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Apr-28-07
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| al wazir: OK, let's say Bogart doesn't resign. He's a tough guy, not a quitter, you know? So he plays 22...Qxf4. Now if white plays 23. Qe7+, after 23...Kg6 he can capture the black  , 24. Qxd8. But then black gets a perpetual with 24...Qg3+ 25. Kf1 Qf3+, etc.Maybe white plays 23. hxg5+ instead. After 23...Qxh5 24. Qd7+ Kg6, the black is safe. So that doesn't work either. How about 23. Qh6+ then? No good; after 23...Kf7, all white can do is move the  back to h7. White's best strategy is to play 23. Re7, with a threat of mate next. Black gets a lot of checks, but eventually the white  hides behind the  . Conclusion: As recorded, it's not a win yet. But if white had played 22. Qh6+, he would have skewered the and won easily. |
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Apr-28-07
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| euripides: <22...Qxf4 23.Qe7+ Kg6> 24.h5+ Kh6 25.Qf6+ Kh7 26.Re7+ Kg8 27.Qg7 mate looks conclusive. Anyway, I guess Bogart decided to think for both of them. |
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Apr-28-07
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| al wazir: <euripides>: Thanks. Limbos was good enough to spurn the win of a for the prospect of checkmate, and Bogart was good enough to know he had lost. It just goes to show: the stronger the player, the earlier he resigns. |
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| May-24-08 |
| BISHOP TAL: I just watched A&E biography on Bogie he started the rat pack, he liked drinkin and his big passion was sailing. Not 1 word about chess I heard he drew reshevsky can anybody confirm that and is there a record of it. |
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May-24-08
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| Marmot PFL: <BISHOP TAL:> Judging from this game a draw with Sammy is hard to believe (unless he was a major Bogart fan). |
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| May-26-08 |
| BISHOP TAL: <marmot PFL:> I agree marmot, but chessgames says he did it in a simultanous exhibtion maybe he was a bogie fan lol,like to see more games by him. |
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May-26-08
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| Benzol: <BISHOP TAL> <Marmot PFL> Have you read my post of January 3rd 2008 on the Bogart thread? |
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| May-27-08 |
| BISHOP TAL: I have now tks Benzol. thats somthin ud think they would mention in a 45 biography. hollywood legend drew former united stated champion even if it was simulatanous. |
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Sep-14-09
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| RandomVisitor: "The fundamental things apply / As time goes by." |
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Sep-14-09
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| whiteshark: 13...Nf6 would have led to another game. Why do people sometimes place their pieces on the wing opposite to the 'action side'? |
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| Sep-14-09 |
| alayo: 14.Re7 1-0 |
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| Sep-14-09 |
| paavoh: <al wazir> <"...It just goes to show: the stronger the player, the earlier he resigns..."> Interesting advice, I should try this in the future. What do you suggest as a proper move number to tip one's King? Let's see if my improved performance will then compensate the rating loss from those early resignations - all this jokingly, of course... ;-) |
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Sep-14-09
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| whiteshark: <alayo: 14.Re7 1-0> Is that a direct response to my suggested <13...Nf6>? If so, <14...Bxe7> is my answer. :D |
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| Sep-14-09 |
| gus inn: The concluding h4 is a nice little and effective move. not a bad idea of Humpreys to toss in the white towel:) And to <whiteshark> yes -13Nb6 is a big mistake and likely an indication that H.B. never would become a gift to the world of chess. But Casablanca is pretty close to Capablanca. |
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Sep-14-09
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| Eisenheim: Actors - is there anything they can't do?!? |
