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| Oct-12-09 | | hedgeh0g: <Personally, I wouldn't go anywhere near the black side of the Milner-Barry gambit if Tal had white.> Qft. |
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| Oct-12-09 | | chillowack: Back then, many players were probably not yet aware of the utter folly of pawn-grabbing against Tal. In this game, Nei does everything you *shouldn't* do vs. the Wizard of Riga--and thank goodness too, otherwise we'd have missed this gem. :) |
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| Nov-05-10 | | sevenseaman: The purpose of 17. f4 escapes me. The ultimate insulation that forecloses any pesky interference? |
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Nov-06-10
 | | Sastre: 17.f4 traps the Black bishop and threatens 18.Kxh2. |
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| Jun-14-11 | | vulcan20: @mrbiggs Actually, Nei's idea of ...Nf6, allowing the queen to take on g7, and then ...Rg8 is a good desperation try. 17. Qxg7?? Rg8 18. Qxf6 Bxg2#(!!) shows the nature of black's counterattack. It's easy to stop; even 19. Qxf6 should be good enough to win, but it's better than taking the path that loses the least material but still loses. |
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| Feb-17-14 | | MountainMatt: I just saw this game the other day (it is featured in Eric Schiller's "World Champion Openings") and I immediately thought, regarding the position at move 19, "this is Wednesday puzzle material!". I'm surprised it hasn't been tapped for that yet...just goes to show the wealth of great combinations that have been played over the years. |
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| Feb-17-14 | | PJs Studio: The finish is quite the mauling:
21...Kd7 22. Qf7+ Kd8 23. Qxg8+ Kd7 24. Qf7+ Kd8 25. Qf8+ Kd7 26. Be8+! Qxe8 27. Qd6+ Kc8 28. Qc7# |
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| Apr-22-20 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: In a blitz game I would have played 19 Qf6, with the plan 19 Qf6 Rxg2
20 Be4
Per the engine, that wins thumpingly.
But I did check for a flashier win, and found the game line accordingly. |
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Apr-22-20
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Already knew this game; quite a good attack but either 10...a6 or 11...Qb8 seem to refute the Milner-Barry. 11...Qd6? allowed the White Knight and Queen to take better squares. Incidentally, has CG started to revamp the website's code? Some of the pages look better than before, whilst others look a bit strange, and others require a reload to display properly. |
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| Apr-22-20 | | agb2002: White is one pawn down.
Black threatens Rxg7 and g2.
White can attack the black king with four pieces. This suggests 19.Rxe6+: A) 19... fxe6 20.Bg6+ Kd8 21.Qxf6+
A.1) 21... Kd7 22.Qf7+
A.1.a) 22... Kd8 23.Qxg8+ Kd(e)7 (23... Be8 24.Qxe8#) 24.Qf7+ Kd8 (24... Kc8 25.Qxe6+) 25.Nd4 wins decisive material. A.1.b) 22... Kc8 23.Qxe6+ Kd8 (23... Bd7 24.Qxg8+ Be8 25.Qxe8#) 24.Qxg8+ as above. A.2) 21... Kc8 22.Qxe6+ as in A.1.b.
