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| Jul-08-02 | | refutor: a stunning game. 16.Rb1 is something that i wouldn't want to face over the board |
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| Jul-09-02 | | mprchess: in my opinion (OPINION) that 6...b5 wasn't the best move Kramnik could have made. If 7.a4 bxa4 8.Qxa4 and regains the lost pawn, has better position, and the queen holds a dangerous post. If the bishop takes the c-pawn white could make the move d5. |
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| Jul-09-02 | | refutor: 6. ... b5!! is golden. it's the botvinnik system! why would white play 7.a4 when 7.e4 b5 8.e5 h6 9.Bh4 g5 10.Nxg5 hxg5 11.Bxg5 Nbd7 etc. wins a pawn for white? after 7.a4 bxa4 isn't the best 7. ... Qb6, 7. ... Bb4, 7. ... b4 and 7. ... Bb7 are all played but 7. ... bxa4 isn't. |
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| Jul-09-02 | | refutor: also, after 6.e4, 6. ... b5 is necessary because if not White can develop with tempo 7.Bxc4 and have a big advantage in the center |
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Jul-09-02
 | | Sneaky: refutor / mpr - I agree that b5 is the only the move that keeps up with the pace, so to speak. Black has sacrificed a lot, positionally: he's allowed White to play e4 establishing the mighty d4-e4 pawn duo. Meanwhile the uncomfortable move e5 looms overhead. To play passively from that position would spell doom, so instead he grabs up space, and a pawn, with b5. It's one of those rare times when it pays to be greedy in the opening! However, mpr's idea of responding with 7. a4 is not bad! If you click on "explore this opening" you find that White wins an overwhelming number of those games. Maybe it's not the best theoretical continuation but it probably throws a lot of good players for a loop. After 7.a4 Black has some choices: 7...Bb7 is the most common, but it has had miserable over-the-board success. 7...Qb6 seems to be Black's most successful try, at least in the chessgames.com database. 7...bxa4 looks horrible for Black. That pawn mass on the queenside, which could otherwise be so dangerous, turns into a bunch of isolated stragglers. Yuck! |
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| Jul-11-02 | | Dirac: Hi, I know I must seem incredibly dense to you, but as a beginner, why is 16 Rb1 so awe inspiring? |
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| Jul-11-02 | | refutor: obviously you can't take the knight and i know it's theory but look at the position after 18.e7 the fact that that position can stem from 16.Rb1 *is* awe-inspiring to me and hey, i'm a beginner too...a long-term beginner, but a beginner nonetheless ;) |
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| Jul-10-04 | | square dance: <refutor> <...a long term beginner...> lol, i like that one, i think im going to borrow it sometime! it sounds a lot like me. ;-) |
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| Jul-10-04 | | tanginamo: Ivanchuk vs Shirov, Hoogovens 1996, Botvinnik Semi-Slav 1-0...a mind-boggling game! |
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| Jul-27-04 | | refutor: sickeningly, this exact game was copied at the American Junior Championship...i wonder if these two were friends [Event "JunCh-USA"]
[Site "Lindsborg USA"]
[Date "2004.07.23"]
[Round "6"]
[White "Benen, S."]
[Black "Fernandez, D."]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "D44"]
[WhiteElo "2323"]
[BlackElo "2317"]
[PlyCount "53"]
[EventDate "2004.07.20"]
[Source "Mark Crowther"]
[SourceDate "2004.07.26"]
1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. c4 c6 4. Nc3 e6 5. Bg5 dxc4 6. e4 b5 7. e5 h6 8. Bh4 g5
9. Nxg5 hxg5 10. Bxg5 Nbd7 11. exf6 Bb7 12. g3 c5 13. d5 Qb6 14. Bg2 O-O-O 15.
O-O b4 16. Rb1 Qa6 17. dxe6 Bxg2 18. e7 Bxf1 19. Qd5 Bxe7 20. fxe7 Bd3 21.
exd8=Q+ Rxd8 22. Ne4 Bxb1 23. Nd6+ Kc7 24. Bf4 Kb6 25. Nxc4+ Kb5 26. Nd6+ Kb6
27. Nc4+ 1/2-1/2 |
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| Sep-27-04 | | aw1988: I wonder why this is Topalov's most notable game? VIRTUALLY ALL BOTVINNIK SEMI SLAV'S ARE LIKE THIS! Sheer madness! I don't see why this one should be singled out (ok, I admit it's quite a pretty game nonetheless). |
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| Sep-27-04 | | TylerD: vote for Bush...
Irony? |
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| Sep-27-04 | | aw1988: TylerD, I regret putting that there, but I really can't think of anything else... I think it's about time I filled in my profile a bit more... |
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| Sep-27-04 | | aw1988: Ok, changed. I am sorry for involving politics, perhaps my input of background information was a little rash and rushed. |
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| Sep-27-04 | | TylerD: aw 1988: that´s OK.
We are all rushed and rash in places like this... |
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| Oct-05-04 | | mack: I'd like to thank <acirce> for bringing this game to my attention; I've ended up playing this line as white a few times - when I've dabbled in 1.d4 - and have got absolutely nothing out of it. |
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| Oct-08-04 | | aw1988: Heh, OK I admit it, it is quite pretty. |
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| Aug-24-05 | | deadparrot: i'm sorry for being so very very blind today, but what happens after 16. ...bxc3 17.bc Qa6 ? I do not see any actual threat against the black king, except that the b-file is opened for white's rooks. Please help and tell me which obvious move i am overlooking again :-) |
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| Aug-24-05 | | Reegan Milne: <deadparrot> my guess is the same thing will happen as in the game only white will have the threat of Q a8 leading to mate after 19 Qd5 |
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| Oct-18-05 | | Resignation Trap: 26. exd8=B+ Humor, ar, ar, ar. |
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| May-04-06 | | DP12: mack you can't just dabble with this baby you have got to work with it. |
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| May-05-06 | | whatthefat: <refutor: sickeningly, this exact game was copied at the American Junior Championship...>
That is truly putrid. |
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| May-05-06 | | DP12: Not this game I guess but another even longer game. Some Azmai-Shirov game. The interesting part about that is that in 2005 Van Wely played a novelty on move 27 of that game against Smeets that made the whole line unplayable, including this game I might add. |
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| Jun-20-06 | | refutor: <deadparrot> 16. ...bxc3? 17.bxc3 Qa6 18.Rxb7! Qxb7 19.dxe6  |
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| Sep-05-06 | | Marvol: I want lots of THIS stuff at the upcoming WCC.
Did you read that, Vesili and Vladi? LOTS OF THIS STUFF!! |
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