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| Shinermatt: <dovif> If 24.Qxg3, white avoids immediate mate, but ends up in a piece-down endgame. ie. 24...Ne2+ Kh1 25.Nxg3+ Kg1 26.Nxf1 gxh1, or 26...Ne2+ allows black to keep his extra piece. |
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| Jul-04-08 |
| Ryan Razo: Game of the Day.. again! Are there other games who landed GotD twice? |
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Jul-04-08
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| PinnedPiece: To all who buy into the line that Marshall was playing a patzer here; <A contemporary of Mikhail Chigorin he [Levitsky] was Russian Champion in 1911.> --player bio |
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Jul-04-08
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| GMNick: For the last few days the game of the day has presented us with some true classics. Its a shame we can't have games like this one 24/7! |
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Jul-04-08
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| whiteshark: A Queen's block on g3 can be found in Alekhine vs NN, 1911 |
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| Jul-04-08 |
| WickedPawn: 23... Qg3!!. One of the most amazing moves in the history of chess. |
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| Jul-04-08 |
| MrMelad: Happy 4th of July to all Americans, may freedom and democracy prevail. |
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| Jul-04-08 |
| OBIT: So you think this idea of dropping the queen on g3 or g6 in front of three unmoved pawns is unique? Not hardly... check out the following games in the database: First, this isn't even the only time Marshall dropped his queen in front of that pawn phalanx, since there is also
Marshall vs Allies, 1914. Admittedly, though, the queen sac in this one looks a little suspect. Those of you who think the Marshall-Levitsky game is marred by the fact that the queen sac does not actually force mate will undoubtedly prefer Rossolimo's finish in
Rossolimo vs P Reissmann, 1967. This time the move really does force mate. Also leading to a forced mate is this game from an Alekhine simul: Alekhine vs Supico, 1941. This one proves that Alekhine could do anything Marshall could do, except blindfolded and while playing other games simultaneously. The queen sac also appears in W Cohn vs G Marco, 1907. By the way, the loser is the same Marco who lost in Marshall's most famous swindle, Marshall vs G Marco, 1904 (already mentioned by <Whitehat>, above). It seems that even when Marco wasn't losing brilliant games to Marshall, he was losing to Marshall's legacy. From postal play, there is this nifty game: Wade vs E W Bennett, 1942 The last one I can find is A W Fox vs H E Bauer, 1901. The noteworthy feature of this game is that A W Fox became the subject of intense public suspicion after several brilliancies, all attributed to Mr Fox, appeared in "American Chess World". The editor of the magazine denied the claim by saying, “Some lively speculation has been indulged of late as to the authorship of those remarkable games attributed to a Mr Fox. Of itself the rumor that they are spurious is not wanting in virtue, for it shows us there are still those who believe their eyes. They pounce upon these delicacies as contraband having run the blockade of their most exalted notions. To be told, without any gilding of the pill, that you are the suspected author of certain charming conceits is, to put it mildly, an equivocal compliment. This is the writer’s position, however, and as he relishes a good joke, the intimations are forgiven. Information concerning Mr Fox can be had by inquiry at the Washington, DC Chess Club. When we take to depositing unicorn eggs on the chess fraternity, the scribes may expect a product not less amiable than estimable.” |
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| Jul-04-08 |
| zb2cr: Nice to see this game again. I note I had previously posted a suggestion that after
24. Qxg3, Ne2+; 25. Kh1, Nxg3+; 26. Kg1, Black should play 26. ... Rh6, threatening to go up by a whole Rook. A reply by <capablancakarpov> claims that 27. Re1 is the best reply. Reassessing, I think my original suggestion has merit, but is probably not the best. I now think that Black's best is 26. ... Rc3. White has to do something about his Rook, and his c2 Pawn is threatened. Two obvious tries to avoid the loss of a Pawn and keep from swapping down both lose a Pawn: a. 27. Ra5, a6 reinstates the threat on the c2 Pawn. b. 27. Re5, Rxc2; 28. Rxe6, Rxf2! taking advantage of the vulnerable back rank. So it looks as though White's best is to tamely swap Rooks with 27. Rxc3. c. 27. Rxc3, Nxc3. Now the White Rook is nailed to f1 and his a-Pawn is threatened. 28. a3, Rd8 threatening ... Rd2 and it seems White will not be able to avoid the loss of another Pawn. |
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| Jul-04-08 |
| jovack: epic win |
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| Jul-04-08 |
| DeltaHawk: damn. two rooks and a queen hammering down the king's defenses. |
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Jul-07-08
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| kevin86: Happy Fourth! Firewoeks and gold pieces are worthy celebratory ornaments for this one! |
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| Jul-13-08 |
| mty1637: Maravillosa jugada que es posible porque todas las piezas negras estan coordinaadas hacia el ataque del rey blanco..Muy bella jugada |
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Aug-22-08
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| sallom89: one of the best endings, Qg3 is beautiful. |
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Aug-22-08
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| Boomie: <zb2cr: Nice to see this game again. I note I had previously posted a suggestion that after 24. Qxg3, Ne2+; 25. Kh1, Nxg3+; 26. Kg1, Black should play 26. ... Rh6, threatening to go up by a whole Rook. A reply by <capablancakarpov> claims that 27. Re1 is the best reply.