B) 19... Kd8 20.Qxf6+
B.1) 20... Kc8 21.Rxc6+ bxc6 22.Qxc6+ Kd8 23.Bf5 Ke7 24.Bd2 wins (24... a5 25.Re1+ Kf8 26.Qxh6+ Rg7 27.Bc3). B.2) 20... Kd7 21.Qxf7+ Kd8 (21... Kc8 22.Rxc6+ bxc6 23.Bf5+ Kd8 24.Qd7#) 22.Qxg8+ Kd7 23.Qf7+ Kd8 24.Qe7+ Kc8 25. Rxc6+ and mate next. C) 19... Kd7 20.Qxf7+ Kc8 (20.... Kd8 21.Qxf6+ as above) 21.Rxc6+ and mate in two. |
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| Apr-22-20 | | Walter Glattke: Looking quite disastrous: 19.Rxe6+ fxe6 20.Bg6+ Kd8 21.Qxf6+ Kc8 22.Qxe6+ Bd7 23.Qxg8+ Be8 24.Qxe8# 19.-Kd7 20.Qxf7+ Kc8 21.Rxc6+ bxc6 22.Bf5+ Kd8 23.Qxf6+ Ke8 24.Qxc6+ Kf8 25.Qf6+ Ke8 26.Nd6+ Qxd6 27.QxQ several other possibilities. |
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Apr-22-20
 | | scormus: Tal. Then it must be a sac. Probably with check. Qxg8+ doesn't lead anywhere. So it's Rxe6+. The rest follows. w^5 |
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| Apr-22-20 | | Autoreparaturwerkbau: White. Nice mate in 3:
click for larger view |
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| Apr-22-20 | | AlicesKnight: Found it from here - but to see it ahead? |
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| Apr-22-20 | | TheaN: Haven't seen this Milner-Barry, but it involves the 'classical' e6 sac. After <19.Rxe6+> Black is down to sub-optimal variations. 19....Kd7 20.Qxf7+ Kc8 21.Rxc6+, 19....Kd8 20.Qxf6+ Kc8 21.Rxc6+, so that leaves <19....fxe6 20.Bg6+ Kd8 21.Qxf6+ +-> with 21....Kc8 22.Qxe6+ +- or 21....Kc7 22.Qf7+ +-. Typical Tal. |
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| Apr-22-20 | | saturn2: White sacrifies the rook and gets it back with interest.
19. Rxe6+ fxe6 20. Bg6+ Kd8 (Kc8 22. Qxe6+ Bd7 2-
3. Qxg8) 21. Qxf6+ Kd7 22. Qf7+ Kc8 23 Qxg8 |
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| Apr-22-20 | | seneca16: Tal sacrificed two pawns in the opening against an opponent whose position looked reasonably sound. Zounds! |
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| Apr-22-20 | | zb2cr: Missed this one ... found the initial Rook sac, but did not find the follow-up correctly. |
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Apr-22-20
 | | Jimfromprovidence: A good side puzzle is after 18...Ke7 instead of the text 18...Rg8.
click for larger view See if 19 Rxe6+ still works and if so if there is an even better move for white. |
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| Apr-22-20 | | Brenin: <Jimfromprovidence> After 18 ... Ke7, how about 19 Bd2, with 20 Bb4+ or 20 Rxe6+ Kxe6 21 Re1+ to follow? |
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Apr-22-20
| | Jimfromprovidence: <brenin> <After 18 ... Ke7, how about 19 Bd2, with 20 Bb4+ or 20 Rxe6+ Kxe6 21 Re1+ to follow?> 19 Bd2 looks good, threatening check while connecting the rooks. 20 Rxe6+ Kxe6 21 Re1+ to follow looks good if 19...a5, below. 
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| Apr-23-20 | | jffun1958: <PJs Studio> 's line is a forced 7-mate |
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Apr-23-20
 | | ferrabraz: After 18...Ke7 19. b3! is a killer. Not 19. Bd2 a5!, as pointed out by Jimfromprovidence |
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| Apr-23-20 | | Brenin: Thanks, <Jimfromprovidence> and <ferrabraz>. After 18 ... Ke7 19 Bd2 a5, 20 Rxe6+ leads to mate, as 20 ... Kxe6 is answered with 21 Re1+, and other replies for Black are no better. After 18... Ke7 19 b3, Qg8 more or less forces 20 Re6+, with a less immediate win since the R on a1 can't join in, and the threat of mate on g2 has to be considered if Qxf6 is ever played. |
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Apr-23-20
| | ferrabraz: Brenin: Just checked Stockfish and it seems blacks position is hopeless:
18...Ke7 19. Bd2 a5? (better is 19...Bf4 and give the house after 20. Bb4 Bd6) 20. Re6! and mate in 10; 19. b3 Qg8 20. Re6! and mate in 15. (20...Ke6 21.Bf5!! Kf5 22. Nd4 etc.) |
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sac: 19.Rxe6+