down, but only he had winning chances at this point. As I will discuss in my next post on this game, in the above-diagrammed position, the best line for Lasker appears to have escaped notice until the fine analysis by Honza Cervenka on this site in 2009.

Aug-03-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  KEG: Post VII

In the diagrammed position with which I ended my last post, Lasker played:

33... Qe3+

As will be seen, after this Marshall had chances to hold the game. Yet this move--so far as I have been able to discover-- escaped any criticism until the excellent post on this site ten years ago by Honza Cervenka, who points out a likely win for Lasker with 33...Nxc3! If then 34. RxN (probably best), following Honza Cervenka's notes, then Qxd4+ 35. Kh1 QxR leaving Lasker a pawn ahead in the resulting Queen and Rook ending after 36. Qxa7 Qe3. Alternatively, if White plays the inferior 34. Kh1, then--again following Honza Cervenka's analysis--34...NxR 35. Qxd5+ Qf7 36. QxQ+ KxQ 37. RxN Ke6 38. Rc1 [38. a4 looks somewhat better, but this does not detract from Honza Cervenka's excellent analysis--KEG] Rf7 [38...Rf2 is probably even better] and Black is a big favorite to win the Rook and pawn ending.

Bravo <Honza Cervenka>

But Lasker's 33...Qe3+, though theoretically inferior to Honza Cervenka's 33... Nxc3, created practical problems for Marshall that--in the long run--he was unable to solve.

The position after 33...Qe3+ was:


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34. Kh2

Another careful defensive move by Marshall. 34. Kh1, as Wilson has shown, would have lost to 34...Nf2+ 35. Kh2 Qf4+ 36. g3 Qf5 (and if 36. Kg1 Black wins by 36...Nxh3+ 37. gxh3+ [37. Kh1 Nf2+ 38. Kg1 Ng4] Qf2+ 38. Kh1 Qf3+ 39. Kg1 Qg3+ 40. Kh1 Qxh3+ 41. Kg1 Rf5).

34... Qg3+

Even better was 34...Qf4+ 35. Kg1 Nxc3 36. RxN Qxd4+ 37. Kh2 QxR leaving Black a pawn up in the Queen and Rook ending (after White captured either the Black a-pawn or the Black d-pawn.

35. Kg1 Nd2
36. Qxd5+


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36... Kh8

36...Kh7 was probably better, but a win for Black is difficult on either move.

37. Kh1 Nf3!


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Lasker continued to find ways to make life difficult for Marshall. After 37...NxR 38. RxN Qxc3 A draw was likely.

38. gxN

What else?

38... Qxh3+
39. Kg1 Qg3+
40. Kh1 Rf4


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Lasker was down a Rook, but he had Marshall in a mating net. Marshall should surely have played to draw here. But this was not Marshall's style, and it was beginning in this position that--in trying too hard to win--he blundered away the game with two terrible mistakes.

Aug-03-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  KEG: Post VIII

41. Qd8+?

"By this and the following move Marshall evidently hoped not merely to save the game but even to win it. [The text is] a grievous error. His only chance was 41. Qh5 whereupon Black has nothing better than forcing the draw by 41...Rh4+." (Tarrasch)

"Marshall had a chance to trade his Queen for the Rook with 41. Qh5. [The] Computer thinks the position [then] is dead drawn." (Volcach on this site in 2015).

"An easy draw is 41. Qh5 Rh4+." (Calli on this site).

As the above comments reflect, Marshall could almost certainly have saved the game by trading Queen for Rook. The resulting Queen versus two Rooks looks like a draw.

Remarkably, however, even after Marshall's 41. Qd8+, he could probably have saved the game.

41... Kh7


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42. Rf1?

"?"--(Tarrasch)

"??" (Cali)(Soltis)(Moran)

This was indeed a blunder, but what should Marshall have played.

"42. Rc2 must be played." (Tarrasch)

"A blunder which loses at once. After 42. Rc2! winning would have been by no means an easy matter." (Moran)

In fact, 42. Rc2 was also a losing blunder. Lasker would then have won with 42...Qxf3+ [not Tarrasch's 42...Rh4+ which allows White to draw with 43. QxR] 43. Rg2 Qe4 44. Rc1 Rf2 45. Rcg1 Rf5 46. Ra1 Rh5+ 47. Kg1 Qe3+ 48. Rf2 [48. Kf1 Rh1+ and mate next move] Rg5+ 49. QxR QxQ+ 50. Kf1 e3 51. Rd3 Qh3+ 52. Ke2 Qxc3 or 43. Kh2 Qh5+ 44. Kg1 Qg6+ (this brutal fork only works because the Rook is on c2).