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Sep-14-09
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| andymac: 22. ? is a good puzzle. Friday maybe (for the distraction of winning the Queen if nothing else)? |
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Sep-14-09
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| RandomVisitor: 3 minutes per move:
Paul Limbos - Humphrey Bogart [C01]
Africa Africa, 1951
[Rybka 3 ]
1.e4 e6
2.d4 d5
3.exd5 exd5
4.Nc3 Bb4
5.Bd3 Nf6
6.Nge2 0-0
7.0-0 c6
8.Bg5 last book move
8...Nbd7 0.32/17
9.Ng3= 0.01/18
[Rybka 3 : 9.a3 Bd6 10.Bf4 Qc7 11.Bxd6 Qxd6 12.Qd2 Re8 13.h3 Nb6 14.Rfe1 h6 15.Qf4 Qxf4 16.Nxf4 Bd7 17.Re5² 0.32/17 ] 9...Qc7² 0.67/17
[Rybka 3 : 9...h6 10.Bf4 Nb6 11.a3 Bxc3 12.bxc3 Nc4 13.Re1 Re8 14.a4 Rxe1+ 15.Qxe1 Be6 16.Rb1 b6 17.h3 Qe7 18.a5= 0.01/18 ] 10.Nh5= 0.08/19
[Rybka 3 : 10.Qf3 Ne8 11.Rfe1 Ndf6 12.h3 h6 13.Bd2 Be6 14.a3 Bd6 15.Na4 b6 16.Nc3 Rd8 17.Nce2² 0.67/17 ] 10...Nxh5 0.28/18
11.Qxh5 0.09/17 g6² 0.62/17
[Rybka 3 : 11...f5 12.Qh4 Nf6 13.f3 Bd6 14.Ne2 Qb6 15.b3 Bd7 16.Bf4 Bb4 17.Kh1 Rae8 18.Be5= 0.09/17 ] 12.Qh6= 0.13/17
[Rybka 3 : 12.Qh4 Nb6 13.Rae1 Bd7 14.f4 f5 15.Be7 Bxc3 16.bxc3 Rf7 17.Bf6 Qd6 18.Be5 Qe7 19.Qh6 Qf8 20.Qg5 Nc4 21.Bxc4 dxc4 22.Rf3² 0.62/17 ] 12...f5² 0.69/17
[Rybka 3 : 12...Qb6 13.a3 Bd6 14.Ne2 Re8 15.Rfe1 Bf8 16.Qh4 Bg7 17.Rab1 a5 18.b3 Nf8 19.c4 Ne6 20.c5= 0.13/17 ] 13.Rfe1= 0.00/16
[Rybka 3 : 13.Qh4 Nb6 14.Rfe1 Qf7 15.Be7 Bxc3 16.bxc3 Re8 17.a4 Be6 18.Bd6 Nc4 19.Bxc4 dxc4 20.f3 Qd7 21.Be5 Qe7 22.Qh6² 0.69/17 ] 13...Nb6± 0.74/15
[Rybka 3 : 13...Nf6 14.Qh4 Ne4 15.Bf4= 0.00/16 ]
14.Re2² 0.40/17
[Rybka 3 : 14.Bf4 Qf7 15.h4 Re8 16.h5 Bf8 17.Rxe8 Qxe8 18.Qg5 Be7 19.Qg3 Bd7 20.Re1 Qf7 21.Bd6 Bf6 22.Bc5 Re8± 0.74/15 ] 14...Bd7± 0.78/16
[Rybka 3 : 14...Qf7 15.Rae1 Bd7 16.a3 Bd6 17.Bf4 Bxf4 18.Qxf4 Rae8 19.a4 Rxe2 20.Rxe2 Nc4 21.Bxc4 dxc4 22.h3 Be6 23.Qe3 Bd7 24.Qe7 Re8² 0.40/17 ] 15.Be7 0.77/18 Bxe7?  3.12/20
[Rybka 3 : 15...Bd6 16.Bxf8 Bxf8 17.Qh4 Bg7 18.Ree1 f4 19.Ne2 Rf8 20.c3 Na4 21.Rab1 f3 22.Qg3 Qxg3 23.Nxg3 fxg2 24.Re7 Nb6 25.Kxg2 Bf6 26.Re2 Bh4 27.Rbe1 Kg7± 0.77/18 ] 16.Rxe7 3.12/20 Rf7 3.12/20
17.Rxf7 3.12/19 Kxf7 3.20/17
18.Qxh7+ 2.86/17 Kf6? 5.04/16
[Rybka 3 : 18...Kf8 19.Qxg6 Re8 20.Bxf5 Bxf5 21.Qxf5+ Qf7 22.Qxf7+ Kxf7 23.b3 Nc8 24.Kf1 Rh8 25.h3 2.86/17 ] 19.Re1 5.04/16 Qd6 5.04/16
20.g4 5.12/15 Rd8? #8/9
[Rybka 3 : 20...Re8 21.g5+ 5.12/15 ]
21.f4 #8/9 g5 #12/8
22.h4 #12/8 1-0 |
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Sep-14-09
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| kevin86: Not an Oscar-winning performance by the loser. A result that would make me roll my steel balls-lol |
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| Sep-14-09 |
| kingfu: If Bogart is in the credits, see it. Bogart would hustle chess for 25 cents a game in New York during the depression. For all scifi geeks (which seems to correlate with chess) , you should see The Return of Doctor X which stars Humphrey. Who is the Bogart of today? Answer: Nobody. Who could be named Humphrey in 2009 and NOT get beat up? |
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Sep-14-09
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| Anatoly21: Immediately looked over the game and thought to myself: "Man, this game is of terribly quality for a game of the day." Took me a second to realize these were just amateurs, and remarkably good ones considering their careers. |
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Sep-14-09
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| desiobu: Found an interesting detour to this opening with ...c6 in I Solonar vs A Madan, 2001. I think black traded queens too quickly there. |
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| Sep-14-09 |
| tivrfoa: hey folks, help me!
I can't find escape for black after 22. gxf5 |
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| Sep-14-09 |
| hellopolgar: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043265/ |
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| Sep-14-09 |
| Hoglet: Medad(w) v me(b)sept13/09
d4 d5
c4 c6
Nc3 Nf6
Nf3 dc
e4 Be6
g3 Nbd7
Bg2Rc8
e5 Nd5
Ne4f5
Ng5Qa5
Bd2c3
bc Bf7
c4Nc3
0-0Bc4
Qc2BR
BN Qd5
RB e6
Qf5 ef
Re1Qa2
Ne5Bd6
Nf7Qa3
Re3 0-0
d5 Nd5
BN cd
Be5Qc1
Kg2Rc2
BB QR
Kh3Rf2
e7 Rf7
Bc5d4
Bd4QB
Q+ Rf8
Qe6Kh8
Nf7Kg8
Nh6Kh8
Qg8 RQ
Nf7###
He's a bighead. |
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| Sep-14-09 |
| WhiteRook48: this is crazy |
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