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|Mar-29-04|| ||unsound: I love that Marshall got to follow up all those pawn moves in the opening by moving the same piece twice. (Actually three times--rather effectively--and with another pawn push thrown in.) I would describe his play as undogmatic. |
|Apr-04-05|| ||InspiredByMorphy: Now thats a pawn storm! One of my favorite Marshall games yet. |
|Apr-04-05|| ||Kingdumb: I wonder how Marshall would fair today playing his unorthodox openings. Somehow I get the feeling not too well. I can't see him beating GK with this kind of play. |
|May-12-05|| ||Airlock: Few players fare well against Kasparov, but I think Marshall would do better than most, he was very strong tactically and could compete with GK in this area.|
|Feb-15-06|| ||MorphyMatt: Was 10... gxf4 forced?|
|Oct-24-06|| ||Phony Benoni: I met Rogosin at the 1983 U.S. Open in Pasadena, California. Jim Marfia and I were doing the tournament bulletins, and he graciously volunteered to track down scoresheets from the top boards which were not handed in.|
At first, I knew him only as "Hy". When his last name came to light, a bell went off in my head.
"Are you...?" I began.
He interrupted me with a smile. "Yes, I'm the Horrible Example."
|Mar-13-07|| ||jegbjerg: There is no need for 10...Ngxf4. Instead, 10...Nd4 must be the right move, and black does not lose material.|
|May-14-08|| ||Astardis: Amazing, but those pawn moves can't be correct, right?|
|May-14-08|| ||Andrew Chapman: <10...Nd4 must be the right move, and black does not lose material.>11.Bb2 looks good to me. If Nf5 then g4 etc. If Qb6 then Nc3, threatening Na4|
|May-14-08|| ||sallom89: <Astardis: Amazing, but those pawn moves can't be correct, right?>|
don't think it is in modern chess.
|May-14-08|| ||DeltaHawk: dude, that is massive peasant's revolt, dude|
|May-14-08|| ||Pianoplayer: Wow!!
|May-14-08|| ||BraveSirRobin: I think Nf6 was a mistake - and also @pawntificator - your proffered move 5...Ne5 doesn't really do much either as... 6.d4 followed by e5 - which results in the same position.|
I would be curious to see how this game would have differed had Black accepted the gambit and played 4...Nxb4
|May-14-08|| ||BraveSirRobin: 4...e5 seems like a good option also.
What do the chips say?
|May-14-08|| ||Magic Castle: The threat is Rd3. Hence, 26.... Rd8(best) 27. Rd8 Kd8 28. Ng5 and the Knight has to be sacrificed to prevent the pawn from queening. The bishop cannot move because of the threat 28. Rd3+ and a mating attack ensues.|
|May-14-08|| ||YoungEd: I think that 3. ...Nc6 actually starts off the troubles. If Black doesn't want to risk the real gambit by taking on a3, it would seem better to move the e-pawn instead, using the bishop rather than the knight to guard the pawn.|
|May-14-08|| ||sleepyirv: I'm more shocked by Black's rejection of opening dogma- stop messing with the knights!|
|May-14-08|| ||Billy Vaughan: This is the silliest game I have ever seen ;)|
|May-15-08|| ||kevin86: Sanity didn't arrive at this game until very late... White's first 14 moves were with pawns;black's first 13 were with pawns and knights. Black's only rook move was his last;the only queen move was to exchange them off the board.|
White finally won this managerie;it does not deserve a place in the Chess Hall of Fame.
|May-15-08|| ||patzer2: <AgentRgent: Black should say thanks for the pawn and play 4...Nxb4.> I agree. Also, I think Black can snatch the second pawn with 3...bxa3 and still come out OK by giving back the extra pawn at the right moment.|
After 10...Ngxf4?, Black is busted. Instead, 10...Nd4 offers reasonable counterplay.
|Jun-16-08|| ||Sem: Can't agree with kevin86. I grew up with the systematic opening teachings of Dr Max Euwe and this game makes a refreshing change.|
|Jun-27-08|| ||Resignation Trap: I just uploaded another game where White had advanced all his pawns to the fourth rank (or beyond) by move 14, and apparently from the same event! See S Bernstein vs E B Heal, 1940 .|
|Aug-04-08|| ||Sem: Thanks, Resignation Trap! As a teenager I saw the great Botwinnik live; he had come to my home town Groningen in Holland to commemorate the great tournament of 1946, the first after WW II. For that reason he played simultaneous with clock against a bunch of promising young players. One of them was Sybolt Noorda, who advanced his queen pawns against the grand old man, and got away with it (a draw).|
|Sep-29-11|| ||fetonzio: is that only pawn moves by white until move 14|
|Dec-17-11|| ||King Death: < YoungEd: I think that 3. ...Nc6 actually starts off the troubles...>|
A better line than 3...Nc6 was played in this miniature (make of it what you will):
K Shirazi vs J Peters, 1986.
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