As suggested by my last note to 42. Rc2?, the best--and probably only--way to save the game for Marshall was 42. Rb2! Then, after 42...Qxf3+ 43. Rg2 Marshall would have had a decent chance to survive: 43...Qe4 44. Rcc2 [now this Rook is not hanging] Rh4+ 45. QxR QxQ+ 46. Kg1.

But after Marshall's awful 42. Rf1?, he was polished off with dispatch by Lasker:


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42... Rf5!

"!"--(Moran)


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43. Qe8

Marshall could have delayed mate by a few moves with 43. Rb5, but the outcome was now clear.

43... Qh4+


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"The Rook must mate next move." (Tarrasch)

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Aug-07-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  Sally Simpson: ***
Hi Keg,

These posts are wasted here. Have you ever thought about getting these into a magazine.

***

Aug-07-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  fredthebear: <KEG><Sally Simpson> KEG's skilled posts certainly are print worthy in other forums!

KEG covers each move, mentions better moves, then moves on without getting bogged down on something that was not played; it's a chess game story from start to finish reminiscent of Chernev and the player series published by Chess Digest. He's not put-off by an imperfect game as so many chess authors are. He understands the value of a well-placed diagram.

Chessgames.com is a good site to gain scrutiny from harsh commentators preying for mistakes. There are plenty of vultures circling here. Whatever the case may be, readers are fortunate to have your contributions. Thank you for your many posts!

Aug-08-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  Sally Simpson: ***

Hi Fred,

Agree, I think they deserves a wider audience, to catch it properly here you need to copy each post, paste it in Word doc, then play it out OTB.

It does have a Chernevian feel, which is no bad thing.

Keg's liberal use of diagrams helps but even so I fear a lot of these posts go unread and to be honest they are the best thing 'chess wise' on the site second only to the graft the Bio Bunch put in. (not forgetting Once's posts in POTD.)

***

Aug-08-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  fredthebear: I should have also mentioned the excellent game research for various perspectives. Quotes from others are a particular favorite of mine. KEG even includes commentary by other readers on this site! Past and present come together.

Unfortunately, I have no suggestions for increasing readership. That could be said of many classic chess books. The study of annotated games is crucial to chess improvement. (That being said, I use the computer for "speed training" variety instead of playing blitz, and then slow down at the table for OTB studies w/a book.)

Aug-08-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: I should like to note that I in am complete agreement with the praise bestowed on <KEG>'s yeomanlike efforts here at CG. Even when, or if, analytical errors turn up, that is part of life--the work put in can only improve the player in question. As we have seen here and elsewhere, even the very greatest player-analysts have made mistakes, contrary to a comment once made by Fischer.
Aug-08-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: I should like to note that I in am complete agreement with the praise bestowed on <KEG>'s yeomanlike efforts here at CG. Even when, or if, analytical errors turn up, that is part of life--the work put in can only improve the player in question. As we have seen here and elsewhere, even the very greatest player-analysts have made mistakes, contrary to a comment once made by Fischer.
Aug-09-19
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  Sally Simpson: ***

Hi perfidious:

It seems everyone likes his posts (you like so much you posted twice.)

The slight errors in analysis actually promote a healthy response and everyone joins in - which is what a chess forum should be all about.

Wish he would reply, I've laid some groundwork for a possible hard print outlet, now waiting to see if he up for it.

***

Aug-09-19
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  perfidious: <Geoff>, lol; if someone wants to report it aa a duplicate and get a deletion, no problem.
Aug-09-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  Sally Simpson: Hi perfidious:

Just leave it, it's a short, if Alyerkupp had done it then we delete it to save 69 meg of net space.

There is thought, will there ever be a day when the Internet will stop. Is there be a future moment just waiting to happen when it will be impossible to type any further because it is full up.

***

Aug-09-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  KEG: <Sally Simpson><fredthebear>perfidious> Sorry I have not responded but I am out west attending a ballet festival and mountain climbing in Red Rock Canyon (not much Internet service in the desert). I expect to be home next week and able to resume posting and responding.

Thank you all for your (too) generous comments. I had not given much thought to Sally Simpson's idea of putting posts into print. Posting my analysis on this site with many fabulous commentators allows me to get feedback and to get corrections which enhances my learning process. I will think seriously about Sally Simpson's idea once I get back to civilization.