Reassessing, I think my original suggestion has merit, but is probably not the best. I now think that Black's best is 26. ... Rc3.> 26...Rc3 isn't possible as the knight is on g3. But it is the right idea. 26...Ne2+ 27. Kh1 Rc3 is way good. |
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| Dec-26-08 |
| Lastwarrior: Qxg3 Ne2+ Kh1 Nxg3+ Kg1
Then what? Nxf1 or what? |
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Jan-06-09
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| sleepyirv: I have a suspicion White saw this coming. Why? Why else on earth would he continue on after 22...Rxh3? It's one thing just to lose any old game, but to be a victim of 24.Qg3!! Now that's something almost to be proud of. |
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| Jan-10-09 |
| WhiteRook48: 23. Rc5?? |
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| Jan-11-09 |
| amurph64: One of the best moves ever played, fischer or kasparov would have been proud of this one.
I first saw this game about 20 years ago as a "guess the next move" puzzle and there was not a chance in hell of me finding this, even after i saw the solution it took me ages to see how every variation only made matters worse for white. Top Class. |
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Mar-04-09
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| Albertan: According to Walter Korn, (who is best known for writing "Modern Chess Openings",and who personally witnessed this game), the gold coins scattered on the board after the game were "payoffs by Russians who had backed Levitsky with gold roubles,marks and Austrian crowns." Source:The Even More Complete Chess Addict" |
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| Mar-18-09 |
| WhiteRook48: whoa! |
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| Apr-18-09 |
| The Bloop: In Alekine's game (referenced by whiteshark), the f-pawn was pinned by the Bishop on c4, so the effect was not exactly the same as Marshall's move, although Alekhine had a great finish to that game as well. Alekhine vs NN, 1911 |
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| Apr-25-09 |
| jon01: This game is all about one move. 29. ...Qg3!!. |
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| Aug-14-09 |
| d4pawn: Qb4 or Qa3 (even Qb2) will win for black but they lack the aesthetic appeal and the forcing nature of Qg3. White has no choice but to trade Q's, else it's mate. The other moves have none of the drama. However, the move was not a real gamechanger nor was it the only winning move. For that, it doesn't rank among the top for me. Like some others here, I think Rxh3 was as good or better. |
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Aug-31-09
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| Pawn and Two: In "Marshall's Best Games of Chess", regarding 19.Rxd5, Marshall states, <"Regaining his pawn, but losing the game">. At move 20, Marshall correctly noted that if 20.Qe5, then 20...Nf3+ 21.gxf3 Rg6+, wins for Black. Andy Soltis in "Frank Marshall, United States Chess Champion", also noted that Black would win after 20.Qe5 Nf3+ 21.gxf3 Rg6+. However, neither Marshall or Soltis made any mention of White's best chance in this position, 20.Qe4!. Fritz indicates an approximately equal game after: (-.45) (22 ply) 20.Qe4 Rf4 21.Qe5 h6 22.f3 exd5 23.Qxe8+ Kh7, (-.30) (22) 24.Qd7 Qc5 25.Kh1 Qc6 26.Qe7 Qxc2 27.Qe5 Qe2 28.Re1 Qxe5 29.Rxe5 Nc6, (.00) (21 ply) 30.Rxd5. The position is also near equal after: (-.24) (22 ply) 24.Kh1 Qxc2 25.Qe5 Qe2 26.Re1 Qxe5 27.Rxe5 Kg6 28.Rxd5,(-.09) (22 ply), 28...Ne2. |
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