Aug-09-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  KEG: <perfidious> I see I did not properly address my response to you in my last post. I am also always grateful for the specific comments and corrections I have gotten from you <Sally Simpson><fredthebear> and others. Since the posts stay on the site for years, I often get comments months or years after my posts. All of this is ever so helpful and much appreciated.
Aug-09-19
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  Sally Simpson: ***

Ballet and Mountaineering....? That's an odd mix.

Aug-12-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  KEG: <Sally Simpson> Actually, ballet is great training for (top-rope) mountain climbing. Even us guys need to be able to balance on one leg (or sometimes one toe) to dance ballet. This was very helpful on my recent climb, as was the core strength ballet requires.

Chess also overlaps. In my final climb yesterday, there were numerous choices on how to pull myself up the mountain. Looking ahead is a key. One route may look easiest, but it may lead to trouble two or three steps ahead.

In this era of the Internet, I was able to watch expert climbers tackle the climbs I intended to try and map out a strategy of how the hell I was going to pull my aging bones up the climb. But even then, in the middle of the climb, there are always surprises (a rock feels loose, a lizard appears, etc.). A bit like chess--we can prepare some openings, but even in the best of cases the unexpected presents itself and we need to adjust to the situation.

Aug-12-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  Sally Simpson: ***

Hi Keg,

I went to the ballet once, they should get taller girls, that lot had to dance on their tip-toes all night.

And I have never felt the need to climb a mountain or walk up a hill for a view. Good scenery to me is a well executed Kingside sac-attack.

If interested in getting into print go to https://www.redhotpawn.com/ join (it cost nothing and no software download) they have a private P.M. system. I'm greenpawn - (hence the green pawn here...I was also my alias when I wrote for fanzines in the 70's/80s.).

***

Aug-12-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  KEG: <Sally Simpson> I will look into your suggestion when I return home.

There are plenty of "tall" ballerinas these days. My favorite ballerina dances with a 6'6" partner, and is taller than 6'2" partners when she is on pointe.

As for scenery, I don't climb for the view (I'm not one for views anyway) but for the adventure of scaling a mountain or wall, which I find almost as exhilarating at a fine King-side attack.

Anyway...let's get back to chess. Sorry for the distraction. I only raised the topic to explain my tardy response to your inquiry.

Aug-13-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  fredthebear: Ah, the great outdoors! It's good for the soul/mental health. Sunshine, fresh air, and exercise can chase the blues away (and improve one's chess concentration, believe it or not).

FTB enjoys camping, hiking, trout fishing and other wildlife. Coming face-to-face w/a human on a mountain path gets your ticker pumping. FTB is afraid of heights, but he certainly enjoys caves and waterfalls.

The annual Pike's Peak chess tournament in downtown Manitou Springs, Colorado is this coming weekend. However, quality hotel reservations will be hard to come by at this point unless one is willing to pay top dollar. It's a trip best planned a year in advance. There is plenty to see and do in the area (the area is long-accustomed to heavy tourism).

http://www.coloradochess.com/newtou...

Such a well-rounded lifestyle is fascinating <KEG>. It's heartwarming to know that you are giving Father Time a good run for the money! I'm hoping that you'll be able to work something out with Sally to get your chess annotations published. Please keep us posted on this site.

Aug-13-19
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  Sally Simpson: ***

Hi Keg,

They use to climb the Flodden Wall which is right next to where I live.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...

They would put chalk marks on the wall to show the good hand holds.

One night me and my son got a ladder and put chalk marks near the top of the wall. Next day we watched these people falling off the wall and skinning their knees and hands trying to reach them.

***

Aug-14-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  KEG: <fredthebear>I agree about the benefits of a varied and balanced life.

Thank you for your encouragement.

Climbing and ballet festivals are fun, but I'm back home now and ready to get back to chess analysis (and to think about Sally Simpson's idea)

Aug-14-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  KEG: <Sally Simpson> Chalk marks can be helpful, but I especially enjoy confronting a mountain and trying to plan out a route by which I can make it to the top rather than relying on how others have addressed the problem.

In any case, and though I enjoyed my trip, I'm glad to be home and to chess analysis (and to considering your suggestion)

Aug-14-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  fredthebear: <Sally Simpson> Your quips crack me up, tip-toes and all!
Aug-21-19
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  KEG: <Sally Simpson> Thank you for your suggestions and for all your (too) kind comments about my posts.

I have looked at redhotpawn and thus far am a bit mystified. My computer skills are feeble, and perhaps I am missing something very obvious.

I will look into this further, but at least for now will continue to post here.

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